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Dick wont be going anywhere he's a trusted companion of the promotion, he's keen about the club and lets be honest we'd babble on the mic every Saturday if the club weve always supported paid us to do so.

 

That being the case, and I'm not arguing with you (regrettably), then when there's insufficient income to continue one factor will be the 1973-style smutty, innuendo-ridden slightly bigoted presentation.

 

As for being "keen on the club" - who wouldn't be if they got paid to attend - and to quote an earlier post by someone else "passionate about speedway": it's easy to spot one at every track.

Anorak, bobble hat, multiple pens, notebook, reference book, you wouldn't want to stand by them, you wouldn't want to listen to them & you certainly wouldn't want to give them a microphone.

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Mr Barrie will love reading this,his ego will be suitably massaged.

 

It's OK.... According to the man himself he doesn't go on the Forums!!! (At least that is what he tells us in his prog notes, on more than one occasion).

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There's more than dick who take the meeting back to the 70's!

Personally I'd like to be known as a venue that's moved with the times as opposed to having the best pies in speedway! Cringe!

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With the music played over the Tannoy during meetings, it doesn't really matter if it is old 60/70's or current hit parade. In both cases it is going to turn someone off. It needs to be upbeat and appropriate to who is riding and the racing that night. At Newcastle, although I think there is too much old stuff for our meetings, Lawrence H has the knack of putting something appropriate on, especially when something unusual has taken place. Sometimes fans don't notice it, and miss the relevance of it and that includes me at times. The daughta's usually tell me after the meeting, so the change in music is noticed.

Even other sports like Ice Hockey have standard music for incidents on the ice, and it's often old stuff such as Blur and that is mid 90's.

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Personally I hate those added changes of songs to match / sum up an event ! Argh!

The music should represent the sport, imagine if f1 or motocross played the songs heard at Berwick, just wouldn't work, hence my opinion that it needs to be changed a bit. .

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It's OK.... According to the man himself he doesn't go on the Forums!!! (At least that is what he tells us in his prog notes, on more than one occasion).

 

Yeah right. ;)

 

While I agree that a modern presentation can add to a night at the speedway,its not the be all and end all for me,I mean Ive never walked away from Shielfield thinking wasnt Dick Barrie great tonight,or there was some great banging tunes tonight.Its all about the racing for me and that brings up the thorny subject of consistant track prep.Some see the subject as "sad" but put good riders on a good track and you invariably get a good meeting.Im even quite happy to put up with Barries witterings,and any music of choice if we get some cracking meetings,and as we have seen in the past it can be done.

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I do understand the main reason for going to watch speedway is actually to watch racing, however, people who are new to the sport will more than likely want more than just racing if there to come back, it needs to be an all round positive experience.

Furthermore I dunno if it's been discussed on here about nights last season when discounted prices, or kids go free, whatever it was, the track was absolutely shocking, slick, sparks flying on the bends! No grip for passing, in my opinion that track should of been in A1 condition to allow for spectacular racing, instead it ended up looking like the A1! This is not gonna make those newcomers come back!!!!!

Seems the basic's are being overlooked!

 

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I do understand the main reason for going to watch speedway is actually to watch racing, however, people who are new to the sport will more than likely want more than just racing if there to come back, it needs to be an all round positive experience.

Furthermore I dunno if it's been discussed on here about nights last season when discounted prices, or kids go free, whatever it was, the track was absolutely shocking, slick, sparks flying on the bends! No grip for passing, in my opinion that track should of been in A1 condition to allow for spectacular racing, instead it ended up looking like the A1! This is not gonna make those newcomers come back!!!!!

Seems the basic's are being overlooked!

 

Oh boy are you in trouble with the Bandit thread commando`s. :D

 

But you are right,we have spectacular meetings at Shielfield in the past,so its not like it cant be done.Last season our track crew were at the mercy of the weather at times,so you can forgive that,but I still maintain if the racing top notch then the crowds will come back.The promotion have taken a gamble in lowering the admission prices,hopefully that will attract a few back but if the tracks prepped well and the racing is good,theres bound to more missing fans to come back simply through word of mouth about the racing.

