Panthers89 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 ...and Chris Louis? Never quick enough to be in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Think referee was right in giving second to Hampel. He might not have had the momentum but he got to the line first by a knobble of the tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'd take the opinion of the guys who've ridden bikes i.e. Ermolenko and Louis over yours any day. Stekkers???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Stekkers???? Que? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Is a bell end. Easy to make such statements from behind a keyboard. Would you honestly call him a bell end to his face? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Nicki P tries it on too often and refs start to go against him when the decision isn't clear cut. Entertains though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Que? Well he said Jonsson got caught up in Nicki's back wheel...didn't ee it quite so clear cut as some on here.When you get a few riders they generally have differing opinions.so your view that a riders opinion is better than someone elses.Which rider do you choose to believe.Simples.Down to which comes closest to your view,but that might not be right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Well he said Jonsson got caught up in Nicki's back wheel...didn't ee it quite so clear cut as some on here.When you get a few riders they generally have differing opinions.so your view that a riders opinion is better than someone elses.Which rider do you choose to believe.Simples.Down to which comes closest to your view,but that might not be right. And is BWitcher an ex-rider? So your point is exactly? I wasn't talking about Stekkers in that post, see earlier one for my opinion of his commentary. Add Holder to riders who thought Pedersen was out of order. Which is consensus of impartial riders, ex riders who commented on incident. Don't need opinions of others to form my own opinion. Edited September 8, 2012 by george.m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Heat 16 let's hope it's as good as it looks beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I wasn't talking about Stekkers in that post, see earlier one for my opinion of his commentary. Add Holder to riders who thought Pedersen was out of order. Which is consensus of impartial riders, ex riders who commented on incident. Don't need opinions of others to form my own opinion. Ah Holder, a rider who has done just that and worse many times this season. The fact is, folk are up in arms for one reason. It was Nicki Pedersen. Had that been Greg Hancock, who has this season pulled the same move himself, not a lot would have been said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Ah Holder, a rider who has done just that and worse many times this season. The fact is, folk are up in arms for one reason. It was Nicki Pedersen. Had that been Greg Hancock, who has this season pulled the same move himself, not a lot would have been said. No I'm not up in arms because it was Pedersen, I've watched it several times now and he was out of order, end of. Watch it again if you have the facility, and if you comment on the race, rather than resort to character assassination your argument might just carry some weight. Edited September 8, 2012 by george.m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Ah Holder, a rider who has done just that and worse many times this season. The fact is, folk are up in arms for one reason. It was Nicki Pedersen. Had that been Greg Hancock, who has this season pulled the same move himself, not a lot would have been said. Hancock hasn't had a move that's seen another rider off down the straight that I've seen. Which are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Ah Holder, a rider who has done just that and worse many times this season. The fact is, folk are up in arms for one reason. It was Nicki Pedersen. Had that been Greg Hancock, who has this season pulled the same move himself, not a lot would have been said. Keep defending the indefensible, you may end up believing yourself. Pedersen was guilty of a dirty move, quite rightly excluded. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 And is BWitcher an ex-rider? So your point is exactly? I wasn't talking about Stekkers in that post, see earlier one for my opinion of his commentary. Add Holder to riders who thought Pedersen was out of order. Which is consensus of impartial riders, ex riders who commented on incident. Don't need opinions of others to form my own opinion. Thought i spelt it out quite clearly,but you seem to have a bit of trouble understanding so....you said you believe riders over Bwitcher or presumably anyone who has a different view from you.But on pretty much every broadcast or interview riders don't always share the same opinion.So who do we beilieve?The rider that shares our opinion.I didn't say they were making your opinion up for you,just that you were picking people who share you view and say they are talking the truth.Maybe Bwitcher is or is not an ex rider.That makes no difference to you or me or if he turns out to be an ex rider will you then believe him?3 riders against 1 is hardly a consensus and hardly means they have never done something similar themselves.Ok maybe Louis never did.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hancock hasn't had a move that's seen another rider off down the straight that I've seen. Which are you referring to? Because the other riders had to shut off as Hancock closed the door. As many other rider have done so throughout the history of speedway. You've almost answered the question there though, AJ came down because he didn't shut off, he decided to contine to go for a gap that was not ever going to be there. His own error. A rider in contention for the World Championship is not going to let someone by him on the outside of the final turn. Briggs, Mauger, Nielsen, Ermolenko, Hanock, Gollob, Crump... you name a World Champion, they would have shut the door. End of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Murray doing Britain proud-leads 2 sets to 1. As for Chris Harris............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Big characters in Heat 18 let's hope we can talk about racing moves after it lol. Ok heat 18 over and just some great racing and racing moves? Agreed all? Edited September 8, 2012 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Thought i spelt it out quite clearly,but you seem to have a bit of trouble understanding so. Thanks but I have a mother already! Like others have said previously your posts lack clarity, amongst other things. The rider that shares our opinion.I didn't say they were making your opinion up for you,just that you were picking people who share you view and say they are talking the truth. No sh!t Sherlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Thanks but I have a mother already! Like others have said previously your posts lack clarity, amongst other things. No sh!t Sherlock. You seemed to have trouble understanding And it isn't as if you or your posts haven't been criticised today either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Anyway, its all part of the fun and games of sport, differing opinions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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