Leicester Vs Workington - 02/09/2012

[RedcarRacer]

Outstanding achievement by Leicester to be undefeated at home, even if you don't get 15 heats of entrainment every week - if you have a winning side, that will generally keep fans happy!

[ballroom]

You are spot on, I thought the crowd was the best I've seen down there for many a week........so much for the doom merchants(Robert72,Lionsden,etc).

 

 

 

Yes, Leicester is going from strenght to strenght. Looks like the Lions will acheive second place in only their second season back, fantastic progress. Well done to all concerned. What a great success story this is.

[racers and royals]

Yes, Leicester is going from strenght to strenght. Looks like the Lions will acheive second place in only their second season back, fantastic progress. Well done to all concerned. What a great success story this is.

More spin-Leicester have no chance of finishing 2nd.

[jackson2]

Well we won't finish bottom well done Lions keep it up

[bornagainlion]

Good meeting. Good win. Meeting ran in good time as the new shale seemed to mean less tractor driving. Magnus and Lewis were doing the business. I think the crowd were physically willing those performances out of them. Heat 2 with Lewis and Ashley was the best race i've seen at BP. Opponents manager failed to make the TR call rather than Leicester for once. I fear saying it but i took my rose tinted off and the crowd still looked to be a very, very, very good. Richard Lawson and Rene Bach were as good as ever at BP. Hate to tempt fate but my guess would be that everyones reasonably happy, no?

 

Mick.

 

I didn't make it to this and don't tend to post now though I do read and for Mick to say it was a good meeting is high praise indeed. He isn't one of the David Hemsley knockers or a rose tinter so kicking myself now. In general I don't think the meetings were any better or worse than the 2nd half of last season (if you ignore the awful first 3) and to go a league season unbeaten at home in only the 2nd one back is some going for anyone.

 

 

 

Shocked is the words that come to mind about last night.

 

How the hell did Leicester not take 3 points ??????????

 

Magnus was shocking i watched Long Eaton boys after the meeting turn the bike more then he did last night. If he is out of form we need to get rid because heading into play off's if we make them we can't carry anymore passengers in a side that we already have 3 reserves in.

 

What a delight it was to see Rob on the centre green again , Can anyone confirm if Rob has now been given the job ???

 

Chris Popple was there last night because i saw him but he was plain clothed & looked super pissed off. I wonder if he arrived at the track & was told they didn't want him to do the centre green. I was suprised to not hear him with the race results after heat 1. So Maybe he has been given the sack full stop.

 

Thank God Glyn stood by Magnus without his points yesterday we may not have been looking at being in meaningful playoffs with a loss and 2 aways to come a top 3 finish could have been 7th.

 

Good to hear the crowd was up too as I went the Midlands thing and got there late but could still pick a place on the fence or seat in the stands! Here's hoping a few people come out of the woodwork to jump on the playoff bandwagon (very Leicester sports fans )

 

Cheers

Warren

Edited September 3, 2012 by bornagainlion

[TMW]

You are spot on, I thought the crowd was the best I've seen down there for many a week........so much for the doom merchants(Robert72,Lionsden,etc).

 

I would say those you mention are still entitled to an opinion !!!!!!!!

[Skodaman]

I would say those you mention are still entitled to an opinion !!!!!!!!

 

I dont mind an honest opinion, its the repetition that gets my goat.

 

The meeting against Workington was not the best, other than Race 2 - Ashley v Lewis - but I felt that generally only three Comets were anything like competitive - all five race wins for Comets were by two riders!!

[Pinny]

People slate Leicesters promotion but look at the improvement in the club this season... Then look at Plymouths "progression" this season. The Lions deserve a lot of credit, espiecially with a side that, IMO, looks quite average!

[TMW]

Any sign of new found enviromental types doing any wildlife research in the bushes?

 

What a rib tickler

[wandersome]

People slate Leicesters promotion but look at the improvement in the club this season... Then look at Plymouths "progression" this season. The Lions deserve a lot of credit, espiecially with a side that, IMO, looks quite average!

 

and that not mentioning Newports!

 

talking of which, it was interesting to hear Gareth Rogers talking about the demolition of Newport on the centre green as i've not seen him take the bait on any newport threads so far. Whilst be interviewed about all things Newport he made the point of how the failed backing meant Steve Mallett had to pull the plug on a what looked like it would have been a championship winning squad this year. When asked about the demolition he seemed to put all the emphasis on the failed deal being the reason their isn't a stadium in Newport any more rather than Steve Mallett unwillingness to sell on to another promotion. He definately seemed sympathetic to the plight of the Malletts. That's how it came across to me anyways.

