g13webb Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 When Jonathon Chapman announced the Stars team before Christmas last year, my one reservation was the top end strength and therefore the lack of ability we needed to win our matches at home. Our only hope was that Neils, Mads and Magic would up their game to true heat leader status. Unfortunately that hasn’t been the case and only Neils raised his game sufficient enough to become a true No.1 Our track at the Norfolk Arena is that good and fair, all our opponents like racing here and raise their game when they visit us. Consequently, our home matches are harder to win then almost every other track in the league. If we can’t win our home matches then we stand no chance of being successful. So to combat this we have to have a strong trio of riders to compete with the quality of our visitors. Most teams have good leaders, Holder, Ward and Kasparzak; Anderson, Batchelor & Kildemand; Lindgrem, Woffinden & Wells; Bjerre, Sundstrom & Jensen; Harris, Nicholls & Kennet (All these riders go well at Lynn). So when talking of good second strings and strong reserves, they won’t win us many matches at home against the quality of riders I’ve mentioned. THREE strong heat leaders is a necessity, even to a point where the rest of the team is made up to suit the limit. The Elite league is so configured that it suits teams with a strong top end. Be it T/R or the heats 12 to 15. It’s the strong top-end teams that benefit the most. If we go down the same road this year with a solid team with little top end strength, we will do no better then we have this year. I just hope Jonathon and Buster are aware of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Or just have him instead of Wolbert... No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em1500uk Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Kennett a heatleader? I dunno if any Bees fans would agree Think he's been pish this season. Least he has been when I've seen him. As my dad would say...he couldn't catch a cold Anyway, Niels should be the first name to be announced without a shadow of a doubt for me. After that, they can give us names in any particular order Surprised with your post about Dan, Bagpuss. Never thought I'd see someone write that down! Think him moving to number 5 this year didn't help him. Why he can't manage to ride in that position over here, I really don't know, but he can't. If he were to come back, it has to be at 2 or 4. Mateusz seemed to cope with riding at 2, so as you say, 4 would be the position I'd hope he's placed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Iversen was on BikerFM earlier, didn't give much away, but did mention he and KL have been in talks, but no agreement made as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em1500uk Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Iversen was on BikerFM earlier, didn't give much away, but did mention he and KL have been in talks, but no agreement made as of yet. Ooo what a teaser I'll have to listen to the podcast. When was Niels on the show? I'm not after an exact time you understand just a rough idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 8.38.14 onwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Surprised with your post about Dan, Bagpuss. Never thought I'd see someone write that down! Based purely on Nermark's average Em, its an attractive figure when you consider what he should be capable of. I'd put riders like Kennett, Bridger, Schlein, Bjarne and possibly Harris in the same bracket as for me and for various reasons they are all capable of sticking at least a point on their starting figures. Lynn has over the last ten years proved to be a good environment for riders to get their careers back on track and increase their averages and that is the secret to a good team, and Neils apart one of the reasons why we had a poor season in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I would like to see the model we used so successfully in The Premier league come in play. Will build a team that would hold its own in year one with loads of improvement in it as the season progressed. Then In year 2 we reaped the benefits of it. We did it more than once. Ok, I accept it will be much harder to do in The Elite League. I jsut think all the names being put on here show very little in the way of improvment. Niels had a fine season, but can he go on again next season, with the added distraction of The grand Prix's ? I really have my doubts. Maybe we should start with a clean sheet of paper and put together a nice little 2 year plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I wish the Stars would try and sign Richie Worrall,i really rate Richie as a hell of a prospect and feel he needs a track like the NA at this stage,big ,fast and grippy,i really think he would benefit of a season there and could be the making of him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Good call Montie, thats the type of rider i would like to see there, the guy is only going to get better. I thought Lakeside had first dibs on him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Hmmmmm semmers, I'm not sure we are in a position to be chucking away the good things from this year. Worrall would be a fine signing but can't see him going anywhere other than Lakey. Craig Cook is one young Brit I would love to see in a Lynn racesuit but I imagine he'll end up elsewhere too. Take your point about Iversen but a high scoring number one is pretty essential and I don't see any reason why he can't carry on next year where he left off this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Good call Montie, thats the type of rider i would like to see there, the guy is only going to get better. I thought Lakeside had first dibs on him ? Yes im sure they will have,but i have watched Richie from his first rides on speedway and has never done anything but impress me,such a nice kid to,as his is bro,I dont really care where he goes to be honest and i will watch him with huge interest,i just think a track like the superb NA will be the making of him, He has got something about him as a rider,fantastic gater,i would just love to see him on a out and out racers track,plus its not far for me to come and watch him!