billybikespeedway Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Agree,the promotion went to the BSPA conference and gave an intention of running,they have giving seven riders contracts and employment,they have announced season ticket and admission details,and who our opposition will be on our proposed opening night. Look what Happened At Newport Last Season, Ran the New Year Classic ,Signed The Team , Announced all addmission ETC ETC ,and then Pulled out 3 weeks before the Ist Fixture, Ihope Berwick Dont Go the same way it Knocked the stuffing out of Many Newport supporters Me included 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan 1991 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Surely to god theres a company or business in berwick or surrounding areas to back the bandits,i know times are hard but is'nt sport important enough in a small community to keep it afloat ? or does nobody care anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col 24 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The BSPA site today probably confirms what a few have thought for a while (and not just on this subject) its about time you shut yer pus. geeeeeeeee thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Agree,the promotion went to the BSPA conference and gave an intention of running,they have giving seven riders contracts and employment,they have announced season ticket and admission details,and who our opposition will be on our proposed opening night. Is this just a Peter Waite style scarestory i'm hearing , or is there really a financial crisis ? If the Bandits don't run what happens regarding the Benfund and the World Under 21 final ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Is this just a Peter Waite style scarestory i'm hearing , or is there really a financial crisis ? If the Bandits don't run what happens regarding the Benfund and the World Under 21 final ? not only that but you would have 7 riders looking elsewhere for a team place and at this time of the year there are not a lot going 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 not only that but you would have 7 riders looking elsewhere for a team place and at this time of the year there are not a lot going No , they would be stuffed . Which makes me feel it's a scare story . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 No , they would be stuffed . Which makes me feel it's a scare story . annoying thing is is that this has not been suddenly sprung on them, they knew last season that it was A J Scotts last season as team sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Is this just a Peter Waite style scarestory i'm hearing , or is there really a financial crisis ? If the Bandits don't run what happens regarding the Benfund and the World Under 21 final ? Moving these meetings is no real drama,most tracks will be ready to go come the beginning of of March and Im sure would only to willing to host them.Ive had PMs from people wanting hotel information in Berwick,people who are wanting to attend the Ben Fund meeting and stay over,its not likely they`ll be looking hotels where theres no 100% guarantee of seeing the meeting. Like Ive said for a while,there will be speedway at Shielfield with a sponsor Im sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 not only that but you would have 7 riders looking elsewhere for a team place and at this time of the year there are not a lot going Maybe Bellago would claim he's a Glasgow asset! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Maybe Bellago would claim he's a Glasgow asset! Bellego can sod off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I really cringe sometimes when the promotion put out some of there press releases. Are they so naive that they think that someone is going to rush forward and sponsor them if they threaten not to run, think that may well back fire. Don't know who is overseeing the press releases but there level of business understanding is limited to say the least. You will always find people who want to jump on a roller coaster as long as the driver is not a doom and gloom merchant. Come on Berwick you have put together a quality 1-7 promote them as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I really cringe sometimes when the promotion put out some of there press releases. Are they so naive that they think that someone is going to rush forward and sponsor them if they threaten not to run, think that may well back fire. Don't know who is overseeing the press releases but there level of business understanding is limited to say the least. You will always find people who want to jump on a roller coaster as long as the driver is not a doom and gloom merchant. Come on Berwick you have put together a quality 1-7 promote them as that. Exactly , we are all getting a bit fed up with continual sob stories from promotions . We had it at Glasgow , Edinburgh and Workington last year as well . It's like promotions are putting all the onus onto supporters and potential sponsors if things aren't going right . Getting beyond a joke now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I really cringe sometimes when the promotion put out some of there press releases. Are they so naive that they think that someone is going to rush forward and sponsor them if they threaten not to run, think that may well back fire. Don't know who is overseeing the press releases but there level of business understanding is limited to say the least. You will always find people who want to jump on a roller coaster as long as the driver is not a doom and gloom merchant. Come on Berwick you have put together a quality 1-7 promote them as that. Oh boy are you in trouble,the righteous crew will be along presently to show you the errors of your ways. Your right though. Exactly , we are all getting a bit fed up with continual sob stories from promotions . We had it at Glasgow , Edinburgh and Workington last year as well . It's like promotions are putting all the onus onto supporters and potential sponsors if things aren't going right . Getting beyond a joke now . Ive no doubt that the appeals to fans to fans towards the end of last season to help finding sponsorship were genuine enough,and it may be true they are still talking to sponsors and before any contracts are signed there will be no announcement,but are the promotions actions that of a club with any doubt about running.And as has previously said,Berwick have ran before without a sponsor,though in this day and age its far more advantages to have one than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Oh boy are you in trouble,the righteous crew will be along presently to show you the errors of your ways. Your right though. Ive no doubt that the appeals to fans to fans towards the end of last season to help finding sponsorship were genuine enough,and it may be true they are still talking to sponsors and before any contracts are signed there will be no announcement,but are the promotions actions that of a club with any doubt about running.And as has previously said,Berwick have ran before without a sponsor,though