bigeddiechek Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 But where the clowns,send in the clowns Dont bother they`re hear I'm sorry, I have refrained from posting on here for a bit, as it is more or less just the usual suspects. But the above post is just too funny not to take the time to commend it. Pure comedy gold Screm! I am assuming all the typos were intentional and for comedy effect... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackandgold Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not enough to satisfy the promotion, buould persuade a potential main sponser now they may not have to stump up as much cash I am just back from a stint abroad, so trying to catch up. I see no sponsorship yet, I am a bit bewildered as to what the mansgement at Berwick speedways understanding of sponsorship is . It does appear to me that they are in a loss situation and can only run if they get someone to bail them out in the form of a sponsorship deal. This is what I do for a living, the company I am employed with promote large companies and arrange sponsorship deals on their behalf. I will keep this simple. Tha basis of any deal is how much the company can gain financially, the accepted criteria is the return will be ten times the investment. In other words invest a million pound the return will be ten million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I am just back from a stint abroad, so trying to catch up. I see no sponsorship yet, I am a bit bewildered as to what the mansgement at Berwick speedways understanding of sponsorship is . It does appear to me that they are in a loss situation and can only run if they get someone to bail them out in the form of a sponsorship deal. This is what I do for a living, the company I am employed with promote large companies and arrange sponsorship deals on their behalf. I will keep this simple. Tha basis of any deal is how much the company can gain financially, the accepted criteria is the return will be ten times the investment. In other words invest a million pound the return will be ten million I am just back from a stint abroad, so trying to catch up. I see no sponsorship yet, I am a bit bewildered as to what the mansgement at Berwick speedways understanding of sponsorship is . It does appear to me that they are in a loss situation and can only run if they get someone to bail them out in the form of a sponsorship deal. This is what I do for a living, the company I am employed with promote large companies and arrange sponsorship deals on their behalf. I will keep this simple. Tha basis of any deal is how much the company can gain financially, the accepted criteria is the return will be ten times the investment. In other words invest a million pound the return will be ten million How many what you call "Large Companies " are involved in Speedway sponsership at club level though.Not many IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Tha basis of any deal is how much the company can gain financially, the accepted criteria is the return will be ten times the investment. In other words invest a million pound the return will be ten million That makes sense: I am curious, though. How is the return measured and quantified? How would you do that with speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Silence: so, Mr Clever Clogs was clearly talking mince. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Silence: so, Mr Clever Clogs was clearly talking mince. Horsemeat....maybe just hasn't seen your post....or has you on ignore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msc1874 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 pass me a cheese grater....... Intresting pr policy from Berwick's hq. Same holywood circus as per. Hopefully the riders have a belief in the clubs ambitions and where we are heading. A few confused fans mr anderson and co Can you not just be grateful that your promotion have found a way of securing the clubs financial future moving into 2013. You have a great promotion. I don't see what your actual issue is... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Can you not just be grateful that your promotion have found a way of securing the clubs financial future moving into 2013. You have a great promotion. I don't see what your actual issue is... Yes Everytime I check Berwick page it seems this person normally has a gripe about something? There can always be matters which people are unhappy on, that way of world but criticism must surely be constructive not as per Robin H mostly destructive it appears? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Horsemeat....maybe just hasn't seen your post....or has you on ignore Both are possible, I think it is a case of keyboard commando though. The "facts" he does give are wrong for a start. Yes Everytime I check Berwick page it seems this person normally has a gripe about something? There can always be matters which people are unhappy on, that way of world but criticism must surely be constructive not as per Robin H mostly destructive it appears? Sadly so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 pass me a cheese grater....... Intresting pr policy from Berwick's hq. Same holywood circus as per. Hopefully the riders have a belief in the clubs ambitions and where we are heading. A few confused fans mr anderson and co Can you expand on, or even translate the above comment into something that resembles a modicum of common sense please ? Well, I got the reply I expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Well, I got the reply I expected. I'm more than willing to debate Speedway related matters. My posts over the close season have been positive because of the team, then again the usual internet biffs only highlight negatives. Berwick's team looks very good and hope people come out and support it because if they don't (if our pr's are a 100% accurate) i see the clubs future being rather bleak. This team has the capability to make it a successful season along with the big meetings. Too much attention on the promotion for my liking Just my view! Edited January 19, 2013 by RobinH88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Bandit's new sponsors announced: Berwick Psychiatrists. The company announced at the launch today they felt, just on this forum alone, there was a significant new business opportunity. In particular they are keen to target the Bandit pessimists on BSF. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Bandit's new sponsors announced: Berwick Psychiatrists. The company announced at the launch today they felt, just on this forum alone, there was a significant new business opportunity. In particular they are keen to target the Bandit pessimists on BSF. That will do, if they can persaude everybody on this forum to attend Shielfield the place will be packed out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I am just back from a stint abroad, so trying to catch up. I see no sponsorship yet, I am a bit bewildered as to what the mansgement at Berwick speedways understanding of sponsorship is . It does appear to me that they are in a loss situation and can only run if they get someone to bail them out in the form of a sponsorship deal. This is what I do for a living, the company I am employed with promote large companies and arrange sponsorship deals on their behalf. I will keep this simple. Tha basis of any deal is how much the company can gain financially, the accepted criteria is the return will be ten times the investment. In other words invest a million pound the return will be ten million If the Berwick Promotion are going for a "gimme me the money" in their negotiations,then I fear they may end up empty handed.Any prospective sponsor will want to know what return they get for their sponsorship,exposure,publicity,etc,not to mention a return in terms of sales.To that end it would be interesting to know if any of our previous sponsors gained from their investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Potential and actual sales increases from sponsorship are economically not worth calculating accurately. The most tangible benefits to measure are business relationship orientated. Sales increases tend to be anecdotal based. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Have not posted on here for a while due to the negativity towards the promotion regards sponsorship dont people think once a major sponsor has been signed up it would be on the website.I spoke to Mr Anderson just into the new year and he mentioned associate sponsor ship while they were still in discussions with a view to getting a major sponsor.I for one believe they are trying their hardest during these testing times we should be pleased with the team and considering what was mentioned at the end of last season looking forward with great hope///// 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 If the Berwick Promotion are going for a "gimme me the money" in their negotiations,then I fear they may end up empty handed.Any prospective sponsor will want to know what return they get for their sponsorship,exposure,publicity,etc,not to mention a return in terms of sales.To that end it would be interesting to know if any of our previous sponsors gained from their investment. You really do them a disservice there. Have you seen their sponsorship pack? Of course they know that sponsorship is a two way process. In addition, everyone I know who supports the club - however big or small - get treated like royalty by the promotion. OK, the press releases pretty woeful - I'm afraid I have to admit that - but it doesn't mean that behind the scenes isn't thoroughly professional. It clearly is. The praise for the work that has been done at Berwick post-Waite era is all over the place to see: and from the highest places. Potential and actual sales increases from sponsorship are economically not worth calculating accurately. The most tangible benefits to measure are business relationship orientated. Sales increases tend to be anecdotal based. Exactly, anyone who is looking at sponsorship for increased revenue (apart from the Nikes of this world) is completely deluded. It has potential financial offsetting benefits, but really it is - like you say - all about building relationships and supporting an important part of the community. Have not posted on here for a while due to the negativity towards the promotion regards sponsorship dont people think once a major sponsor has been signed up it would be on the website.I spoke to Mr Anderson just into the new year and he mentioned associate sponsor ship while they were still in discussions with a view to getting a major sponsor.I for one believe they are trying their hardest during these testing times we should be pleased with the team and considering what was mentioned at the end of last season looking forward with great hope///// Getting sponsorship when the bottom lines of businesses is under fire is an almost impossible task. I would think it would need to be one of the big corporate businesses, and perhaps needs to be a bit less conventional than packages in previous days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Do you think one of the supermarkets would go for a sponsorship package whereby if you present your programme you get a discount off your bill? With 4 supermarkets in Berwick, it might be attractive to them, plus they would be able to directly measure the benefits of the deal. It would also save the punters a bit on their shopping bill, thus making a night at the speedway even more viable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) I'm more than willing to debate Speedway related matters. My posts over the close season have been positive because of the team, then again the usual internet biffs only highlight negatives. Berwick's team looks very good and hope people come out and support it because if they don't (if our pr's are a 100% accurate) i see the clubs future being rather bleak. This team has the capability to make it a successful season along with the big meetings. Too much attention on the promotion for my liking Just my view! Well said, nice to hear positive tones!! Well some at least. There is a Santa! Edited January 20, 2013 by Catch Me If You Can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 See fixtures out now? Couple nice Summer trips for Bandits, Ipswich then Scunthorpe early August and Leicester and Rye House Bank Holiday weekend. Shame Plymouth ride same night as Somerset or that could have been another on a Friday and Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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