bigeddiechek Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 It'll only work if the appropriate pockets are lined, but the UK isn't corrupt: is it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I believe the problem is, the Shielfield Park standards have to be improved to a new standard required by the relevent authorities, this would require a substantial sum of money being spent on an already out of date stadium. Hence taking what needs to be spent against possibility of grants, the idea of a new stadium. The revenue lost to Berwick Rangers from Berwick Bandits would be substantial compared to what they pay for their lease. What are the relevant authorities you are referring too. Council or Football or some others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I believe the problem is, the Shielfield Park standards have to be improved to a new standard required by the relevent authorities, this would require a substantial sum of money being spent on an already out of date stadium. Hence taking what needs to be spent against possibility of grants, the idea of a new stadium. Quite incredible, I have anothing but praise for Shielfield stadium and its facilities, as a regular visitor. It is worth wondering what needs updating, the stadium IMO is far from outdated or run down, and very comfortable to watch the racing from a seat in the main stand. You should see the sh!t hole I watch at each Sunday and the lack of facilities they get away with providing. Unless the costs to much to upgrade reason is a manufacture to publicly justify a sale? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 What are the relevant authorities you are referring too. Council or Football or some others. Scottish Football Association, their standards get higher every year for the lower division clubs, but on the plus side they do hand out hefty grants to help with ground improvements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedcider Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Berwick Ranger find themselves in a situation akin to one that many of us experience - when our cars get older, do we carry on spending money on them, or trade in for a newer one with the costs involved? "New" Shielfield Park is nearly 60 years old, and requires constant updates and improvements; is it time for Berwick Rangers to upgrade to a newer model? With the benefits of grants, and tax incentives to build rather than repair, it certainly looks tempting. The Chairman of Berwick Rangers is a successful businessman, and a great visionary. I believe if he wants a new stadium, he will have done his sums, and proceed accordingly - either to develop a new arena, or negotiate a better price for Shielfield Park, and improve it accordingly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) Scottish Football Association, their standards get higher every year for the lower division clubs, but on the plus side they do hand out hefty grants to help with ground improvements Scottish Football Association, their standards get higher every year for the lower division clubs, but on the plus side they do hand out hefty grants to help with ground improvements From what I have seen there are few clubs in the Scottish Football League in the Lower Divisions whose grounds that are a lot worse than Shielfield. Lower League football in in a worse state than Speedway cant see many changes to grounds and standard in the near future.IMO Berwick Ranger find themselves in a situation akin to one that many of us experience - when our cars get older, do we carry on spending money on them, or trade in for a newer one with the costs involved? "New" Shielfield Park is nearly 60 years old, and requires constant updates and improvements; is it time for Berwick Rangers to upgrade to a newer model? With the benefits of grants, and tax incentives to build rather than repair, it certainly looks tempting. The Chairman of Berwick Rangers is a successful businessman, and a great visionary. I believe if he wants a new stadium, he will have done his sums, and proceed accordingly - either to develop a new arena, or negotiate a better price for Shielfield Park, and improve it accordingly. A successful businessman would be an unsuccessful businessman very quickly if he invested in Scottish Football IMO Edited December 15, 2012 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthetiger Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think the sudden influx of revenue from Rangers and Celtic visits is burning a hole in Berwick Rangers' pockets. Instead of wisely investing for the rainy days to come, they feel they have to spend it! To suggest that Shielfield -- on of the cleanest and most-acceptable venues in the lower Scottish leagues -- requires expensive maintainence is a nonsense. Been to see Albion Rovers lately? Delusions of grandeur, I fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Berwick Ranger find themselves in a situation akin to one that many of us experience - when our cars get older, do we carry on spending money on them, or trade in for a newer one with the costs involved? "New" Shielfield Park is nearly 60 years old, and requires constant updates and improvements; is it time for Berwick Rangers to upgrade to a newer model? With the benefits of grants, and tax incentives to build rather than repair, it certainly looks tempting. The Chairman of Berwick Rangers is a successful businessman, and a great visionary. I believe if he wants a new stadium, he will have done his sums, and proceed accordingly - either to develop a new arena, or negotiate a better price for Shielfield Park, and improve it accordingly. That saves a lengthy reply, well said, it sums it up well. Quite incredible, I