 

Mick.

Edited September 4, 2012 by volty

[LionsDen]

As I'm labelled a 'doom merchant' these days I'd just like to say here and now that I'm delighted to see the Leicester Lions went the whole league campaign unbeaten at home and are nailed on for the play-offs. A big achievement for a team that finished bottom last year and I wish them every success in the meetings to come.

 

Interesting reading the Star this week that both Debbie Hancock and Rob Godfrey said if their respective clubs ended up in the top two then Leicester would be their first pick of opponents. Godfrey in particular was a bit harsh saying that the Lions had benefited from being in the right place at the right time at Berwick and Rye House. Whatever, even if they are perceived as the weaker of the 6 teams who get through it still remains that the Lions have had a massive improvement on track this season and as Jason Attwood said at the start of the season, the top 6 was the aim - and they've done that so many congratulations to the team.

 

 

PS: Steady on Ballroom - they won't quite be top 2. And if you ask the right people you'll find out there is no "new found" environmental type. The person you're referring to has been one of those since before you were born (probably).

[ballroom]

As I'm labelled a 'doom merchant' these days I'd just like to say here and now that I'm delighted to see the Leicester Lions went the whole league campaign unbeaten at home and are nailed on for the play-offs. A big achievement for a team that finished bottom last year and I wish them every success in the meetings to come.

 

Interesting reading the Star this week that both Debbie Hancock and Rob Godfrey said if their respective clubs ended up in the top two then Leicester would be their first pick of opponents. Godfrey in particular was a bit harsh saying that the Lions had benefited from being in the right place at the right time at Berwick and Rye House. Whatever, even if they are perceived as the weaker of the 6 teams who get through it still remains that the Lions have had a massive improvement on track this season and as Jason Attwood said at the start of the season, the top 6 was the aim - and they've done that so many congratulations to the team.

 

 

PS: Steady on Ballroom - they won't quite be top 2. And if you ask the right people you'll find out there is no "new found" environmental type. The person you're referring to has been one of those since before you were born (probably).

 

So why did he not have those credentials when he was campaigning for the re-introduction of Leicester Speedway, which like it or not is a noisy and environmentally unfriendly sport? His recent recent actions has lost him any remaining sympathy.

[LionsDen]

So why did he not have those credentials when he was campaigning for the re-introduction of Leicester Speedway, which like it or not is a noisy and environmentally unfriendly sport? His recent recent actions has lost him any remaining sympathy.

 

 

Look, I've no idea who you are as you delight in arguing silly points from a position of anonymity but just so you know... he did. Which is one of the reasons why there was a wildlife conservation area (or 'Habitat Creation Zone' as it was described on the eventual plans) included in the site design.

 

Are you suggesting one can't live with the other then? If so, no-one else involved thought that. Not the promoter, not the campaigners and not the council. Also, the LSSC, at his bequest as chairman at the time, paid £900 for the ecology report as part of the planning application. I was on the committee at the time and well remember the passionate discussions about this element to the site, as well as handing over the cheque. Do a little research before making your points. And be assured, your sympathies are irrelevant.

 

Anyway, enough of all that. This is the thread to the Workington match and I have been sidetracked by factually incorrect comments from someone who can happily reveal a lack of knowledge, but not an identity. As such, I'm not going to discuss this anymore.

Edited September 4, 2012 by LionsDen

[Pinny]

The lack of deal with the stock cars may well be why the Malletts pulled out... But the reason why speedway is no longer in Newport is because the Malletts would not sell up to Phil Morris when he offered a price worth more than what they ended up getting at scrap value... This is a fact.

 

The squad the Malletts assembled this season would of been unstoppable imo... The two key members were Mellgren and Aspegren and look at their form for Rye and Berwick... Add a super reserve in Kurtz who has more or less held his average in the main body of a poor Plymouth team and we would of had a mega side.

 

Unfortunately it wasnt to be and the Club is no more although I heard rumors on the weekend that plots of land just outside Newport are being looked at and have the councils backing, how true this is i do not know lets just hope that, Peter Mole and Kevin Brown excepted, none of the previous promotors or managers are anything to do with it!!

[Pere Ubon]

The lack of deal with the stock cars may well be why the Malletts pulled out... But the reason why speedway is no longer in Newport is because the Malletts would not sell up to Phil Morris when he offered a price worth more than what they ended up getting at scrap value... This is a fact......

 

That may be true, but certainly the failure to attract sufficient numbers through the turnstiles was a more fundamental reason.