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With the music played over the Tannoy during meetings, it doesn't really matter if it is old 60/70's or current hit parade. In both cases it is going to turn someone off. It needs to be upbeat and appropriate to who is riding and the racing that night. At Newcastle, although I think there is too much old stuff for our meetings, Lawrence H has the knack of putting something appropriate on, especially when something unusual has taken place. Sometimes fans don't notice it, and miss the relevance of it and that includes me at times. The daughta's usually tell me after the meeting, so the change in music is noticed.

Even other sports like Ice Hockey have standard music for incidents on the ice, and it's often old stuff such as Blur and that is mid 90's.

 

I thought Rachel did the music at Brough these days? :unsure:

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With the music played over the Tannoy during meetings, it doesn't really matter if it is old 60/70's or current hit parade. In both cases it is going to turn someone off. It needs to be upbeat and appropriate to who is riding and the racing that night. At Newcastle, although I think there is too much old stuff for our meetings, Lawrence H has the knack of putting something appropriate on, especially when something unusual has taken place. Sometimes fans don't notice it, and miss the relevance of it and that includes me at times. The daughta's usually tell me after the meeting, so the change in music is noticed.

Even other sports like Ice Hockey have standard music for incidents on the ice, and it's often old stuff such as Blur and that is mid 90's.

I thoroughly agree Tsunami. Lawrence often drops some very witty wee tunes in, but I think it washes past many.

I'm not sure the music argument is that relevant as most PA systems are pretty ropey, and that is where there needs to be an improvement: if the fans are going there for the music...

 

I do understand the main reason for going to watch speedway is actually to watch racing, however, people who are new to the sport will more than likely want more than just racing if there to come back, it needs to be an all round positive experience.

Furthermore I dunno if it's been discussed on here about nights last season when discounted prices, or kids go free, whatever it was, the track was absolutely shocking, slick, sparks flying on the bends! No grip for passing, in my opinion that track should of been in A1 condition to allow for spectacular racing, instead it ended up looking like the A1! This is not gonna make those newcomers come back!!!!!

Seems the basic's are being overlooked!

Ermmm, Plymouth meeting on the Wednesday night. Was a cracker with plenty of muck.

Not entirely disagreeing with you, just balancing up the point, a bit.

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I do understand the main reason for going to watch speedway is actually to watch racing, however, people who are new to the sport will more than likely want more than just racing if there to come back, it needs to be an all round positive experience.

Furthermore I dunno if it's been discussed on here about nights last season when discounted prices, or kids go free, whatever it was, the track was absolutely shocking, slick, sparks flying on the bends! No grip for passing, in my opinion that track should of been in A1 condition to allow for spectacular racing, instead it ended up looking like the A1! This is not gonna make those newcomers come back!!!!!

Seems the basic's are being overlooked!

 

I do understand the main reason for going to watch speedway is actually to watch racing, however, people who are new to the sport will more than likely want more than just racing if there to come back, it needs to be an all round positive experience.

Furthermore I dunno if it's been discussed on here about nights last season when discounted prices, or kids go free, whatever it was, the track was absolutely shocking, slick, sparks flying on the bends! No grip for passing, in my opinion that track should of been in A1 condition to allow for spectacular racing, instead it ended up looking like the A1! This is not gonna make those newcomers come back!!!!!

Seems the basic's are being overlooked!

The saviour of Speedway has arrived !!!

Every track in the country, i an sure would love to speak to you as a person who knows everything about presentation and track preperation

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The saviour of Speedway has arrived !!!

Every track in the country, i an sure would love to speak to you as a person who knows everything about presentation and track preperation

 

Good grief,Teal puts up a perfectly good arguement and thats the best you can do in terms of a response.

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Aye I know everything about presentation - get a grip you sh*t stirrer!

Tell us more please, what are you credentials ?

Nobody is stirring anything, i have been a supporter of Speedway in Berwick since day one, through our first stint at Shielfield to Berrington Lough and back to Shielfield,including our nomadic time at Barrow, I have through all that time given my services free of charge in helping in just about every aspect of running Speedway. I have seen first hand what it takes to put the show on. It must be the most thankless task in the world bearing in mind the people that do it give up hours and hours of their private / family time voluntarilly only for people to slag them off.

We have at Berwick probably the friendliest and most pro active and most approachable owners / management in the sport, So instead of moaning on an internet forum about these things, go and speak to any one of them and tell them your concerns or better still offer your advice and help or just talk to them and ask why things are done in a certain way.

They,more than anyone want Speedway and especialy Bewick Speedway to be succesful and survive well into the future, or they would not be there now

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