have anothing but praise for Shielfield stadium and its facilities, as a regular visitor. It is worth wondering what needs updating, the stadium IMO is far from outdated or run down, and very comfortable to watch the racing from a seat in the main stand. You should see the sh!t hole I watch at each Sunday and the lack of facilities they get away with providing. Unless the costs to much to upgrade reason is a manufacture to publicly justify a sale? Berwick Rangers do keep on top of the stadium, and are constantly upgrading within the constraints of their budget. The issue for Berwick Rangers is well stated by Tweedsider. Berwick Bandits are lucky to be able to have the use of this stadium, which for speedway gives higher standards than many speedway stadiums, we the fans of speedway benefit from our hosts, Berwick Rangers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) if worst comes to worst and the speedway club does have to move to a new stadium in the next 60 or 70 years, it would be an ideal chance to move the location further North closer to an area like Dunbar IMO. Edited December 16, 2012 by wjm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) if worst comes to worst and the speedway club does have to move to a new stadium in the next 60 or 70 years, it would be an ideal chance to move the location further North closer to an area like Dunbar IMO. Yes. The Dunbar Bandits does have a bit of a ring to it. Edited December 16, 2012 by Willowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted December 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think it will happen, may see the glory days return for club and fans alike. Would prefer a few new decent signings next month like but hey ho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Quite incredible, I have anothing but praise for Shielfield stadium and its facilities, as a regular visitor. It is worth wondering what needs updating, the stadium IMO is far from outdated or run down, and very comfortable to watch the racing from a seat in the main stand. You should see the sh!t hole I watch at each Sunday and the lack of facilities they get away with providing. Unless the costs to much to upgrade reason is a manufacture to publicly justify a sale? Absolutely , when you compare Shielfield Park to both Ashfield and the dump , Berwick fans watch their speedway in the Nou Camp . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairplay1 Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 if worst comes to worst and the speedway club does have to move to a new stadium in the next 60 or 70 years, it would be an ideal chance to move the location further North closer to an area like Dunbar IMO. Any particular reason why it should move to Dunbar are rather than stay in Berwick?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Any particular reason why it should move to Dunbar are rather than stay in Berwick?. It's sunnier!! I think the current suggestions regarding the Stadium are the least of Bandits worries . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Any particular reason why it should move to Dunbar are rather than stay in Berwick?. It would p*ss Taffy off. I said in half in jest. I can’t see the football team moving for a while personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 It would p*ss Taffy off. I said in half in jest. I can’t see the football team moving for a while personally. North Berwick Bandits sounds better anyway; stuff Dunbar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 North Berwick Bandits sounds better anyway; stuff Dunbar East Fortune market would be an ideal location for a speedway track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Eeehhhhhh, Sod off you lot, we'll just leave the Speedway in Berwick thank you very much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedcider Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Eeehhhhhh, Sod off you lot, we'll just leave the Speedway in Berwick thank you very much ������ Agree with you H, but must admit that only a small proportion of the crowd actually come from the town (and many of those are "interlopers"). Why? I don't know, and see it mirrored at the Football too, perhaps there are too many other distractions for local youngsters. I know it isn't "cool" to go to the Speedway. We do well to have a Speedway team in Berwick, but like the Playhouse, local shops, and many other things, we would rather moan about them, than use them - and then complain when they have gone. Historically, I seem to remember the idea of a move to the central Borders being mooted in the past. Apathy will win the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) I think the sudden influx of revenue from Rangers and Celtic visits is burning a hole in Berwick Rangers' pockets. Instead of wisely investing for the rainy days to come, they feel they have to spend it! To suggest that Shielfield -- on of the cleanest and most-acceptable venues in the lower Scottish leagues -- requires expensive maintainence is a nonsense. Been to see Albion Rovers lately? Delusions of grandeur, I fear. Going by others who have moved to new Stadia in Scotland, Dumbarton, East Fife and maybe others, dont think they will spend money on new ground as these days loads grants seem to be available. Also by installing these new state of the art all weather pitches loads of potential to hire out. In Scotland now and correct me if wrong, Stenhousemuir/East Stirling, Alloa, Montrose, Clyde and maybe Stirling have them? Think they will do ok.plus lot less pitch maintenance! Edited December 16, 2012 by Catch Me If You Can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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