Bagpuss Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I doubt anyone can either prove or disprove that piece of mud you have just slung. But one would have to ask why Lynn have been trying to sign Puk for all these weeks if they can't afford to pay the loan fee! In any case I can't imagine the pot ever being 'empty' with Mr Warnes involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 i have heard from a very good source that the pot at Kings Lynn is empty and that they cannot afford too buy or even pay a loan fee for Niels K Iversen, somebody correct me if i'm wrong though please. a typical KKS post you really are deluded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAST Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I don’t know anything about the Kings Lynn situation BUT there was talk towards the end of last season that a proposal was going to the AGM to “Scrap” Loan fees in the difficult economic climate clubs were experiencing. I don’t know if this proposal was submitted and if so whether it was accepted, rejected or put on hold. Perhaps the proposal itself was seen as the “writing on the wall” hence the differing positions clubs have taken. With all the different vested interests and percetion of "rule bending", perhaps certain limitations and constraints may have been placed on the proposal by the BSPA. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyb Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Swindon robins V Kings Lynn Stars to be on Sky sports on thurs 4th April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I don’t know anything about the Kings Lynn situation BUT there was talk towards the end of last season that a proposal was going to the AGM to “Scrap” Loan fees in the difficult economic climate clubs were experiencing. I don’t know if this proposal was submitted and if so whether it was accepted, rejected or put on hold. Perhaps the proposal itself was seen as the “writing on the wall” hence the differing positions clubs have taken. With all the different vested interests and percetion of "rule bending", perhaps certain limitations and constraints may have been placed on the proposal by the BSPA. Terry You're still alive Tel, excellent news 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAST Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 HI Trev Very much still alive - despite Elaine's best attempts. Got the season ticket app forms ready and will be their yet again. I trust you are keeping well - still sitting in the cheap seats near the start line? Glad to see you are still sparring with the individuals in the City of Birmingham overspill areas Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 HI Trev Very much still alive - despite Elaine's best attempts. Got the season ticket app forms ready and will be their yet again. I trust you are keeping well - still sitting in the cheap seats near the start line? Glad to see you are still sparring with the individuals in the City of Birmingham overspill areas Terry Just give out my car registration, where I park and my mobile number Tel, don't do half job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAST Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Trev You got a car - thought you were still on a moped :D Never had you down as a user of modern technology - such as a mobile phone! You'll be telling me next, it’s a smart phone and you browse the web and send e-mails best wishes (off to watch Murder in Paradise) Tel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) I doubt anyone can either prove or disprove that piece of mud you have just slung. But one would have to ask why Lynn have been trying to sign Puk for all these weeks if they can't afford to pay the loan fee! In any case I can't imagine the pot ever being 'empty' with Mr Warnes involved. You think theres money in this sugerbeet lark, hey Baggy ? I see some of his wagons have the Stars advertising on the back of them now. Tell you what I will wee myself if NKI goes backwards from last year to the old NKI after all this hype. I dont know if it is of interest but Lidl have a special on tena pads this week. Edited January 9, 2013 by semion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzAssStar Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 i have heard from a very good source that the pot at Kings Lynn is empty and that they cannot afford too buy or even pay a loan fee for Niels K Iversen, somebody correct me if i'm wrong though please. I've just heard from an equally good source that your head is empty........... can someone confirm please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Let's hope, if that is the case, that Boro will be patient! Surely the coffers are pretty low after paying for Rory?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think what is happening in speedway is what has been going on in business world generally for a few years. The money has run out and speedway teams are operating financially on a day to day basis. Some teams need to 'offload' assets (riders) other teams cant afford to operate unless its on a 'loan' basis so we come to an impasse. Banks are not willing to lend so where do you go from here? As much as we can criticise promotions, if you haven't got the money to buy a rider you just cant do it. And why would you with the present situation. I think some of the rantings we are hearing from promoters/promotions are borne out or sheer desperation with not having a financial solution to the problem. I am a businessman and I really don't see where the sport goes from here! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 More sponsorship!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 More sponsorship!! It would be lovely if that was the easy answer but I am afraid it isn't. My company sponsored a fairly prominent rider up to 2 years ago we can no longer afford to do it and I would say that would be the case for 95% of companies in this economic climate. Yes, sponsorship should be chased as a main prospect for more revenue but it isn't going to be as easy as you suggest. Most promoters I have spoken to over the last few years have seen a reduction in sponsorship revenue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think what is happening in speedway is what has been going on in business world generally for a few years. The money has run out and speedway teams are operating financially on a day to day basis. Some teams need to 'offload' assets (riders) other teams cant afford to operate unless its on a 'loan' basis so we come to an impasse. Banks are not willing to lend so where do you go from here? As much as we can criticise promotions, if you haven't got the money to buy a rider you just cant do it. And why would you with the present situation. I think some of the rantings we are hearing from promoters/promotions are borne out or sheer desperation with not having a financial solution to the problem. I am a businessman and I really don't see where the sport goes from here! Got to agree with these comments. I think some supporters need a reality check as to the financial position some of these speedway promotions are in and therefore how they are forced deal with situations. It is not a nice situation to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Got to agree with these comments. I think some supporters need a reality check as to the financial position some of these speedway promotions are in and therefore how they are forced deal with situations. It is not a nice situation to be in. We have Peterborough in dispute with KL and also Swindon. Coventry in dispute with Birmingham. I don't believe for one minute that these promotions/people want to be in a dispute with each other but it is a result of the situations they find themselves in. I really hope all the parties can come to an amicable agreement and we get on with the racing in March. Really don't want to lose NKI, Troy, Hans & BB to the EL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) People needed worry about Buster. People prehaps would also do well to remember he has sold the likes of Troy, Darcy and Kev Doolan over the past few years. That must equal a good few 000 in anyones book. Edited January 9, 2013 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young51 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Got to agree with these comments. I think some supporters need a reality check as to the financial position some of these speedway promotions are in and therefore how they are forced deal with situations. It is not a nice situation to be in. Surely the promotion at Peterboro as business people need to 'get real' in these tough financicial times before throwing a transfer or nothing ultimatum though?As i've said surely a solution can be worked out to the satisfaction of everyone instead of pissing everyone off which seems to be the situation at present?As ive suggested a loan fee and realistic instalments?Right now they're looking at a big fat zero return on their investment,which seems pretty dense..even to a non-business person like myself I really hope after all this guff is hopefully sorted,the whole assets system is looked at in detail and soon.. before our sport turns in to an even bigger running joke than it is at present.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Transfer Turmoil http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/2180/transfer-turmoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Surely the promotion at Peterboro as business people need to 'get real' in these tough financicial times before throwing a transfer or nothing ultimatum though?As i've said surely a solution can be worked out to the satisfaction of everyone instead of pissing everyone off which seems to be the situation at present?As ive suggested a loan fee and realistic instalments?Right now they're looking at a big fat zero return on their investment,which seems pretty dense..even to a non-business person like myself I really hope after all this guff is hopefully sorted,the whole assets system is looked at in detail and soon.. before our sport turns in to an even bigger running joke than it is at present.. Agree but you can't have a situation where assets become worthless overnight just because a particular system is not working. If I told my bank manager that the assets valued in my last audited accounts were worth £100K and now were worthless I doubt I would be getting support from him and he would be advising me to close the business. The bigger picture needs to be looked at hear otherwise............... And on the subject of the sport being a joke, I would rather outsiders think that and the sport can continue on a sustainable financial basis if the alternative is the sport becomes dead in this country. I just couldn't bear to think of that happening to speedway in this country. Edited January 10, 2013 by TesarRacing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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