aljack Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yeah that's true, he had plenty of time, but judging by his comments he obviously didn't think so. I also wouldnt want to see him in a witches suit again, not unless with a proper number 1. Never say never as its often down to who fits with averages Have you ever thought that Doolans lack of form for the Witches might well have been down to the atmosphere at Ipswich. Now he is elsewhere his form has returned as he is now in a happy environment? To drop from an average of almost 9 down to a an average of near 7 at Ipswich that suggests theres something wrong at foxhall does it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Excellent point, well thought out and put forward with aplomb. Doolan is evidently revelling in the cosy friendly atmosphere that is all around Redcar these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Excellent point, well thought out and put forward with aplomb. Doolan is evidently revelling in the cosy friendly atmosphere that is all around Redcar these days. Thank you Im forever always the realist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Thank you Im forever always the realist You maybe, and of course your entitled to your opinion.....is there anything positive at all about Ipswich speedway in your opinion?? It can't all be doom and gloom surely?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 You maybe, and of course your entitled to your opinion.....is there anything positive at all about Ipswich speedway in your opinion?? It can't all be doom and gloom surely?? No its not all doom and gloom as the most positive thing about Ipswich speedway is that there is speedway....many do not have it do they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Have you ever thought that Doolans lack of form for the Witches might well have been down to the atmosphere at Ipswich. Now he is elsewhere his form has returned as he is now in a happy environment? To drop from an average of almost 9 down to a an average of near 7 at Ipswich that suggests theres something wrong at foxhall does it not? Maybe its got to do with (a) supporter(s) showing total disregard to the club and knocking it at every moment. Now he is free from the abuse he is free to score...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Have you ever thought that Doolans lack of form for the Witches might well have been down to the atmosphere at Ipswich. Now he is elsewhere his form has returned as he is now in a happy environment? To drop from an average of almost 9 down to a an average of near 7 at Ipswich that suggests theres something wrong at foxhall does it not? Should I go and find some of your quotes about Doolan from earlier this season? As 2BBH says, you might well be part of why he didn't like the atmosphere here if indeed that's the case, I know he reads the forums.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Should I go and find some of your quotes about Doolan from earlier this season? As 2BBH says, you might well be part of why he didn't like the atmosphere here if indeed that's the case, I know he reads the forums.... Ah now your your taking the mick...he's a bloody grown man, to suggest the above is bordering on ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Having noticed that since Doolan's departure Lanham's scores seem better..I wonder if there was some "bad chemistry" having both in the same team? Perhaps that Lanham is now the "lone older rider" he may feel more secure & takes a more "father figure" role?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travertine Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 ..............To drop from an average of almost 9 down to a an average of near 7 at Ipswich that suggests theres something wrong at foxhall does it not? Ever thought about not going yourself, you and your 25 mates, or however many it is? Would make a world of difference on race nights, not having to watch under a cloud of gloomy despondency in one corner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Ever thought about not going yourself, you and your 25 mates, or however many it is? Would make a world of difference on race nights, not having to watch under a cloud of gloomy despondency in one corner! It' these fans who are never happy, and almost revel in their clubs having low crowds, poor results, etc., that are the single most damaging factor to our sport. They are a real disease, hopefully not terminal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 It' these fans who are never happy, and almost revel in their clubs having low crowds, poor results, etc., that are the single most damaging factor to our sport. They are a real disease, hopefully not terminal. Not really Biged....if they are paying their money they are invaluable...and if they are paying their money they are entitled to twist their t!ts...not everyone has to tow the line and believe the hype and spin, but some don't have one decent word to say about their team...which I think is harsh really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Ever thought about not going yourself, you and your 25 mates, or however many it is? Would make a world of difference on race nights, not having to watch under a cloud of gloomy despondency in one corner! Dont think Chris Louis would agree with that suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Not really Biged....if they are paying their money they are invaluable...and if they are paying their money they are entitled to twist their t!ts...not everyone has to tow the line and