g13webb Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I’m still of the impression, we need to be strong at the top end and therefore need 3 good heat leaders. It all very well having a decent middle order but when teams come to NA we need good top end riders to win heats because we lose too many points at home. If we can’t be solid at home we will finish up again, where we did this year. To me Niels should be the first name on the list and make him Captain. 1. Neils K Iversen. 8.79 2. K. Wolbert:. 5.03 3. Rory Schlein:. 7.23 eg./ or similar 4 D. Nermark . 5.20 5. C. Harris. . 7.55 eg./ or similar (S. Nicholls) 6. K. Smith: . 3.73 7. L. Eklof: 3.00 Total: 40.60 This team offers 3 leaders to win races, we then have 2 good solid middle order, and 2 reserves that will only get better. I would always choose Nermark over Szczepaniak, both are on a similar average, but feel Dan battles for places more and would produce better on away tracks.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) I would always choose Nermark over Szczepaniak, both are on a similar average, but feel Dan battles for places more and would produce better on away tracks.. The problem with Nermark is he has no team ethic at all. If he's in front of a team mate chasing down an opposing ride when he's clearly the slower rider he'll never give his place up at all costs. It really lets him down. Edit: Forgot to add, I'd be well chuffed if that team lined up in 2013 Edited September 20, 2012 by screamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 You need at least one strong reserve, with all due respect to Kozza and Linus we would struggle big time if they lined up together at reserve. The only reason Poole have done well this year with weak reserves is that they have the top two riders in the league. TBH I didn't realise Nermark's average was so low, as disappointing as he has been this year thats a tempting figure and it would be a tough choice between him and Mateuz....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicojbutts Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 You need at least one strong reserve, with all due respect to Kozza and Linus we would struggle big time if they lined up together at reserve. The only reason Poole have done well this year with weak reserves is that they have the top two riders in the league. TBH I didn't realise Nermark's average was so low, as disappointing as he has been this year thats a tempting figure and it would be a tough choice between him and Mateuz....... I think that you are underestimating Kozza & Linus.Linus looked good on sky on monday night & I haven't seen many better reserves around norfolk arena than Kozza! But I do agree it might be worth taking a punt on Dan! As popular as Mads is he was unable to make the second heatleader berth his own and as such on his average I don't think we can risk having him back in 2013. Mateuz is more than capable of riding at number 2 IMO. If Wolbert is joined by a three of four pointer at reserve with Puk at 1 that gives scope to rebuild the middle order and get the engine room of the team right for next season. I still think that we need 2 strong riders at no.1 & no.5.Iversen & Batchelor would be my choice,as they both ride the norfolk arena well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 You need at least one strong reserve, with all due respect to Kozza and Linus we would struggle big time if they lined up together at reserve. The only reason Poole have done well this year with weak reserves is that they have the top two riders in the league. TBH I didn't realise Nermark's average was so low, as disappointing as he has been this year thats a tempting figure and it would be a tough choice between him and Mateuz....... Since Linus signed for Poole he not been that bad score wise. There would be far worse out there on a 3 average. Although I think him being back a Poole is more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Don't get me wrong, I think Linus and Kozza would both do ok but I'd only want one of them in the side at any one time as I think we need a reserve who can score big and win matches, like Howe, Szczepaniak and Wolbert have this year. The problem has been the positions 3, 4 & 5 in the team, that is the area we need to get right without taking away from the reserve strength we have often had. Not an easy task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 For me, the home form this year has been most disappointing. Whilst I firmly believe you win and lose as a team, the team was always bound to struggle at home with Korneliussen as the 2nd heat leader. No lack of effort, but he just is not a second heat leader in my eyes. A decent 2nd heat leader is required, and a more consistent middle order would be nice aswell! Nermark struggled a lot during the season, but strangely enough early in the season in a second string role, he was largely doing fine. On a 5.2 - 5.30 average, I'd have him back in a jiffy. He needs to grow the beard back in the winter aswell. I'd also bring back Olly Allen. He has his critics, but we really missed him this year. He's dependable, and could usually guarantee 7-9 points from him at home. We could have done with that numerous times. Something like: 1 Kenneth Bjerre 2 Daniel Nermark 3 Oliver Allen 4 Maciej Janowski 5 Rory Schlein 6 Lasse Bjerre 7 Jason Garrity/Ashley Birks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 For me, the home form this year has been most disappointing. Whilst I firmly believe you win and lose as a team, the team was always bound to struggle at home with Korneliussen as the 2nd heat leader. No lack of effort, but he just is not a second heat leader in my eyes. A decent 2nd heat leader is required, and a more consistent middle order would be nice aswell! Nermark struggled a lot during the season, but strangely enough early in the season in a second string role, he was largely doing fine. On a 5.2 - 5.30 average, I'd