Daniel Smith Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Let me just clarify, this 3 year rule isn't a rule as such but (supposedly) a "gentleman's agreement" within the sport. I'm guessing that P'Boro / BSPA are enforce this on King's Lynn. ________________________________________ Question I have for us Kings Lynn supporters is; Will you be happy to pay the increase to £17 on the gate for the purchase of Iversen????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) So it's not a Rule; its purely an Option that the parent club could use if required.......... Now I've heard it all..... Call them rules.... I call it a laughing stock... Could this be because EL 'owned' double-uppers have to ride in the PL and are actually loaned to the PL clubs for the season. Any doubling-up is negotiated with the rider and the PL club he is at so it could be argued by those that want to that he'll be 'on loan' to Wolves from Sheffield not Coventry. If Wolves want to buy him as their asset that's between them and his parent club, not the club he's on loan at. Theoretically, if Belle Vue wanted to buy Mads they would have to negotiate with Swindon not KL even though he would still ride at KL for the remainder of his riding contract with them. I'm not saying that is the reason, but it seems perfectly logical to me. Edited December 22, 2012 by Vincent Blackshadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I'm not saying that is the reason, but it seems perfectly logical to me. Well of cause it would.... Reading your posts, you have a big problem with Kings Lynn, and everything ruled against us 'would seem logical to you' have a appy christmas.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I don't see it like that at all GRW, for me Vincent simply has a problem with rules not being followed (as his regular contributions on Poole threads shows), and I'm afraid in this instance our club appears to have offered Puk a deal without his parent club's permission. I agree that the asset system isn't ideal but the cart is being put before the horse here, its no good ignoring the rules, getting rumbled and then saying that the asset system should be abolished. And while I agree that Mr Frost is dragging his heels a bit now as the rules stand he's perfectly within his rights to make everyone sweat as long as he pleases, he holds all the Aces. As I've said before there are over three months until Lynn's first EL match, and I'm sure it'll all be sorted in plenty of time. To answer screamer, an extra pound won't make too much difference to me although there were a few meetings last year that I didn't attend (mainly the ones on Sky) due to cost and there will be this year too, unfortunately in the current climate I'm finding EL speedway very expensive and not great value for money. However the love I have for my team will probably see me go to the majority of the meetings again. Edited December 22, 2012 by Bagpuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Let me just clarify, this 3 year rule isn't a rule as such but (supposedly) a "gentleman's agreement" within the sport. I'm guessing that P'Boro / BSPA are enforce this on King's Lynn. ________________________________________ Question I have for us Kings Lynn supporters is; Will you be happy to pay the increase to £17 on the gate for the purchase of Iversen????? I would pay £20 to watch Niels each week, But with one proviso, and that would be that we never deal with them Cats again. They have really shown their true colours.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Let me just clarify, this 3 year rule isn't a rule as such but (supposedly) a "gentleman's agreement" within the sport. I'm guessing that P'Boro / BSPA are enforce this on King's Lynn. ________________________________________ Question I have for us Kings Lynn supporters is; Will you be happy to pay the increase to £17 on the gate for the purchase of Iversen????? ive asked the question before where is this information coming from? nothing official just here say as far as I can see . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I would pay £20 to watch Niels each week, But with one proviso, and that would be that we never deal with them Cats again. They have really shown their true colours.... It would be useful to know where yourself and Bagpuss individually watch your speedway from at tha NA for future reference. Bagpuss obviously frequents the sensible zone whereas you would be in the frothing at the mouth zone which I would like to avoid if possible Edited December 22, 2012 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I would pay £20 to watch Niels each week, But with one proviso, and that would be that we never deal with them Cats again. They have really shown their true colours.... I don't see it like that at all GRW, for me Vincent simply has a problem with rules not being followed (as his regular contributions on Poole threads shows), and I'm afraid in this instance our club appears to have offered Puk a deal without his parent club's permission. I have never agreed with the ‘Illegal aproach’, but come on, lets put it into prospective. It happens all the time, and those whose think otherwise are burying the heads in the sands. It’s the first form of communication, whats the point of going after a rider if he doesn’t want to ride for you.. This has been made into a mountain. What should have happened is the two clubs sat around a table with the rider and sort out a deal that suited everybody. Not drag it out in public and then before the MC. I agree that the asset system isn't ideal but the cart is being put before the horse here, its no good ignoring the rules, getting rumbled and then saying that the asset system should be abolished. And while I agree that Mr Frost is dragging his heels a bit now as the rules stand he's perfectly within his rights to make