msc1874 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Totally agree, to say Plymouth are as good as Somerset on the current signings and speculation at who will complete the Plymouth side is in my opinion crazy. Somerset should be top 4, Plymouth will be bottom 4 but that will do me given the last 2 seasons. This looks like the Plymouth side that fans deserve. A side that should deliver more cons Totally agree, to say Plymouth are as good as Somerset on the current signings and speculation at who will complete the Plymouth side is in my opinion crazy. Somerset should be top 4, Plymouth will be bottom 4 but that will do me given the last 2 seasons. This looks like the Plymouth side that fans deserve. A side that should deliver more consistency both home and away, and keep the team nearer the right end of the table. More to the point that its amazing that the club is now in safe hands with a safe more long term future. I think Proctor and Lemon give a decent top end and the rest seem solid, maybe not a championship winning side but foolish to tile any side out in December and I am delighted the devils are coming to tapes full stop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I see Todd is ment to be coming back to the Devils if his brother planning to come over would also make a good signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I see Todd is ment to be coming back to the Devils if his brother planning to come over would also make a good signing. Keep up. He's already announced as a signing for Somerset in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 2014 maybe but what about 2013? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 somerset have announced hes signing in 2014 alot can change before then especially with todd possibly becoming a devils asset ,as i said we could ruffle a few feathers in more ways than one keep looking over your shoulder somerset because the devils are on the up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) 2014 maybe but what about 2013? I don't think he can ride for anyone until late in 2013, because his birthday isn't until the end of the speedway season to qualify him to ride in the PL, so nothing is settled yet. Edited December 24, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) Keep up. He's already announced as a signing for Somerset in 2014. Announced maybe but he hasn't actually signed! I think your promotion may be left with egg on their faces! Edited December 24, 2012 by Mikeyt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Plymouth will be bottom 4 but that will do me given the last 2 seasons. Bit pessimistic, Mike. You're better than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan6870 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Didn't Lee say at the end of last season that he wanted Jake Anderson to stay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) Didn't Lee say at the end of last season that he wanted Jake Anderson to stay? Yes i can remember Lee saying that, it just makes me think why would you send a contract by mail to a rider living abroad, you would email them or fax them to them, i would think thats the way the four riders we already have had been done that way, when Lee said that the contracts have been sent out to the two remaining riders made me think they are British, i wouldn't post a contract to a rider living in America or Europe when i could email or fax it to him, it maybe the same postman Mike Bowden used. Edited December 24, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 birmingham wanted an unrealistic loan fee for jake so lee had to look at other options,the other rider also has an elite club with certain agreements if plymouth want to use him but lee is no mug and is trying to get the best deal for the devils,dont think we should judge anyone until we have seen them race give them a chance half a dozen meetings or so then make a judgement whoever the last two are i think we got a better team than last year,mikey bet£20 in ben fund we dont finish in bottom 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrossifan Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Good post Dave, coming from someone who has followed speedway for a while, the sign of a good team manager is one that when they have to make changes, and there will be changes, makes the right ones at the right time, good one Dave. Not very positive of you to assume your team won't work so will need changes ??? 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 birmingham wanted an unrealistic loan fee for jake so lee had to look at other options,the other rider also has an elite club with certain agreements if plymouth want to use him but lee is no mug and is trying to get the best deal for the devils,dont think we should judge anyone until we have seen them race give them a chance half a dozen meetings or so then make a judgement whoever the last two are i think we got a better team than last year,mikey bet£20 in ben fund we dont finish in bottom 4 The loan fee is fixed by the riders average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 did not know that mate so the higher the average obviuosly higher the fee,is this standard throughout the league?if so what is the fee for 3pt average opposed to a9pt average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 birmingham wanted an unrealistic loan fee for jake so lee had to look at other options,the other rider also has an elite club with certain agreements if plymouth want to use him but lee is no mug and is trying to get the best deal for the devils,dont think we should judge anyone until we have seen them race give them a chance half a dozen meetings or so then make a judgement whoever the last two are i think we got a better team than last year,mikey bet£20 in ben fund we dont finish in bottom 4 loan fees are set acordin to riders averag at least thats how it was in years gone by loan fees are set acordin to riders averag at least thats how it was in years gone by sorry didnt notice tsunami had allready said this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 done some research did not realise gino manzares was usa u21 national champion the lad must have something going for him well worth giving him a shot in premier league could be good on our tight circuit imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 done some research did not realise gino manzares was usa u21 national champion the lad must have something going for him well worth giving him a shot in premier league could be good on our tight circuit imo And who was 2nd? I could win a meeting if it consisted of Barbara who runs the corner shop, my mate Dave, a one armed man and a blind man. Wouldn't make me any good. He never seemed to beat anyone worthwhile when I saw him second halfing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Only saw Austin Novatril once but my God was I impressed. That was about 2 years ago now so I'm guessing he's 18 and come on a bit. I'd sign him on a 5 point average,. Would have to agree on Manzares, seen him a handful of times, 3 point PL rider only IMO. austen novratil finished 3rd if any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) Not very positive of you to assume your team won't work so will need changes ??? Where did i say the team won't work, i haven't assumed anything in my post, your the one doing the assuming, riders get injured and changes have to be made, your trying to put words in my mouth, i'm happy with the riders we have now, but you can't have followed speedway very long if you think teams won't be forced to make changes, Scunthorpe were forced to make changes last year, and they won it, and not because they wanted to, because David Howe got injured, i was saying that the sign of a good team manager is when changes have to be made, they make the right one's, not hard to understand is it, no mention that i'm not happy with the team we have, it's part on the sport, and how dangerous it is. Edited December 24, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 done some research did not realise gino manzares was usa u21 national champion the lad must have something going for him well worth giving him a shot in premier league could be good on our tight circuit imo And who was 2nd? I could win a meeting if it consisted of Barbara who runs the corner shop, my mate Dave, a one armed man and a blind man. Wouldn't make me any good. He never seemed to beat anyone worthwhile when I saw him second halfing. austen novratil finished 3rd if any help Austin finishing 3rd is the bare fact, what the research didnt say, was in the Final race Austin beat Manzares, also Austin fell whilst leading in 1 race, and it was total points scored overall who was the winner, however i will admit gino does seem to have improved, but he needs to, to be PL standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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