believe the hype and spin, but some don't have one decent word to say about their team...which I think is harsh really. Can't argue with that, I have my gripes, but I put them directly to those in charge, not on here. This Promotion, as much as many - but probably more - listen to what the fans want. It is important that fans talk directly to their Promotion, and not come on here and bump their gums. It doesn't do anything other than harm. It is also cowardly, as the party being attacked have no means of defending themselves. Also, I know that the Berwick Promotion want to hear what fans want. If you give the fans what they want, then they will keep coming. The reasons I always try to be positive on here are: I remember how hard-up Berwick Speedway was when Peter had decided it was time to call it a day. The Waites and Andersons took over a tough sport in tough times. I doubt many have the financial, or business, wherewithal to do that. I know I don't. The facilities have been vastly improved. Most notable toilets and catering. The fans wanted a bar, it has been put in place. Hospitality has been greatly improved. Programme has been greatly improved. The 3rd bend area is now always well-kept, and has a decent fence to lean on (important for the more ample chap, like myself). I have brought several new faces this year, all have been personally welcomed by someone from the management team. The track surface is miles better than the ploughed-field days (just look at some old DVDs!). The once dangerous 2nd bend has been fixed. The lighting has been improved. New track shop. Rejuvenated supporters club. We are Fours Champions. Stages an FIM event. Did I mention we a Fours Champions? One of the unsung heroes, Dennis McCleary has been recognised and make a co-promoter. We've had some ambitious signings (not all have worked, and yes I know not all are assets): Alden, Ashworth, Kozza, Gjedde, Aspegren, Bellego). We've brought a number of new assets in (Edberg, Alden, Barrett, Bellego, Albin), sure I've missed some out there. We've had some really progressive ideas, especially the brave decision to drop admission to £10 for several meetings now. Very brave, and one that looks to have paid off handsomely. That alone, as a gesture, shows how much the Promotion value the supporters, and also realise that it is tough times for many. OK, we have had some ropey results, but we have been through 16 changes to the team through injury this season, and ended up pretty clear from the bottom. I support my team. That means not coming on here to air my gripes, because I can do that privately and with discretion. I actually don't really have any gripes, in general, I think it is an exceptionally well run club. Like I say, I support my team, and proud to say I am a Berwick supporter. Since this is a forum for discussion, I would welcome an opposite post to this with a list of what some of the less positive posters think could be improved. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Can't argue with that, I have my gripes, but I put them directly to those in charge, not on here. This Promotion, as much as many - but probably more - listen to what the fans want. It is important that fans talk directly to their Promotion, and not come on here and bump their gums. It doesn't do anything other than harm. It is also cowardly, as the party being attacked have no means of defending themselves. Also, I know that the Berwick Promotion want to hear what fans want. If you give the fans what they want, then they will keep coming. The reasons I always try to be positive on here are: I remember how hard-up Berwick Speedway was when Peter had decided it was time to call it a day. The Waites and Andersons took over a tough sport in tough times. I doubt many have the financial, or business, wherewithal to do that. I know I don't. The facilities have been vastly improved. Most notable toilets and catering. The fans wanted a bar, it has been put in place. Hospitality has been greatly improved. Programme has been greatly improved. The 3rd bend area is now always well-kept, and has a decent fence to lean on (important for the more ample chap, like myself). I have brought several new faces this year, all have been personally welcomed by someone from the management team. The track surface is miles better than the ploughed-field days (just look at some old DVDs!). The once dangerous 2nd bend has been fixed. The lighting has been improved. New track shop. Rejuvenated supporters club. We are Fours Champions. Stages an FIM event. Did I mention we a Fours Champions? One of the unsung heroes, Dennis McCleary has been recognised and make a co-promoter. We've had some ambitious signings (not all have worked, and yes I know not all are assets): Alden, Ashworth, Kozza, Gjedde, Aspegren, Bellego). We've brought a number of new assets in (Edberg, Alden, Barrett, Bellego, Albin), sure I've missed some out there. We've had some really progressive ideas, especially the brave decision to drop admission to £10 for several meetings now. Very brave, and one that looks to have paid off handsomely. That alone, as a gesture, shows how much the Promotion value the supporters, and also realise that it is tough times for many. OK, we have had some ropey results, but we have been through 16 changes to the team through injury this season, and ended up pretty clear from the bottom. I support my team. That means not coming on here to air my gripes, because I can do that privately and with discretion. I actually don't really have any gripes, in general, I think it is an exceptionally