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Good call Montie, thats the type of rider i would like to see there, the guy is only going to get better. I thought Lakeside had first dibs on him ? Lakeside have signed and announced him for 2013 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Hmmmmm semmers, I'm not sure we are in a position to be chucking away the good things from this year. Worrall would be a fine signing but can't see him going anywhere other than Lakey. Craig Cook is one young Brit I would love to see in a Lynn racesuit but I imagine he'll end up elsewhere too. Take your point about Iversen but a high scoring number one is pretty essential and I don't see any reason why he can't carry on next year where he left off this. I am not sure there is too many good bits to throw away. NKI was different class, but has he reached his peak ? Thats where the gamble comes in. Why would you say cook will end up elsewhere ? If he wants to become an Elite heat leader where better to do that than at a home track like Saddlebow. I agree we should have an out and out number one. Then again how many thought that NKI could fill that role this season ? Do we again try and go with with an 8 point rider who can hopefully add a point, or a 9.5 who will do very well to hold that ? Edited October 31, 2012 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I believe Puk's rolling average is around 8.8 semmers. I'd imagine Cook will be in demand in which case it comes down to £'s. As for good bits I'd suggest that Wolbert and Szczepaniak are worth persevering with, not to fussed about the others though personally. *too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Baggy, then I take that back, on 8.8 Puk is worth keeping. I guess it depends on if the Elite League will be further watered down or not. Wolbert was far to hit and miss, but maybe on his low average he could add a point of so, the same could be said of the Pole. Its the likes of Nermark that I see no future in. The same goes for Mads. They are where they are to stay. Elite league journeymen. The lad Majic, will be a great rider, just not in the British League. He misses to many meetings for reasons various. Would like to see some fresh blood brought in, either up an coming from the Premier League or from away. Ones who can hopefully bring thier averages up over a 2 season period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 No real argument from me semmers about last season's three middle order men......ideally we'll get fresh blood into those positions although I'd not be against having one of those three back if the numbers added up. Magic has no under 21 commitments next year, Nermark is better than 5.3 or whatever his rolling average is and Mads seems to have quite a bit of passion for the fight, I remember P'boro away in September when he was one of the few who got stuck in to a difficult track. Riders like Schlein, Proctor, Klindt, Hougaard, Mroczka and Kennett all spring to mind as riders who look to be on low figures for their ability and have either become a bit stale at their clubs or who have perhaps suffered with injuries and have the potential to add a point or two to what they would start on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Oh blimey Semion you're bloody hard!! Of course we need to keep Niels, he did the job this year with no squit whatsoever, how can u not want the guy in our team in 2013? Wolbert was a different rider towards the end of the season, did u not know why? Mat was often the match winner, like him loads! Not sure about Magic, only the management know if they'd give him another go, IF he wants to come back of course! I would like to see Howe back and it goes without saying Kozza! I'm in the minority on here who'd have Mads back too if possible, there was good reason the management gave him the captain's armband after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Craig Cook is one young Brit I would love to see in a Lynn racesuit but I imagine he'll end up elsewhere too. Take your point about Iversen but a high scoring number one is pretty essential and I don't see any reason why he can't carry on next year where he left off this. Craig Cook in the Speedway Star was quoted as saying he was unlikely to ride at Belle Vue next season - As he wanted to ride on the continent and Monday would not be ideal if he was riding in Poland / Sweden. Guess that rules him out for Eastbourne too ... I can see him going to Poole but certainly a rider a number of clubs will be hoping to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy17 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Cook doubling up with Allen or Howe would work well. Allen or Howe to do majority home meetings and Cook to do away. Cook has always looked average round Lynn but is very good at other EL tracks... Iversen Wolbert Kennett or Magic Cook/Howe or Allen Schlein Sczcepaniak Kozza/Birks Just fits. Edited October 31, 2012 by speedy17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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