hans fan Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Just tried to get back on topic, no need for the roll of the eyes wasn't getting at you ,more at the lack of official news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 If P'boro did / do have the choice of Bjerre, Puk or Hans then its surely got to be Bjerre every time, as he has by far the best chance of increasing his average of the three IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) If P'boro did / do have the choice of Bjerre, Puk or Hans then its surely got to be Bjerre every time, as he has by far the best chance of increasing his average of the three IMO. I think that your opinion is correct in that respect. Edited December 17, 2012 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 wasn't getting at you ,more at the lack of official news Fair play :-) well atleast we have 2 riders, 3 really Bjerre is obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'd like to see a rider take the BSPA to task on this - because it is effectively preventing riders from earning a living. This is against EU law and could finally put an end to the asset system! Wonder if a rider feels brave enough? Show me a law, EU or otherwise, that says a bloke already employed in a well-paid job in two or three other countries is entitled to a job over here. I'd suggest the reason this hasn't been challenged is because the riders concerned have little chance of success having agreed to become assets of their parent clubs with everything that entails - whatever that includes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Especially when the riders you want are someone elses assets. Oh the irony of a Poole fan saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Oh the irony of a Poole fan saying that. But not denied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 The point being that the Panthers paid a transfer fee for him so why shouldn't Lynn? I also believe he would have been in the Panthers plans this year (a lot more reliable and consistant than Bjerre) had he not already agreed terms with another club without the Panthers permission, so who could that be? I think you'll find that Lynn had offerred the loan fee for him this year, with the view to purchase him next year. They didn't want him for nothing. Panthers are on a win - win situation. The exact fee Panthers paid for Niels is unknown, but it is thought, that has been recovered many times over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Just tried to get back on topic, no need for the roll of the eyes... Hope Larson proves me wrong. Hoping Fisher does go cov. Buzz next please Hougaard next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Hougaard next? Strong rumours suggesting he will be a Panther so maybe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Show me a law, EU or otherwise, that says a bloke already employed in a well-paid job in two or three other countries is entitled to a job over here. I'd suggest the reason this hasn't been challenged is because the riders concerned have little chance of success having agreed to become assets of their parent clubs with everything that entails - whatever that includes. There isn't a law which restricts the number of part time jobs someone can have - even if they are in several EU member states. Which means that by not allowing a rider to sign for another team when you have no intention of using all of them IS against the law! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Oh the irony of a Poole fan saying that. Wondered how long it would take :-) perhaps Boro should go to tribunal as Swindon did last year. There isn't a law which restricts the number of part time jobs someone can have - even if they are in several EU member states. Which means that by not allowing a rider to sign for another team when you have no intention of using all of them IS against the law! All Rick Frost is doing at the moment is refusing permission for teams to talk to his assets until his team is sorted, nothing wrong with that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 All Rick Frost is doing at the moment is refusing permission for teams to talk to his assets until his team is sorted, nothing wrong with that. No I don't suppose there is. ........ But when will it become a problem. You say he doing 'nothing wrong', but lets say we move forward, the time is late February and Rick Frost is still refusing permission to talk to his riders, Would you still be saying he's doing.nothing wrong. The problem with any system is when rules allow that system to be used for something it was not intended to be. There should be guidlines in place to say Clubs have to announce the asset they well be using by a certain date, and the rest are free to move too wherever. Like I say the system badly needs overhauling..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 No I don't suppose there is. ........ But when will it become a problem. You say he doing 'nothing wrong', but lets say we move forward, the time is late February and Rick Frost is still refusing permission to talk to his riders, Would you still be saying he's doing.nothing wrong. The problem with any system is when rules allow that system to be used for something it was not intended to be. There should be guidlines in place to say Clubs have to announce the asset they well be using by a certain date, and the rest are free to move too wherever. Like I say the system badly needs overhauling..... Quite agree, unless there are extenuating circumstances (such as waiting on a riders injury)there should be a time frame, however I think this particular dispute has arisen due to other circumstances and Frost has just had enough of other promoters getting in on his assets before he's had a chance to put a deal on the table (and yes Poole were just as guilty last year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 There isn't a law which restricts the number of part time jobs someone can have - even if they are in several EU member states. Which means that by not allowing a rider to sign for another team when you have no intention of using all of them IS against the law! You obviously know the regulation you're talking about. For the benefit of those that don't maybe you'd be kind enough to quote it because I've found nothing suggesting that what Peterborough are doing to be against any rule - legal or within the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 There isn't a law which restricts the number of part time jobs someone can have - even if they are in several EU member states. Which means that by not allowing a rider to sign for another team when you have no intention of using all of them IS against the law! Can you prove they have no intention of using them ? if not then i doubt your have much of a case .Not a fan of what Frost is doing but he quite within his rights . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 It has nothing to do with that at all. If Bjerre has signed for his Polish team I don't see why it should be allowed for Peterborough to "drag their heels" over making the others available when they clearly can't use them! If they're so keen to use their assets, why are they signing riders on loan from other clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) If they're so keen to use their assets, why are they signing riders on loan from other clubs? Averages and rules I'd imagine or we'd have used our assets and you and others would probably be looking for scraps! Edited December 18, 2012 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Can you prove they have no intention of using them ? if not then i doubt your have much of a case .Not a fan of what Frost is doing but he quite within his rights . Yes - because the rules suggest that they can only sign 2 in the top 20 and they already have 1 so why are 4 others being held in limbo for 1 team spot! With regards the law - I suggest that if any rider wants to take the legal route then they will have more than a very strong chance of winning because you cannot stop someone from earning a living - no matter what the speedway asset system says! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Maybe because they havent decided who to choose between Andersen, Bjerre and Batchelor!!! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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