Crump99 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) so if you thought you was going to lose your job you'd ask your employer can I seek another job ? Yer right oh . Troy stayed loyal to Pboro only to be dropped on the following season . He allegedly decided to hold on thinking we'd run. I'm sure that he'd have been off if had had serious doubts or received a financial package which met his inflated estimation of his talents: Batchelor continued: “King’s Lynn and Birmingham both rang me and said they were moving up to the Elite League, but I decided to hold off and wait on Peterborough.“Graham Drury (the team manager of Birmingham) told me that he thought I would be left with egg on my face for doing that, but basically I didn’t really want to ride anywhere else. No other track is prepared as well as the Showground is.” (www.peterboroughtoday 21/4/11) Edited January 6, 2013 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 If we want speedway to be taken seriously as a big sport in the same way football is then rules must be followed. In football if you have a player and he no longer wants to play for you but wants to go elsewhere, then the other team has to buy him. Why are clubs trying to make it so complicated in speedway? Or they let their contract expire and leave on a free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 so if you thought you was going to lose your job you'd ask your employer can I seek another job ? Yer right oh . Troy stayed loyal to Pboro only to be dropped on the following season . I'm sure there's something in the back of the old brain reminding me of some sort of hassle regarding Batch last year. Didn't Peterborough try to contact him throughout half the close season without success? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 He allegedly decided to hold on thinking we'd run. I'm sure that he'd have been off if had had serious doubts or received a financial package which met his inflated estimation of his talents: Batchelor continued: “King’s Lynn and Birmingham both rang me and said they were moving up to the Elite League, but I decided to hold off and wait on Peterborough.“Graham Drury (the team manager of Birmingham) told me that he thought I would be left with egg on my face for doing that, but basically I didn’t really want to ride anywhere else. No other track is prepared as well as the Showground is.” (www.peterboroughtoday 21/4/11) lol the bit about no other track prepared as well as the Showground lol I,m sure Kenneth would agree with that statement lol perhaps the Showground track staff has changed since Troy said that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) lol the bit about no other track prepared as well as the Showground lol I,m sure Kenneth would agree with that statement lol perhaps the Showground track staff has changed since Troy said that ? Slightly drifting from the point here I feel? So back to why the oik might not have been a priority for the following season despite his noted loyalty - this decision was a big factor in Panthers not making the play-offs IMO and despite it all being good natured and allegedly to plan one can imagine Batch being his usual diplomatic self http://www.peterboro...-aces-1-2749055 Edited January 6, 2013 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Jack Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 If we want speedway to be taken seriously as a big sport in the same way football is then rules must be followed. In football if you have a player and he no longer wants to play for you but wants to go elsewhere, then the other team has to buy him. Why are clubs trying to make it so complicated in speedway? But in football they have a set contract period and can leave for free when it expires. If a player doesn't want to play for a team and no one wants to purchase them then that player will often rot in the reserves. Loans are also a common occurrence don't forget and if a team do not have the financial clout to purchase a player then a loan deal (used more so by lower league clubs) is preferred. Many Championship teams have gained promotion through the use of the loan system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 But in football they have a set contract period and can leave for free when it expires. If a player doesn't want to play for a team and no one wants to purchase them then that player will often rot in the reserves. Loans are also a common occurrence don't forget and if a team do not have the financial clout to purchase a player then a loan deal (used more so by lower league clubs) is preferred. Many Championship teams have gained promotion through the use of the loan system. I'm sure I've read this somewhere before!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 But in football they have a set contract period and can leave for free when it expires. If a player doesn't want to play for a team and no one wants to purchase them then that player will often rot in the reserves. Loans are also a common occurrence don't forget and if a team do not have the financial clout to purchase a player then a loan deal (used more so by lower league clubs) is preferred. Many Championship teams have gained promotion through the use of the loan system. Yes, but Swindon are not a championship side, they are elite lge champions. Your top two riders are available to purchase, so stop bickering and buy them. Perhaps Mr Frost wishes to purchase another asset, maybe Kenni Larsen, he is entitled to sell some that want away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Jack Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Yes, but Swindon are not a championship side, they are elite lge champions. Your top two riders are available to purchase, so stop bickering and buy them. Perhaps Mr Frost wishes to purchase another asset, maybe Kenni Larsen, he is entitled to sell some that want away. Firstly, I'm not a Swindon fan. Secondly get of your horse, my example of a Championship Football team relates to the loan comparison between the two sports which was being used previously by other posters. I'm sure I've read this somewhere before!!! Edited January 6, 2013 by Mini Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 is Larsen on a loan basis or has he been brought? Or they let their contract expire and leave on a free. maybe this is what the BSPA need to look at. maybe having a length to the asset contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 is Larsen on a loan basis or has he been brought? maybe this is what the BSPA need to look at. maybe having a length to the asset contract On a loan from Newcastle, permission asked, granted and deal done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 On a loan from Newcastle, permission asked, granted and deal done. Peterborough have done it the right way, causing no fuss. going to miss Kenni at Coventry wish him lots of luck with the Panthers, very dedicated rider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 peterborough dont do anything without a fuss then when they cant get their own way they threaten to withdraw from the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Peterborough have done it the right way, causing no fuss. going to miss Kenni at Coventry wish him lots of luck with the Panthers, very dedicated rider I was very suprised he was not in the Bee's plans for this year, he certainly has the potential to increase his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 On a loan from Newcastle, permission asked, granted and deal done. Easy isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 peterborough dont do anything without a fuss then when they cant get their own way they threaten to withdraw from the league You'll have to remind me when this happened. I do recall an attempt to close them down because they never went back to a session at the AGM a couple of years back ( along with another club) and I remember reading that a few more fans per meeting would be beneficial to the future of the club but I can't remember any 'give us what we want or we quit' scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Red Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 On a loan from Newcastle, permission asked, granted and deal done. Easy isn't it? it is when the club you are dealing with isn't playing silly buggers. Had Newcastle said "No, buy him or go away" would it have been so easy? Swindon asked for permission to talk to the riders, and are still waiting for a reply. So in response Peterborough decide that they will offer them contracts (knowing that they don't really want them in their team), to try & force Swindon into buying them. After the Miedzinski saga last season I'm sure you can understand why Swindon don't see the need to buy both riders, having made an offer for Hans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 So in response Peterborough decide that they will offer them contracts (knowing that they don't really want them in their team), to try & force Swindon into buying them. Perhaps Kenneth Bjerre, Linus Sundstrom, Hans Andersen, Troy Batchelor, Neils Iversen et al, should all accept the Peterborough contracts and sue them for breach of contract when Peterborough can't fulfill them? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Perhaps Kenneth Bjerre, Linus Sundstrom, Hans Andersen, Troy Batchelor, Neils Iversen et al, should all accept the Peterborough contracts and sue them for breach of contract when Peterborough can't fulfill them? Very childish comment, what have Bjerre and Sundstrom got to do with it. Tell me, why dont Swindon buy them, or do you think P'boro exist to provide riders for Swindon after investing in those riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Jack Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Very childish comment, what have Bjerre and Sundstrom got to do with it. Tell me, why dont Swindon buy them, or do you think P'boro exist to provide riders for Swindon after investing in those riders. Why don't Peterborough let them go out on loan and rake in the loan fees? If he doesn't intend on using them, only he will end up losing out (other than the riders of course). Rick can see that the asset system looks to be coming to an end so is trying to cash in before he may be left out of pocket. Thing is, Speedway is in such a financial state that clubs just cannot afford to splash the cash anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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