have him back in a jiffy. He needs to grow the beard back in the winter aswell. I'd also bring back Olly Allen. He has his critics, but we really missed him this year. He's dependable, and could usually guarantee 7-9 points from him at home. We could have done with that numerous times. Something like: 1 Kenneth Bjerre 2 Daniel Nermark 3 Oliver Allen 4 Maciej Janowski 5 Rory Schlein 6 Lasse Bjerre 7 Jason Garrity/Ashley Birks Think Bjerre would be a horrendous signing. Riding poor enough before his broken leg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Don't get me wrong, I think Linus and Kozza would both do ok but I'd only want one of them in the side at any one time as I think we need a reserve who can score big and win matches, like Howe, Szczepaniak and Wolbert have this year. The problem has been the positions 3, 4 & 5 in the team, that is the area we need to get right without taking away from the reserve strength we have often had. Not an easy task. The reserves in a team are not expected to win races, they are expected to beat the opposition reserves. I agree with you that Howe, Szczepaniak and Wolbert have scored well at reserves this year, but this was because the likes of Mads and Magic wasn't that consistant. With a top five, like I have said above, the reserves would only have cover 2 heats, and I'm sure Kozza and Linus could do that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I think the idea that Lynn could afford Puk, Harris and Schlein is pie in the sky anyway, perhaps two of them at a push but certainly not all three on the money they would want. As for Kenneth, on an average of just over 8 I think he'd be good value. He was scoring well again after an awful start to the season and if the likes of Holder, Ward & Woffinden carry out their threats to give the UK a miss next year he'd be a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Not sure I agree. He is not getting any younger and a broken leg for him wont be as easy for him to recover from anymore. His GP form had been awful and his league form not much better. Would go for NKI every time even if his average is a bit higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 My point about Kenneth was a general one, I'd certainly want Puk back at number one given the choice. I just feel Bjerre is on a false figure, most of his issues this year were mechanical and while I take your point about his broken leg I can't see him being in the GP's next season which will probably help his league form. Take the turbo twits out of the EL and Bjerre is one of the top men, without question (Nige ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justspeedway Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 A team I think we could afford: 1. N.K. Iversen 8.79 2. M. Szczepaniak 5.19 3. R. Fisher 6.02 (what average would he come in on, if PL -% he would be around 5.5?) 4. O. Allen 5.77 5. R. Schlein 7.23 6. K. Wolbert 5.03 7. L. Eklof 3.00 Total 41.03 A team I think would be strong at home in my eyes. Hopefully somethings would change so the team would fit, if the Fish's average dropped you could bring Nermark back in place of Matuesz but with O.Allen, R. Fisher and D. Nermark in the same team it wouldn't be too long until someone is seriously injured! I think I would rather give the Pole another go to be honest Daniel just is too crazy, I would have liked to see Kozza back in a D/UP to be honest but you can only do what the numbers let you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I think the idea that Lynn could afford Puk, Harris and Schlein is pie in the sky anyway, perhaps two of them at a push but certainly not all three on the money they would want. I'm no doubt your right about the cost of the said three. But I mentioned these as examples rather then specifics. There are quite a few good riders that go well at Lynn around the 7 half mark.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 If the likes of Wuffy and Ward pull out of riding in the UK, then genuine number ones could well be in short supply. Clubs who have assets will obviously gets first dibs on those assets. The riders that are left could then be very sought after, and even end up as part of a bidding war. All the 'dream' teams' i have seen out together on this thread, are just that. Kings Lynn will again be sitting at the feet of other promotors with the begging bowl out. I can understand why Buster is not prepared to buy any expensive assets, but thats the price we have to pay. I am still not convinced that Kings Lynn will be Elite League next season. Looking the line-up of the Ash Jones meeting, there looks a few riders who Buster could be looking at for Premier league racing at Lynn, plus a look at the form of the current assets to see who could be worth a place at that level. Ok maybe 2+2 = 1000009988, but a thought at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Talking of the Ashley memorial meeting...why isnt Kevin Doolan in the line-up? I know he allegedly had a falling-out with the promotion, but him and Ash were good mates so its a bit off if he wasnt invited, and I'm sure a lot of fans would like to see him anyway? Edited September 21, 2012 by Star Fever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Surely Kev should be told about the meeting every year whether he is asked to race or not, very disappointing from our management!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I think Doolan would be a little to strong for the line-up. It looks to me like a National League/Premier League Res type of standard. Plus all the riders look quite local. Doolan is Sheffield is based, isnt he ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yes I agree Semion hence I typed "whether he is asked to race or not" ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Do we know he hasnt been asked Trees ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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