well run club. Like I say, I support my team, and proud to say I am a Berwick supporter. Since this is a forum for discussion, I would welcome an opposite post to this with a list of what some of the less positive posters think could be improved. Can't really argue with that, other than some people are only interested in what happens on the track.... Obviously I support Newcastle but I couldn't give a rats arse about anything as long as I see value for my money and I'm entertained....as a supporter yes it's nice to see the club doing well off the track, but that's not why I go to speedway, I don't go for the facility's, food or stadia....I go to watch speedway, if it's crap, i will say so, if it's good the same....remember without the fans there is nothing and some promotions arnt as welcoming and approachable as yours, you only have to read other threads to know that.I'm often at Berwick, personally I don't rate the pies but the burgers are ok....but that's not why I go....The track became one dimensional and entertainment was poor....that's what interests me and I suppose most....on the whole it's a good package, but the team and racing are far more important than promoters doing there job off track, to most paying punters. Obviously having speedway around is more important than any of the above and in Berwicks case on here it's normally only the on track stuff that takes a battering....no one in their right mind can deny what the Andersons have done for you's in a short space of time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Can't really argue with that, other than some people are only interested in what happens on the track.... Obviously I support Newcastle but I couldn't give a rats arse about anything as long as I see value for my money and I'm entertained....as a supporter yes it's nice to see the club doing well off the track, but that's not why I go to speedway, I don't go for the facility's, food or stadia....I go to watch speedway, if it's crap, i will say so, if it's good the same....remember without the fans there is nothing and some promotions arnt as welcoming and approachable as yours, you only have to read other threads to know that. I'm often at Berwick, personally I don't rate the pies but the burgers are ok....but that's not why I go....The track became one dimensional and entertainment was poor....that's what interests me and I suppose most....on the whole it's a good package, but the team and racing are far more important than promoters doing there job off track, to most paying punters. Obviously having speedway around is more important than any of the above and in Berwicks case on here it's normally only the on track stuff that takes a battering....no one in their right mind can deny what the Andersons have done for you's in a short space of time... Spot on. Having a brilliant set of toilets isnt going to help the lads on track. I go to watch a speedway team, the rest is irrelevant to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Spot on. Having a brilliant set of toilets isnt going to help the lads on track. I go to watch a speedway team, the rest is irrelevant to me. What have the toilets got to do with Berwick Bandits. they belong to Berwick Rangers and are maintained by them, as is the stadium and anything within it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pere Ubon Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Spot on. Having a brilliant set of toilets isnt going to help the lads on track. I go to watch a speedway team, the rest is irrelevant to me. But you're a fan, and like me will go come what may. The casual fan, however, is far more discerning, demanding comfort and value for money. I'm afraid that regardless of whether the racing is superb or not, casuals will not put up with squalid poor conditions / facilities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 What have the toilets got to do with Berwick Bandits. they belong to Berwick Rangers and are maintained by them, as is the stadium and anything within it. I didnt know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 but the team and racing are far more important than promoters doing there job off track, to most paying punters. You wouldn't believe that going by most posts on here! However, you are probably right, and most on here are probably wrong. Spot on. Having a brilliant set of toilets isnt going to help the lads on track. I go to watch a speedway team, the rest is irrelevant to me. Didn't say it was. Running a business is a sophisticated, multi-faceted, task, it was one of a long list. You clearly don't have the depth of thought to understand that. What have the toilets got to do with Berwick Bandits. they belong to Berwick Rangers and are maintained by them, as is the stadium and anything within it. Erm, do speedway fans bring their own portable latrines and commodes? The casual fan, however, is far more discerning, demanding comfort and value for money. I'm afraid that regardless of whether the racing is superb or not, casuals will not put up with squalid poor conditions / facilities. Exactly, the complete package has to be there. So many people have complained on here about stadia being dumps, and it is a fair point. There are a number of tracks I have visited reluctantly because they are just not nice environments. I think we are doing not bad at Berwick. What would I like to see change? If we could sneak a bit of the grass behind the goals to widen the track, I'd like to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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