[Travertine]

The squad the Malletts assembled this season would of been unstoppable imo... The two key members were Mellgren and Aspegren and look at their form for Rye and Berwick... Add a super reserve in Kurtz who has more or less held his average in the main body of a poor Plymouth team and we would of had a mega side.

 

Who were the rest of the Newport side planned for this season, and how do their season's averages stack up at their new teams? Or did some them not ever find a ride in the end?

[ballroom]

Look, I've no idea who you are as you delight in arguing silly points from a position of anonymity but just so you know... he did. Which is one of the reasons why there was a wildlife conservation area (or 'Habitat Creation Zone' as it was described on the eventual plans) included in the site design.

 

Are you suggesting one can't live with the other then? If so, no-one else involved thought that. Not the promoter, not the campaigners and not the council. Also, the LSSC, at his bequest as chairman at the time, paid £900 for the ecology report as part of the planning application. I was on the committee at the time and well remember the passionate discussions about this element to the site, as well as handing over the cheque. Do a little research before making your points. And be assured, your sympathies are irrelevant.

 

Anyway, enough of all that. This is the thread to the Workington match and I have been sidetracked by factually incorrect comments from someone who can happily reveal a lack of knowledge, but not an identity. As such, I'm not going to discuss this anymore.

 

Some of the points you make are indeed correct and go back to the earliest stages of the project.

 

This does not alter the extreme disappointment many Lions felt, and I would imagine many fans of defunct tracks, when two people made written representations to the Council as to the continuing development of the rest of the site as part of their agenda to make problems for Leicester Speedway. Many fans are of course aware these people are no longer involved with the success of Leicester Speedway.

 

Due partly to the economic situation, happily the Council are sympathetic to the lack of current progress and so this clumsy attempt at undermining the whole project and the owner has failed.

[LionsDen]

Some of the points you make are indeed correct and go back to the earliest stages of the project.

 

This does not alter the extreme disappointment many Lions felt, and I would imagine many fans of defunct tracks, when two people made written representations to the Council as to the continuing development of the rest of the site as part of their agenda to make problems for Leicester Speedway. Many fans are of course aware these people are no longer involved with the success of Leicester Speedway.

 

Due partly to the economic situation, happily the Council are sympathetic to the lack of current progress and so this clumsy attempt at undermining the whole project and the owner has failed.

 

I don't follow why Lions fans as individuals need to feel "extreme disappointment" to be honest with you. The letter to the council had nothing to do with them, or indeed, the Leicester Lions. It was all to do with something that we were part of a few years back and asked certain questions about how they, the council, viewed it. It was not in any way an attempt to make problems for the Leicester Lions, who as I said on an earlier post, are doing brilliantly this season and that's great to see.

 

The letter referred solely to the greater site and to the terms of the planning application. I shall quote the promoter himself here from some recent programme notes where he refers to the state of the site....

 

"I think it is very important to point out this is not the direct responsibility of Leicester Speedway".

 

For once I agree with him. It's not. It's the responsibility of Beaumont Sports Complex Ltd, not Leicester Speedway. Therefore, I don't see why you and others are getting so defensive about it.

 

Incidentally, it also seems that people think it was us who got BBC East Midlands Today, BBC Radio Leicester and the Leicester Mercury involved. I can assure you it wasn't. It was an unknown councillor who was unhappy about the whole situation and he/she tipped off these media outlets, who still had our contact details from back when we were campaigning. They got in touch and simply asked us what we thought of the progress so we told them an honest opinion. We never at any point approached any of them so it wasn't a "clumsy attempt" at anything actually.

 

But, clumsy or not, it seems to have stirred up a hornets nest. You need to realise, we're not fans who attend BP every week and as such see things differently to you and those that do. There is a bigger picture to be had about the whole proposed sports complex. Leicester Speedway is just one part of it but it's apparent an awful lot of people can't see beyond that. Instead of solely talking to speedway fans try talking to some of the people who aren’t speedway fans but were looking forward to the other parts of the complex being developed. All we did was ask questions of the council after we'd been asked them of ourselves. And let's face it, if there wasn't a story to be reported, do you think the media organisations would have bothered with it? Of course they wouldn't. If everything was hunky dory the letter would have been ignored and it certainly wouldn't have been leaked to the press by a councillor.

 

I'm sure Leicester Speedway will be around for a long time to come and we’re not stupid enough to want to change that, despite what you may think. I'm sure you won't believe it, and even though it feels a long time ago now, but we're still both proud to have been a part of seeing speedway return to Leicester and there's enough folk go every week to justify it’s being there. I just hope that in the fullness of time the other elements of the sports complex we promised the public will also be there.

Edited September 5, 2012 by LionsDen