hans fan Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Not sure how accurate averages are.... Kenneth Bjerre 8.18 Linus Sundstrum 7.70 Ryan Sullivan 7.35 Lasse Bjerre 4.91 Norbi Koscuch 5.81 (not sure! or A.N.Other) Mikkel Beck 4.00 William Lawson 3.27 Brings us in at 41.22 sullys average is higher than that,whats he gonna do on away tracks ??? not alot would be my answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Well if those averages are right for our riders, wouldn't mind Kenneth, Linus and Lawson back. Send Buckz and Cous Cous on loan to a tight track to get there averages down. Good riddance to MJJ till older than 21, and can commit properly. Might need my head checking but wouldn't mind THJ again. Hard to say team predictions till the averages come out, but worth a few punts. Id love to see a 1+5 that id be confident in saying that we will get a heat advantage. Hopefully Jan stays on as manager, and Swales is put even further behind than he is currently. Bjerre THJ Hougaard Klindt Linus Mikkel B Jensen Lasse Team Scandinavia. Potential in Lasse, Mikel B and Hougaard [if can stay injury free] Think Klindt could do with a season away from the black country. Still doesn't give me my power duo, but lets face it, wont happen unless your names Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Interestingly concerning Sullivans average this year why is it that he started on 7.72 Sullivans last proper average from 38 matches in 2006 was 7.35, he did do 8 matches in 2008 but that was 7 home and 1 away and clearly that wasnt enough to obtain a new average incidentally his average from those 2008 matches was 6.88 In 2008 riders not starting at the starting the season but being added later had 5% added to their starting average (7.35 + 5% is 7.72) Now thats fair enough and no argument there but why was 7.72 his starting average for 2012, interesting enough someone else rode this year with a 2006 starting average, one Adrian Meidzinski 5.57 from 26 matches for Swindon, surprisingly enough he started on 5.57. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Well if those averages are right for our riders, wouldn't mind Kenneth, Linus and Lawson back. Send Buckz and Cous Cous on loan to a tight track to get there averages down. Good riddance to MJJ till older than 21, and can commit properly. Might need my head checking but wouldn't mind THJ again. Hard to say team predictions till the averages come out, but worth a few punts. Id love to see a 1+5 that id be confident in saying that we will get a heat advantage. Hopefully Jan stays on as manager, and Swales is put even further behind than he is currently. Bjerre THJ Hougaard Klindt Linus Mikkel B Jensen Lasse Team Scandinavia. Potential in Lasse, Mikel B and Hougaard [if can stay injury free] Think Klindt could do with a season away from the black country. Still doesn't give me my power duo, but lets face it, wont happen unless your names Poole. klindt probaly could do with a season away,but i hope it ain't at the showgroundtouchwood we have a sensible points limit 41.5 or 42 if it's 41 i'd be looking along the lines of hans 8.27 hougaard 4.9 sundstrom 7.87 l bjerre 4.66 k bjerre 8.18 a decent 4pt assesed pontus aspregen 3.0 just heard mr frosts interview on the radio talking about losses don't sound good for the future Edited September 20, 2012 by hans fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Interestingly concerning Sullivans average this year why is it that he started on 7.72 Sullivans last proper average from 38 matches in 2006 was 7.35, he did do 8 matches in 2008 but that was 7 home and 1 away and clearly that wasnt enough to obtain a new average incidentally his average from those 2008 matches was 6.88 In 2008 riders not starting at the starting the season but being added later had 5% added to their starting average (7.35 + 5% is 7.72) Now thats fair enough and no argument there but why was 7.72 his starting average for 2012, interesting enough someone else rode this year with a 2006 starting average, one Adrian Meidzinski 5.57 from 26 matches for Swindon, surprisingly enough he started on 5.57. Perhaps they took a 28 match rolling average?! If not, its obvioulsy a matter of who you know not what you know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 sullys average is higher than that,whats he gonna do on away tracks ??? not alot would be my answer Interestingly concerning Sullivans average this year why is it that he started on 7.72 Thought it was odd. klindt probaly could do with a season away,but i hope it ain't at the showground pontus aspregen 3.0 Klindt had a season away at Swindon last season. Hopefully Pontus or Jacob (or both) will be commited to Wolves thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambpanther Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Also heard the interview with rick frost. things dont sound good and if he doesnt pull out this year i'll be pretty shocked. hopefully its just a reaction to missing out on the play-offs and rethinks everything Also heard the interview with rick frost. things dont sound good and if he doesnt pull out this year i'll be pretty shocked. hopefully its just a reaction to missing out on the play-offs and rethinks everything http://audioboo.fm/b...20-09-12#t=0m0s here it is Edited September 20, 2012 by Panther2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris41 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) A link from the local press: http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/speedway/panthers-future-thrown-into-serious-doubt-1-4286439 As a Panthers fan it would be a sad day as the EOES is a great venue but you cannot expect a businessman to keep losing money. It has been fantastic to have an owner that has invested heavily into the team however if the crowds aren't there especially due to the economic climate or other reasons then in my eyes it is a no brainer! I just don't think the City itself is particularly interested in their local sports teams as no matter how much promotion you do, even if the local Posh football team is doing rubbish the crowds at the championship level is shameful!! Edited September 20, 2012 by Boris41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 to be honest if panthers need 2000 to break even theres no hope whatsoever the only slim chance they'd have of getting those figures is regular/weekly friday nights and a sucessfull side and that just ain't gonna happen at the showground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencebel Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Gutted & upset, but at the end of the day don't blame him at all. I would like to Thank him from for all the hard work he has done for Peterborough Speedway.................