65Sarge Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 @batchattack1: Peterborough seem to be getting a few riders on load for 2013, but aren't letting any of THEIR assets out on LOAN.. #doublestandards I for one cannot work out why Peterborough are not allowing all of their assets to talk to other clubs, understand if they are still potentially wanted at the showground, but surely they can't want all of them?? It does look like they are playing silly buggers to make a point, and whilst they are doing nothing wrong, it does make them look like a petulant child? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 will add extra spice when the panthers come to the NA... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Fisher on 5.27 is plain wrong. Â He should be on 6.02, his 2011 EL average. Â Oh dear, is someone trying to fiddle the rules?? Â Seriously tho, we know that they will allow whichever average suits, such is the madness of applying the rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Were on earth did 5.27 arrive from???? Â He gets a 12.5% discount for being a danger to other track users!! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I think Meridian Lifts has that honour. Â How you crack me up. We treat our staff well and have a good reputation in our industry, pity pboro dont in theres We sponsored them and got treated badly, never mind the sponsors are beating the doors down to the extent the owner has to sponsor it themselves Lets hope you get more than the normal 10 people in for 2013 as you may even make a profit Just proves the city dont want you or the fans or the show ground really. Lets see who is around in 10 years time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) Exactly how many promoters/riders have p***ed you off?? I think I got that the right way round!!! Edited December 24, 2012 by Skidder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 How you crack me up. We treat our staff well and have a good reputation in our industry, pity pboro dont in theres We sponsored them and got treated badly, never mind the sponsors are beating the doors down to the extent the owner has to sponsor it themselves Lets hope you get more than the normal 10 people in for 2013 as you may even make a profit Just proves the city dont want you or the fans or the show ground really. Lets see who is around in 10 years time  At least you're not bitter, that's the main thing!  @batchattack1: it does make them look like a petulant child?  Has to be quote of the day coming from Batchelor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little-End Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 So the Panthers sign Ryan Fisher there second LOAN signing you couldn't make it up  Bet your bottom $$$ there`ll be more , Love the average the Fish is on tho !!! How does that happen ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 That average cannot be correct unless more rule changing has gone on. Still, best of luck to Ryan. Perhaps this is the season he will kick on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieE Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 The Fish is a steal for Peterborough on that average! Think Peterborough could be quite strong. Hope Coventry can get the same rule applied for Roynon and Summers, might actually get a decent third heatleader then! Even a Brit reduction for Roynon would be nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 So the Panthers sign Ryan Fisher there second LOAN signing you couldn't make it up Don't they believe in using their assets? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Panthers cheat again unless there's an amendment for 2013 the World isn't allowed to see??? Â 17.2.5 Where a Rider has a 2011 PL MA and a 2010 EL MA due to transferring Clubs before the 2011 season, then the EL MA will apply if transferring to the EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) When I read some of these comments I do wonder where all the hate comes from. Born in Peterborough and Panthers are my team but I can honestly say I do not dislike any other Elite League club. I find it a bit odd how certain people seem to hate Peterborough Panthers so much. Yes the rules are rubbish and they can be manipulated but they always have been and probably always will be. Edited December 24, 2012 by Warren2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Panthers cheat again unless there's an amendment for 2013 the World isn't allowed to see???  17.2.5 Where a Rider has a 2011 PL MA and a 2010 EL MA due to transferring Clubs before the 2011 season, then the EL MA will apply if transferring to the EL.  Stekkers has just Tweeted this rule exists but just change the Years (2012 PL - 2011EL), so how on earth has the average arrived at 5.27???  Before any stats rule 17.2.4:-  Where only one (EL or PL) average has been established the previous season, then that is the Average used, converted where necessary as per SR 17.2.2 for both Leagues whether full-time or Doubling-Up.  Surely that one come in if no average had been attained by a rider in either league in any previous season but it seems as though the Panthers are running with 17.2.4 and not budging  Basically 17.2.4 & 17.2.5 contradict each other, brilliant rule making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Â Don't they believe in using their assets? they believe in having first refusal I. Their assets before another club which is quite within their rights. Could field a team full of loan riders if they wish. Makes no difference to the current debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Don't they believe in using their assets? Â They said that they were going to try to use their assets which is somewhat different and clearly a difficult concept to grasp for some, probably those without many or any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 They said that they were going to try to use their assets which is somewhat different and clearly a difficult concept to grasp for some, probably those without many or any! probaly the riders they've signed are cheaper than there own assets ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 probaly the riders they've signed are cheaper than there own assets ??? Â Could indeed be one of numerous reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 When I read some of these comments I do wonder where all the hate comes from. Born in Peterborough and Panthers are my team but I can honestly say I do not dislike any other Elite League club. I find it a bit odd how certain people seem to hate Peterborough Panthers so much. Yes the rules are rubbish and they can be manipulated but they always have been and probably always will be. Â Hate is a strong word Warren 2. I have been a member of this forum for just over a year and i have seen no evidence of 'hate' towards the Panthers. Frustration maybe, certainly in recent times, but certainly from where i sit, the Showground is a brilliant place to watch speedway. Excellent track and viewing. Perhaps you are getting 'hate' and 'dislike' confused with rivalry or on the odd occasion, a bit of envy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champs99 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 @batchattack1: Peterborough seem to be getting a few riders on load for 2013, but aren't letting any of THEIR assets out on LOAN.. #doublestandards I for one cannot work out why Peterborough are not allowing all of their assets to talk to other clubs, understand if they are still potentially wanted at the showground, but surely they can't want all of them?? It does look like they are playing silly buggers to make a point, and whilst they are doing nothing wrong, it does make them look like a petulant child? Bucko, Sullivan......both free to talk to other clubs!!!! Why on earth should they let ALL their assets talk to other clubs before they have finalised their team? The mentality of some posters on here is unbelievable.......or is it just envy? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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