everyone sweat as long as he pleases, he holds all the Aces. Never have I said the Asset System should be abolished. I am in no doubt there needs to be a system, but one that works. The rules need to be updated to keep it in line with present day workings of a speedway rider. When someone like Mr Frost can dictate to the sport where and when his riders go then it only highlights all the inadequacies of the system and rules should be changed stopping this from happening. For one man to hold all the ‘ACES’ is deportment to the sport. As I've said before there are over three months until Lynn's first EL match, and I'm sure it'll all be sorted in plenty of time. To answer screamer, an extra pound won't make too much difference to me although there were a few meetings last year that I didn't attend (mainly the ones on Sky) due to cost and there will be this year too, unfortunately in the current climate I'm finding EL speedway very expensive and not great value for money. However the love I have for my team will probably see me go to the majority of the meetings again. Edited December 22, 2012 by GRW123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I don't see it like that at all GRW, for me Vincent simply has a problem with rules not being followed (as his regular contributions on Poole threads shows), and I'm afraid in this instance our club appears to have offered Puk a deal without his parent club's permission. I agree that the asset system isn't ideal but the cart is being put before the horse here, its no good ignoring the rules, getting rumbled and then saying that the asset system should be abolished. And while I agree that Mr Frost is dragging his heels a bit now as the rules stand he's perfectly within his rights to make everyone sweat as long as he pleases, he holds all the Aces. As I've said before there are over three months until Lynn's first EL match, and I'm sure it'll all be sorted in plenty of time. To answer screamer, an extra pound won't make too much difference to me although there were a few meetings last year that I didn't attend (mainly the ones on Sky) due to cost and there will be this year too, unfortunately in the current climate I'm finding EL speedway very expensive and not great value for money. However the love I have for my team will probably see me go to the majority of the meetings again. The club in hindsight should never have mentioned at the supporters meeting they have / want Niels at No'1 Announce the 6 & just say they're waiting on a come back from 2-3 riders. It's clear as day Swindon have spoke to Hans & Troy but they haven't put it too public knowledge. Only the 2 riders making the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 GRW123, your fast becoming a bit of a MJJ, KKS, Stevebrum as being fascinated with something, with this topic. You'll get your Niels, on loan, so relax. Come on, calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 You'll get your Niels, on loan. Without doubt you're right but don't you mean our Neils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 GRW123, your fast becoming a bit of a MJJ, KKS, Stevebrum as being fascinated with something, with this topic. You'll get your Niels, on loan, so relax. Come on, calm down. Point taken........ Happy Christmas.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Without doubt you're right but don't you mean our Neils I'm pretty sure he means your Niels Edited December 22, 2012 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I would pay £20 to watch Niels each week, But with one proviso, and that would be that we never deal with them Cats again. They have really shown their true colours.... You really do need to take your rose tinted glasses off. If it were the other way round you would still be backing your team. You could not have had it explained any clearer but still you continue to stick your fingers in your ears, la la la la la la. My team can do no wrong and if they do it was a stupid rule. This absolute biased opinion is why these forums always end up in conflict. Look at the bigger picture it contains many colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I cant understand why everyone assumes 'skullduggery' has taken place with regard to Niels, Hans,Troy. Surely its equally as likely that the riders themselves have asked or told the respective promoters (Lynn/Swindon) that they'd be happy to return, so why does everyone assume its the promoters that have 'offered a deal without permission' ? All the promoters could be guilty of is saying 'yes we'd happily have you back if possible'. Just a thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 AND quite a sensible thought, too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 GRW123, your fast becoming a bit of a MJJ, KKS, Stevebrum as being fascinated with something, with this topic. You'll get your Niels, on loan, so relax. Come on, calm down. So many missing names tho.............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 So many missing names tho.............................. Yeah I couldnt be assed to go through naming them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Yeah I couldnt be assed to go through naming them all Would be a LONG post if you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 GRW123, your fast becoming a bit of a MJJ, KKS, Stevebrum as being fascinated with something, with this topic. You'll get your Niels, on loan, so relax. Come on, calm down. It seems you say something that some Panthers fans don't like and you get compared to KKS - happened to me too We are all entitled to our opinions and I don't see why anyone has to revert to comparisons with the site's troll! I can see both points of view but choose not to attack the poster - just the post! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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