builderbob Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) can someone please tell me when the cut off date is Edited September 8, 2012 by builderbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 can someone please tell me when the cut off date is i dont think anybody really knows , i think it must be something to do with algebra or fractions or maybe russell grant knows in his stars or in the book of rocket science explained i think there is a section in which it explain's how you make such a simple sport into a complete and utter balls up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 BSPA site confirms that Scunthorpe have a play-off spot, so it must be before the Isle of Wight's next meeting (KL away) on the 19th. I still think it's the 16th, which means 1 meeting before the dead-line for Stoke and that's tonight, a draw is all they need but it is against Mildenhall. If they lose, what's the odds on their meeting with Rye House, at home, getting rushed in?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) It only says Scunthorpe Saints <NL> are into the play off spots, it does not confirm it 100%. http://www.speedwayg...hp?extend.17658 In another item it confirms Scunthorpe Scorpions <PL> have a guaranteed play off place, still i think all to ride for, any two of three to get the final play off spots, basically if Scunny win at Rye they are guaranteed a place, if the islanders get a win at KL then they may get a place, if stoke take a win it might be them, to many permutations, and i cant be bothered to work them all out. , and it does not help matters if the play off date is unknown. Lots of Heathens fans want us to take on Mildenhall 1st, myself because we have a 3 week lay off, i would go for an easier option, though its debatable if their is one. Edited September 8, 2012 by greyhoundp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 It only says Scunthorpe Saints <NL> are into the play off spots, it does not confirm it 100%. http://www.speedwayg...hp?extend.17658 In another item it confirms Scunthorpe Scorpions <PL> have a guaranteed play off place, still i think all to ride for, any two of three to get the final play off spots, basically if Scunny win at Rye they are guaranteed a place, if the islanders get a win at KL then they may get a place, if stoke take a win it might be them, to many permutations, and i cant be bothered to work them all out. , and it does not help matters if the play off date is unknown. Lots of Heathens fans want us to take on Mildenhall 1st, myself because we have a 3 week lay off, i would go for an easier option, though its debatable if their is one. Yes, you're right. It surely doesn't take much to put the date of the deadline on the table page of the BSPA site alongside the leaue scoring system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 The cut off date was agreed as the 16th September prior to the start of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 both the other leagues have put thers back due to so many call offs this year, surely the national league will do the same as the kings lynn iow fixture should have been over and done with, not the islanders fault this important fixture now falls outside the cutoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 If a home club cannot stage a meeting before the cut-off it should forfeit the points, particularly if the result could have affected the play off places. If the KL v IOW fixture does not go ahead IOW should be awarded the 4 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 If a home club cannot stage a meeting before the cut-off it should forfeit the points, particularly if the result could have affected the play off places. If the KL v IOW fixture does not go ahead IOW should be awarded the 4 points. Bit harsh on Lynn tho who have been hit very hard with rain offs and trying to run two teams is hard at the best of times,cant help but think league meeting should be all done first then fanny about with alot of other crap like KO cup after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Yes, it is harsh on any club that has legitimate reasons for not getting all the fixtures in. But it's potentially a lot more harsh on a club that misses out on a play-off place through no fault of their own. I'm not having a dig at KL particularly, it's just happens to be KL involved. In a case such as this KL have nothing to lose by not staging the fixture but it could cost IOW dearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Its situations like this that add to my fear for the future of the NL, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 The NL is viable in my opinion. There are a number of things in all the leagues that could do with being looked at but I hope we don't see any silly ideas or reactions to problems with fixtures this season. The 2012 season has been the wettest season speedway has ever known, to date, so fingers crossed it will be a long time 'til we see another like it. My point really was just that IOW, or any other club, should not be denied the chance to make the POs because another club cannot fit its fixtures in before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) The NL is viable in my opinion. There are a number of things in all the leagues that could do with being looked at but I hope we don't see any silly ideas or reactions to problems with fixtures this season. The 2012 season has been the wettest season speedway has ever known, to date, so fingers crossed it will be a long time 'til we see another like it. My point really was just that IOW, or any other club, should not be denied the chance to make the POs because another club cannot fit its fixtures in before the deadline. I dont think it is viable in its current state, im a fan of the play offs,its fair on the teams who will always have rider not present due to PL etc,but with fixtures again tight to get in,[was same last year] maybe the play offs should be scrapped??? top team wins in the NL,not great without the play offs i admitt but i this play off problem is now getting a bit regular I bet if you asked the promotions of Scunny,Lynn,Rye House and Buxton if the NL is viable,i bet you a pear drop they will say no,sadly,,,.... Edited September 10, 2012 by montie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 rain or no rain its only been 7 home meetings to get in !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) If a home club cannot stage a meeting before the cut-off it should forfeit the points, particularly if the result could have affected the play off places. If the KL v IOW fixture does not go ahead IOW should be awarded the 4 points. Don't forget the KL v Stoke or Rye v Stoke meetings...both of these have still to be run (Stoke have re-arranged their meeting at home to Rye for this Sunday) Edited September 11, 2012 by vog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Cut-off extended to the night of the 19th, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 It needs to be extended till sat after the raiders match v stoke to get a fair on track result to the potential qualifiers Please use some common sense Mr Morrish and stop the qualification for the play offs becoming a farce... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 It needs to be extended till sat after the raiders match v stoke to get a fair on track result to the potential qualifiers Please use some common sense Mr Morrish and stop the qualification for the play offs becoming a farce... Hang on, in that case it needs to be extended to next Wednesday so that Stoke can get their fixture against King's Lynn in. It's been moved once, if you move it again you move it so ALL fixtures get run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 You cannot just keep extending the deadline. As I've stated a couple of times it's my opinion that if a club cannot complete it's fixtures it has a 0-75 awarded against it. I believe this has been done in the past, but cannot recall a precise example. What I would be absolutely against is a club being fined. Things are tight enough without the fat cats squeezing clubs in what has been the wettest season in the sports history (in this country), or even for other legitimate reasons. If there were a repeat offender then perhaps further action should be taken. Off the top of my head something along the lines of KL (just as an example) are given an 'official' warning this season. If they fail to complete their fixtures by the deadline next season they start the following season on -5 league points. That provides motivation to move heaven and earth to get the fixtures in but does not directly impact a club financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Hang on, in that case it needs to be extended to next Wednesday so that Stoke can get their fixture against King's Lynn in. It's been moved once, if you move it again you move it so ALL fixtures get run. Stoke have already qualified... Exstending till sat would decide on track who deserved to go through out of I.O.W and Raiders It should have been the same CUT OFF date as the Premier League if some one sensible was running the league.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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