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 A link from the local press: http://www.peterboro...doubt-1-4286439 As a Panthers fan it would be a sad day as the EOES is a great venue but you cannot expect a businessman to keep losing money. It has been fantastic to have an owner that has invested heavily into the team however if the crowds aren't there especially due to the economic climate or other reasons then in my eyes it is a no brainer! I just don't think the City itself is particularly interested in their local sports teams as no matter how much promotion you do, even if the local Posh football team is doing rubbish the crowds at the championship level is shameful!! A tough time for Speedway clubs, but it seems like its the new thing to threaten to pull out. Lets hope all those clubs struggling find a way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmau5 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 http://audioboo.fm/boos/969412-rick-frost-on-his-future-at-the-peterborough-panthers-20-09-12#t=0m0s Not sure how accurate averages are.... Kenneth Bjerre 8.18 Linus Sundstrum 7.70 Ryan Sullivan 7.35 Lasse Bjerre 4.91 Norbi Koscuch 5.81 (not sure! or A.N.Other) Mikkel Beck 4.00 William Lawson 3.27 Brings us in at 41.22 I doubt you'll even have a team to support next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencebel Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 After being a speedway fan for 46yrs, if speedway is lost at Peterborough then that is it for me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 It is sad to hear that Frost is considering pulling out of the sport, but how long will it be before the BSPA realise the sport in this country needs a major rethink to secure the future. We have to cut the material to fit the cloth and the days of spending silly money on top riders have gone. We need to understand if the sport cannot be run profitably then there’s little point in running at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 It is sad to hear that Frost is considering pulling out of the sport, but how long will it be before the BSPA realise the sport in this country needs a major rethink to secure the future. We have to cut the material to fit the cloth and the days of spending silly money on top riders have gone. We need to understand if the sport cannot be run profitably then there’s little point in running at all. Its a point thats been made many times before but the BSPA do not appear to be able to all pull in the same direction. This sport needs radical surgery and has done for years but it just wont listed to its supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Its a point thats been made many times before but the BSPA do not appear to be able to all pull in the same direction. This sport needs radical surgery and has done for years but it just wont listed to its supporters. It would be sad to see the Panthers fold. I always felt when running on Fridays the crowds was always better and therfore more fiable. If it means the future is without the GP stars then so be it and revert back to them good ole days. At Lynn last Monday we had a terrific meeting with racing of the highest order. There was nothing at stake and only 1 GP rider on show. It proved to me me you don't need those top rider stars to put on an attractive meeting. The supporters will follow the team, not the rider. I'm sure there is a future for Speedway in this country, but like you say, a major rethink is needed...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasthedog Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Might PL racing be more viable? More regular racing, lower expenses and less conflict with foreign leagues/GPs. I know some would say "I only want to see the best riders" however we really don't get that in the Elite now anyway. Also, there would be an awful lot of local Derbys for betting travelling support too. Just a thought! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahoho Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Cheaper entry. Seriously that has kept me away almost all season and its terrible because I love speedway & I love the panthers! I would hate to see it go, but I cant afford £50 a week for me and the mrs to come down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Cheaper entry. Seriously that has kept me away almost all season and its terrible because I love speedway & I love the panthers! I would hate to see it go, but I cant afford £50 a week for me and the mrs to come down... Ever thought of buying a season ticket, almost a must have for a Panthers fan given our fixture list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english roundabout Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 It would be sad to see the Panthers fold. I always felt when running on Fridays the crowds was always better and therfore more fiable. If it means the future is without the GP stars then so be it and revert back to them good ole days. At Lynn last Monday we had a terrific meeting with racing of the highest order. There was nothing at stake and only 1 GP rider on show. It proved to me me you don't need those top rider stars to put on an attractive meeting. The supporters will follow the team, not the rider. I'm sure there is a future for Speedway in this country, but like you say, a major rethink is needed...... Supporters just want to see competitive racing and a good product. The minute they feel they are being ripped off, that's where they vote with their feet. If the racing is good, then they will return. I don't believe if there are no gp riders, fans won't come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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