in this day and age its far more advantages to have one than not. Can they really afford to run without a sponsor though, having slashed admission prices they are going to have to get more people through the gates to get that money back, without a sponsor it will be doubly more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Can they really afford to run without a sponsor though, having slashed admission prices they are going to have to get more people through the gates to get that money back, without a sponsor it will be doubly more difficult. but they arnt going to get folk commiting to season tickets et al if they are unsure about running surely...they are digging their own grave. They've done many many good things but the PR is terrible sometimes imo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 but they arnt going to get folk commiting to season tickets et al if they are unsure about running surely...they are digging their own grave. They've done many many good things but the PR is terrible sometimes imo I think that they have done an incredible job, but like you say their PR at times does let them down. I just hope that they have not done things on a promise that has failed to materialize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I really cringe sometimes when the promotion put out some of there press releases. Are they so naive that they think that someone is going to rush forward and sponsor them if they threaten not to run, think that may well back fire. Don't know who is overseeing the press releases but there level of business understanding is limited to say the least. You will always find people who want to jump on a roller coaster as long as the driver is not a doom and gloom merchant. Come on Berwick you have put together a quality 1-7 promote them as that. I agree with all of that. Apart from everything else, what will the company or companies they're apparently talking to think of the desperate scouring for someone else to talk to? Maybe they'll come to the conclusion that they're not required & leave the Bandits to find someone else. By all means talk to others - but don't advertise it. The press releases have resembled a 12 year old's blog for years. At least Harry Potter isn't in the latest one. It does may you wonder how much media exposure the Bandits DON'T get as a result of such repeated garbage being sent to busy professionals who probably know how to set email filters, so they don't even need to press delete. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I think that they have done an incredible job, but like you say their PR at times does let them down. I just hope that they have not done things on a promise that has failed to materialize. Theres no doubt that that it would be virtually impossible to run speedway these days in the PL without a team sponsor,but I dont think it will come to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Same scenario as at Newport in our last few seasons. Ashworth, Smith, Aspegren, Bellego, Wethers, Edberg and Barrett looks a decent team that wont come cheap just as our 2012 named team of Gjedde, Lanham, Gathercole, Aspegren, Mellgren, Kurtz and Jones. As I have said before, you cannot write to the press begging for more people through the gate or sponsorship or threat with closure. I would be stunned if none of the other Bandits riders are making other arrangements now for team places or making inquiries, although theres not many spaces left. Aspegren in particular after his 2012 club shut down on the eve of the new season! I dont even recall Steve Mallett threatening to shut down in between signing the 1-7 and actually closing down... threatening to close once the side is all signed up leaving them with little options of a ride elsewhere IF the club shuts is very unprofessional. As Backless has said on here countless times, those Berwick press releases are absolutely awful... I know football is a much bigger sport than speedway but can you imagine a football press release being like some of Berwicks? I remember the signing of Bager was quoted as being the signing of the PL season, an international superstar being signed in Magosi, Swedens next big super Swede in Benny Johansson etc... not to mention that shocking one about Gjedde and the bonfire in 2011! Berwick have a decent-ish side lined up and now its signed, I think their best bet would be to get out and advertise, plaster posters all over the North East, try getting some tv coverage, offer decent deals for entrance fees (sure I read it has been done already, well done) and generally just promote the place and see how things are after a few meetings... they have the biggest meeting on the GB calender after the Cardiff GP in the ben fund, use this as a massive promotion for the Bandits too. It's not my money so really I am only posting my opinion BUT I think pulling out now is a silly move. Not only will it see seven riders without clubs but also it leave the promotion out of pocket (I dont believe they are entitled to get their £40,000 bond back once they've declared to ride in the next season but maybe wrong?) and will give the Andersons a bad name around Berwick like it has done to the Mallett's in Newport. Also what about the fans who have bought season tickets or paid sponsorship money, do they get that back? Berwick really should have learnt that getting the begging bowl out and pleading with fans and sponsors to the local press wont work. One thing I did wonder when Newport closed was would a meeting where riders raced for free of worked? I mean it could of been possible... fans turned up in numbers for the Air fence meetings in the EL where the riders raced for nothing whilst the fans paid normal prices to get in so the promotions could purchase the air fences. If it could be proved Berwick are in need of say, £10k to keep them afloat for the season, could something be done? May sound silly but worth a think although once one club does it I imagine every club will be looking for excuses to do it! That said, good luck to Berwick and I hope to see them see out the season at least. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I agree with all of that. Apart from everything else, what will the company or companies they're apparently talking to think of the desperate scouring for someone else to talk to? Maybe they'll come to the conclusion that they're not required & leave the Bandits to find someone else. By all means talk to others - but don't advertise it. The press releases have resembled a 12 year old's blog for years. At least Harry Potter isn't in the latest one. It does may you wonder how much media exposure the Bandits DON'T get as a result of such repeated garbage being sent to busy professionals who probably know how to set email filters, so they don't even need to press delete. They should just pull out and let the moaners go put their drivel against another team.Cant see them running without a sponsor mind, John Anderson has made it clear. Hope I am wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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