Haza Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Read on this forum that Buster will be at KL long after Rick leaves. Maybe not. or just maybe Rick is bored stiff with the Showground lack of dates and poor track prep that he moves lock stock and barrel to the Norfolk Arena bet you never considered that Sunshine lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 or just maybe Rick is bored stiff with the Showground lack of dates and poor track prep that he moves lock stock and barrel to the Norfolk Arena bet you never considered that Sunshine lol Agree, Manage assets like Daniel Nermark and Flip Sitera is a very hard proposition to turn down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Agree, Manage assets like Daniel Nermark and Flip Sitera is a very hard proposition to turn down. Idiot - you miss my point totally all YOUR assets come with Rick to NA after all he owns the Panthers all you are left with is a track . Plus points regular racing every week not 3in 8days then nothing for a month and a track that is one if not the best in the UK and track staff that are not clueless unlike the showground could it happen ?? My source says it could lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Idiot - you miss my point totally all YOUR assets come with Rick to NA after all he owns the Panthers all you are left with is a track . Plus points regular racing every week not 3in 8days then nothing for a month and a track that is one if not the best in the UK and track staff that are not clueless unlike the showground could it happen ?? My source says it could lol would rather watch tweety pie keep flying round it's bircage in circles at least i can see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Niels said after the race the other night that he's enjoyed his 2 years at King's Lynn and he would like to come back next year BUT he is still a Peterborough asset and so will have to wait and see whether he is in their plans. Pretty obvious I know but it's no forgone conclusion that he will be back at the Norfolk Arena in 2013. It would be a lot neater if we could just buy him!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) Well we managed some decent discussion before the thread went the same way as most others. Time for people to grow up, act their age and if they really want to wind eachother up then go on social networking sites to do it. Edited September 19, 2012 by Bagpuss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) I didnt think Buster was looking to buy any riders, or rather i think it was Jonathon who said it. I can well understand that as well. You can spend 20-30k bringing a rider in, use him for one season then its back to the numbers games in as much as can he fit into your team the following season. Look at NKI for example. Peterbough paid good money for him, Lynn for 2 seasons, Wolves for a season. I guess thats why Middlo wants to keep hold of Ward, after Ford paid out big money for him. The other side is you could pay out big money, then after one year the rider decides he will give the UK a miss,so a Promotor cant even get a loan fee for him. Speedway is not that well off that Promotions can afford to throw money down the drain. Speedway now is more about Guns for hire. They do a year or even 2 then move on to the next Big Top in another town. Edited September 19, 2012 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I think Peterborough might take Iversen back for 2013, and form a spearhead with Bjerre... it would easily be within their average limits as Bjerre's has dropped quite a bit. 1. Hans Andersen 8.09 2. Mateusz Szczepaniak 5.19 3. Maciej Janowski 6.37 4. Olly Allen 5.77 5. Chris Harris 7.55 6. Kevin Wolbert/Lasse Bjerre 5.03 7. Linus Eklof/Richie Worrall/Mason Campton 3.00 Total 41.00 Id love to see Richie Worrall at Lynn,just the kind of track he needs to be at at this stage,big,fast and grippy,will be the making of him i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I didnt think Buster was looking to buy any riders, or rather i think it was Jonathon who said it. I can well understand that as well. You can spend 20-30k bringing a rider in, use him for one season then its back to the numbers games in as much as can he fit into your team the following season. Look at NKI for example. Peterbough paid good money for him, Lynn for 2 seasons, Wolves for a season. I guess thats why Middlo wants to keep hold of Ward, after Ford paid out big money for him. The other side is you could pay out big money, then after one year the rider decides he will give the UK a miss,so a Promotor cant even get a loan fee for him. Speedway is not that well off that Promotions can afford to throw money down the drain. Speedway now is more about Guns for hire. They do a year or even 2 then move on to the next Big Top in another town. Personally I don’t see the logic of Rider Assets in its present form. In a sport where finance is a premium, the current rule, on asset base riders, only creates problems. It offers no benefit to the sport whatsoever. A rider should be able to choose who he rides for and negotiate his own contract. Scenarios like Swindon, Poole and Miedzinski should never happen. The accusation aimed at Bjarne Pedersen performance against his owners is wrong, but the current ruling will always create these problems. The scheme of Rider Assets needs a major overhaul, to bring it in line with modern times. Until that happens, I agree with the Chapman’s, in that its ridiculous to spend vast amount of money on a rider, without