em1500uk Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Stars fans who say they're not bothered anymore, here's something that may just tip us over the edge. If the points are handed to Peterborough due to the illegal use of Kozza, Peterborough will only be 4 points behind us in the league. Worse than that, bottom of the table Belle Vue will be only 6 behind. Our current lineup is also only looking down & not up. This can only be bad for the club and attendance figures are bound to slip over the next few meetings. This is one fan worried, very worried I said I thought the attendance figures would drop off over the next few home meetings after that away loss at Peterborough. In my humble opinion, our play off hopes went out of the window weeks ago, probably when Simon Stead got injured. That was the nail in the coffin for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Oh for gord's sake let's have some positivity here, it's the way Poole work, positive thinking, it's the way sport's competitors and clubs have to be, just look at Norwich City!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Stars fans who say they're not bothered anymore, here's something that may just tip us over the edge If the points are handed to Peterborough due to the illegal use of Kozza, Peterborough will only be 4 points behind us in the league. Worse than that, bottom of the table Belle Vue will be only 6 behind. Our current lineup is also only looking down & not up. This can only be bad for the club and attendance figures are bound to slip over the next few meetings. This is one fan worried, very worried more doom and gloom from the king /queen of doom and gloom I agree with Trees positivity is needed on off the terraces come on u Stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastethepoison Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Oh for gord's sake let's have some positivity here, it's the way Poole work, positive thinking, it's the way sport's competitors and clubs have to be, just look at Norwich City!! What on earth are you on about? Norwich City have naff all to do with predicament Lynn and speedway currently finds itself in. Beginning to fall out of love with the sport, depending on how the winter goes with regards to rules and league structure, I may spend my money elsewhere in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 For a season that promised so much, yet delivered so very little, fate has taken a massive swipe at the Stars this season. Can just see this season quietly drifting away to its conclusion. A winter off and we will all ( some) we back with re-newed hope next season. The die hards fans will stick with it until the bitter end, the floaters wont be seen again until next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyb Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Well whatever happens I will be spending my money at Kings Lynn next and the year after, we see good racing most weeks and that's the most important thing to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Its been a pretty disastrous season but there is still pride to race for, and its important that Porsing and Lebedev get experience and proper averages from the remaining meetings. Hopefully Kozza and Lewi Kerr will also get further opportunities to show what they can do in readiness for next year. These four lads plus Lewis Rose and hopefully Robert Lambert are the future of the club so there is plenty to look forward to next year and beyond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Positive thinking m8! I know what I mean if you don't haha What on earth are you on about? Norwich City have naff all to do with predicament Lynn and speedway currently finds itself in. Beginning to fall out of love with the sport, depending on how the winter goes with regards to rules and league structure, I may spend my money elsewhere in 2014. For a season that promised so much, yet delivered so very little, fate has taken a massive swipe at the Stars this season. Can just see this season quietly drifting away to its conclusion. A winter off and we will all ( some) we back with re-newed hope next season. The die hards fans will stick with it until the bitter end, the floaters wont be seen again until next season. Can't be doing with floaters, sink em!! :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 It's not the results I find frustrating, but rather the conflicting rules/confusion surrounding the rule book. Surely the rules for motorbike racing, even in teams, can be clear cut and easy to apply, and NOT over complicated. I enjoy the racing, but when there get to be arguments about rules and points deductions and accusations of cheating, it all gets rather tedious, and I find myself wondering why I'm wasting my time. Perhaps the solution would be to forget the overall results, delete my BSF account, and live my life in blissful stupidity, only discovering things at the track 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 It's not the results I find frustrating, but rather the conflicting rules/confusion surrounding the rule book. Surely the rules for motorbike racing, even in teams, can be clear cut and easy to apply, and NOT over complicated. I enjoy the racing, but when there get to be arguments about rules and points deductions and accusations of cheating, it all gets rather tedious, and I find myself wondering why I'm wasting my time. Perhaps the solution would be to forget the overall results, delete my BSF account, and live my life in blissful stupidity, only discovering things at the track For what it's worth, I found myself wondering that some time ago. Result? I no longer waste my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Oh for gord's sake let's have some positivity here, it's the way Poole work, positive thinking... ....yes but Poole DO positive too - they replace their injured riders with comparable substitutes therefore optimism is maintained! If Lynn had done the same with Simon, then nobody would be moaning 'cos understandably we've only gone downhill since hes been missing. Edited August 2, 2013 by Star Fever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em1500uk Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 You always manage to find a positive in a negative, Trees. I'm afraid not all of us are looking at things in that way at this moment in time! If Kozza's points are to be deducted, then so-be-it, if we're found to be in the wrong. I can accept that. What I can't accept is the fact that the rules and regulations are not written in black and white i.e there are NO misinterpretations or room for getting something like this oh so wrong. From reading some rules, there are grey areas to be exploited (don't know if that's the right word to use, but I think in some cases it's very appropriate!) and this shouldn't be the case. I think the rulebook is the real issue here, along with the BSPA and the SCB or whoever not fully seeming to understand the rules either. If neither of them can understand the rulebook, then what chance has a team manager or supporter got of understanding them?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) ....yes but Poole DO positive too - they replace their injured riders with comparable substitutes therefore optimism is maintained! If Lynn had done the same with Simon, then nobody would be moaning 'cos understandably we've only gone downhill since hes been missing. I have to ask, do you think that the promotion left any stones unturned in their search for replacements for Klindt, Stead and Alden? I can't believe that there were better options who were able to come over but were simply ignored. Worth pointing out too that Stead and Klindt were signed on 'bargain' averages thus making them extremely difficult to replace, especially Klindt whose figure dropped even further. Poole for their part replaced riders in Stachyra, Miskowiak and Howarth who looked poor in the first place and therefore they would have had a job to weaken their side by replacing them. Stead and Schlein were the two key men for me when the side was named. Rory hasn't produced unfortunately and Stead's first injury coincided with him dropping to reserve (he only rode one match there). Once he broke his leg our season was effectively over. Edited August 2, 2013 by Bagpuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I have to ask, do you think that the promotion left any stones unturned in their search for replacements for Klindt, Stead and Alden? I can't believe that there were better options who were able to come over but were simply ignored. Worth pointing out too that Stead and Klindt were signed on 'bargain' averages thus making them extremely difficult to replace, especially Klindt whose figure dropped even further. Poole for their part replaced riders in Stachyra, Miskowiak and Howarth who looked poor in the first place and therefore they would have had a job to weaken their side by replacing them. Stead and Schlein were the two key men for me when the side was named. Rory hasn't produced unfortunately and Stead's first injury coincided with him dropping to reserve (he only rode one match there). Once he broke his leg our season was effectively over. Well I have no complaints about Klindt being replaced - he should have gone earlier in my opinion, and it should have been him replaced by Richie - not Kozza. Similarly I have no problem with Lasse for Seb. As it worked out though Howe replaced Klindt, and then Lebedev replaced Howe, but still good attempts to strengthen the team. The problems really started when we had injuries and Mads (NOT Simon btw), was replaced by Porsing. I cant believe we couldnt have found a substitute nearer to Mads' 7-ish average. Shortly afterwards we lost Simon too and Mads eventually returned to replace him, so yes we had a seven-man team for a change but it was considerably weaker. Simon's average was 6-ish at the time and he had been in good form between injuries, so to effectively settle for 4 pointer(s) as his replacement i think was wrong. If one or both of Lebedevs and Porsing had been instant hits we'd have been laughing of course, but we were unlucky - looks like they'll take a while to get going. With hindsight maybe we should've tried Bogdanovs or Podzouks - arguably better riders as proved in WTC, or indeed Mikkelsen who seems to have hit the ground running, but I still cant believe we couldnt have got a 6-7pter in the first place* for Mads/Simon and then a 4-pointer, Kozza being the obvious choice. *I dont know the averages but Peter Ljung/ David Ruud/ Artur Mroczka .. even Matty Szeczpaniak or Daniel Nermark would have had potential to get a few points as Mads/Simon replacement(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I have no complaints as to who was bought in as replacements for INJ riders. Perhaps we waiting too long to replace riders and operated R/R too often but I can't think this was due to a lack of effort in finding a replacement from Buster and Rob. Unlike some clubs, we are run as a business, and a business has to break-even. Any fool with a chequebook can go out and sign world famous riders who demand "telephone number" salaries. I don't blame Buster for not wanting to follow this unsustainable trend. We ride on Wednesday's too which doesn't help as there are many clashes with other leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) I have no complaints as to who was bought in as replacements for INJ riders. Perhaps we waiting too long to replace riders and operated R/R too often but I can't think this was due to a lack of effort in finding a replacement from Buster and Rob. Unlike some clubs, we are run as a business, and a business has to break-even. Any fool with a chequebook can go out and sign world famous riders who demand "telephone number" salaries. I don't blame Buster for not wanting to follow this unsustainable trend. We ride on Wednesday's too which doesn't help as there are many clashes with other leagues. Only the Danes I think ride on Wednesdays - but that doesnt seem to bother all the Danes we've had! And maybe Ljung and others would demand high fees yes , but Szeczpaniak & Nermark?? Anyway its all water under the bridge now so pointless harping on about it I suppose.... Edited August 2, 2013 by Star Fever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Starfever, we can pick names out that seem a good idea but it's not as easy as that is it, as you know . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I too, thought Lynn had the makings of a decent side this year, and were more then capable of holding their own in what looked like a competitive league. But, Lynn have been unfortunate with injuries this year and therefore any hopes of being successful have long gone. But this hasn't taken away the enjoyment I get from going to Saddlebow Road. To me, I sit up in the stand and watch the races. I enjoy them all, the ones we win as well as the ones we lose. especially the closely contested races. So I will continue to watch the Stars in both leagues, whether the team is at the top of the league or the bottom, to me, it makes no difference.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em1500uk Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Only the Danes I think ride on Wednesdays - but that doesnt seem to bother all the Danes we've had! And maybe Ljung and others would demand high fees yes , but Szeczpaniak & Nermark?? Anyway its all water under the bridge now so pointless harping on about it I suppose.... Swedish Elitserien (Tuesdays) Swedish Allsvenskan (Thursdays) All Polish leagues (Sundays) Just for reference The Danish Super League does tend to run on Wednesdays, although I'm sure some meetings can run on Mondays and Fridays too, looking at the entire Danish Super League fixture list that I have. Edited August 2, 2013 by em1500uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikstar Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Isn't the Czech League Wednesday nights too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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