having total availability commitment for the foreseeable future, and also, the co-operation of the BSPA to enable the club to facilitate that asset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Personally I don’t see the logic of Rider Assets in its present form. In a sport where finance is a premium, the current rule, on asset base riders, only creates problems. It offers no benefit to the sport whatsoever. A rider should be able to choose who he rides for and negotiate his own contract. Scenarios like Swindon, Poole and Miedzinski should never happen. The accusation aimed at Bjarne Pedersen performance against his owners is wrong, but the current ruling will always create these problems. The scheme of Rider Assets needs a major overhaul, to bring it in line with modern times. Until that happens, I agree with the Chapman’s, in that its ridiculous to spend vast amount of money on a rider, without having total availability commitment for the foreseeable future, and also, the co-operation of the BSPA to enable the club to facilitate that asset. Unless the current system changes (which it won't as teams with large asset bases will lose out), Lynn will be in the same position each season of having to wait until other teams have been picked before seeing who's left to build a 1-7. Perhaps a rule could be bought in from point x, NO teams are allowed to accrue assets and so in time we'd get to a situation where all riders are free agents and are free to move as they seem fit at the end of whatever fixed term contract they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Unless the current system changes (which it won't as teams with large asset bases will lose out), Lynn will be in the same position each season of having to wait until other teams have been picked before seeing who's left to build a 1-7. Perhaps a rule could be bought in from point x, NO teams are allowed to accrue assets and so in time we'd get to a situation where all riders are free agents and are free to move as they seem fit at the end of whatever fixed term contract they have. Totally agree with that....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Ditto...with teams permanently changing year on year there is no point to an asset base. Riders will stay with teams if they are happy there and fit the points limit, if not they will move on. No loan fees, no selling/buying fees, which at the end of the day can't be a bad thing for the less well off clubs...and the more wealthy ones will just make more money in the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Does a rider have to be an asset of one club, as if he is good enough can he agree his own contract with any club for a period of time and at the end of that contract decide who he wants to ride for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 It'd be great to have Niels back, sure but there are two riders I'd love Lynn to keep hold of.... Kevin Wolbert for me is a MUST!!! He is just a pleasure to watch and NEVER gives up; Mateusz Szczepaniak is the other - he rides sensibly and steadily and like KW he races for all four laps. So, thats our no.1 and the reserves sorted - in between I'd be happy to see Mads back too if he can get his 2011 form back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 He certainly got his form back last night Star Fever, but does need to be be a bit more consistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 He certainly got his form back last night Star Fever, but does need to be be a bit more consistant. What 8 points from 6 rides top form that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 What 8 points from 6 rides top form that is Who mentioned "top form" game on, also maybe I should have put a smiley face on comment as 03230 is not consistant. But 8 from a 7point average rider on an away track is not too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 It'd be great to have Niels back, sure but there are two riders I'd love Lynn to keep hold of.... Kevin Wolbert for me is a MUST!!! He is just a pleasure to watch and NEVER gives up; Mateusz Szczepaniak is the other - he rides sensibly and steadily and like KW he races for all four laps. So, thats our no.1 and the reserves sorted - in between I'd be happy to see Mads back too if he can get his 2011 form back. The chances of fitting in both kevin and Mateusz at reserve must be pretty slim. Not unless you have no recognised 2nd heatleader to save points. On or the other will have to be at #2 I'd have thought. As for Mads, the likelyhood is that 2011 was a flash in the pan, he is an inconsistent 6.5-7 point rider. But he's quite likable and probably worth signing on his current average, it shouldn't get any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Who mentioned "top form" game on, also maybe I should have put a smiley face on comment as 03230 is not consistant. But 8 from a 7point average rider on an away track is not too bad He could of had more but he got caught jumping the starts about three times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 As popular as Mads is he was unable to make the second heatleader berth his own and as such on his average I don't think we can risk having him back in 2013. Mateuz is more than capable of riding at number 2 IMO. If Wolbert is joined by a three of four pointer at reserve with Puk at 1 that gives scope to rebuild the middle order and get the engine room of the team right for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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