mdmc82 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Better than Ljung, Bjarne, Andersen, Harris & Bjerre .... he will be in NO doubt whatsoever What gives you that idea? Bjarne maybe but the others have all beat tai several times in the EL this season home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 By that token Bomber beat Nicki on Saturday Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho3a Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 No Brits.... I think the Wild Cards are pretty much done and dusted already for next year !! Hampel, Vaculik, Darcy Ward ( Although i dont agree he should just get in, Should at least go through the qualifying process ) & Either AJ, Lindback or Michael Jepsen Jensen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 No to Woffinden, if he was waring a Aussie race jacket he wouldnt get in behind Crump, Holder and maybe even Ward...They speedway GP's need a british represenative but this is the only reason why Tai would get in! None of our riders are good enough to qualify out of merit this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiej95 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Should he be in the GP's. In a word, no. None of the Brits do at this moment. HOWEVER, He is easily the best Brit for the job IMO. Highest averaging rider in EL and other leagues, + he has age on his side. Watching him week in week out I can easily say he is much better than people on here seem to be suggesting. In the Elite League he is bettered by only a handful of riders. Abroad, his performances this season certainly suggest that he can beat the best regularly. His Polish Ekstraliga average of 7.06 is fairly good, and his form since he returned from injury would certainly suggest he can do much better than that. In Sweden, he is 4th in the Averages (although after only 3 meetings) and has proved in that division what he is capable of. So in short, does he deserve to be in the GP's? NO Would it be a shocking decision and a calamity if he was chosen? NO Would he be completely outclassed in the GP's? NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 No Brits.... I think the Wild Cards are pretty much done and dusted already for next year !! Hampel, Vaculik, Darcy Ward ( Although i dont agree he should just get in, Should at least go through the qualifying process ) & Either AJ, Lindback or Michael Jepsen Jensen Don't forget Iversen who is having a very good season. Third best scorer in Polish Ekstraliga and first in the Swedish Elitserien. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmau5 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I've spoken to Tai and he's openly said to me (and others) that he would "consider" the SGP IF invited, but only if he had the sponsorship behind him. I think any Brit will incur cost, so it's key to have backing. Personaly, I'd like to have a British racer in the series, I think without one we'd lose more interest in the sport. The 'top 16' is becoming harder each year, and I've often wondered why they don't allow four more riders in and make it the top 20. I think they'll become a point when a top talent will be not included because they've limited the series to just 16 riders, Often the GP qualifiers is represented by someone who failed in the series previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 No Brits.... I think the Wild Cards are pretty much done and dusted already for next year !! Hampel, Vaculik, Darcy Ward ( Although i dont agree he should just get in, Should at least go through the qualifying process ) & Either AJ, Lindback or Michael Jepsen Jensen A lot will depnd on Gorican and the GP qualifier at the end of September. I still cannot beleive that Pavlic gets a wild card for 29th September having already been knocked out and it's on his dad's track. It makes you wonder what logic is applied to running the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerald tyke Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) How many "blasts" has Tai had at it then ??? How many blasts has he had at the BF too and done nothing??? Tai's been to Cardiff for the "experience" is it 2 or 3 times even though he's had one ride in 2008.....but personally I'd just like to see a different name there, be it Cook or whoever instead of Woffinden,Nicholls, Kennett, Stead, Barker etc as I don't think Tai is a major talent ahead of anyone else and so why should he be given automatic place? Its the same old names riding for Gb, introduce a few of the younger lads and let them have a go. Same as regards Harris as his form not been great in Gps past few years......lets introduce a bit of new blood, they definately cannot be any worse!!! Will be a pity if not Brit in Gps Edited August 28, 2012 by emerald tyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 How many blasts has he had at the BF too and done nothing??? Tai's been to Cardiff for the "experience" is it 2 or 3 times even though he's had one ride in 2008.....but personally I'd just like to see a different name there, be it Cook or whoever instead of Woffinden,Nicholls, Kennett, Stead, Barker etc as I don't think Tai is a major talent ahead of anyone else and so why should he be given automatic place? Its the same old names riding for Gb, introduce a few of the younger lads and let them have a go. Same as regards Harris as his form not been great in Gps past few years......lets introduce a bit of new blood, they definately cannot be any worse!!! Will be a pity if not Brit in Gps Woffinden was in the GP series in 2010, scored 49 points in total. IMO he's still not ready for the GP circuit and would fair no better than Harris. There are many better and more deserving riders out there worthy of a GP place, unfortunately non of them are Brits, but then we don't have a god given right to have a rider in the GP's, and in all honesty it wouldn't make much difference if we didnt have one at the moment. We'd still get the token Brit for Cardiff, but that's pretty much all we deserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 How many blasts has he had at the BF too and done nothing??? Tai's been to Cardiff for the "experience" is it 2 or 3 times even though he's had one ride in 2008.....but personally I'd just like to see a different name there, be it Cook or whoever instead of Woffinden,Nicholls, Kennett, Stead, Barker etc as I don't think Tai is a major talent ahead of anyone else and so why should he be given automatic place? Its the same old names riding for Gb, introduce a few of the younger lads and let them have a go. Same as regards Harris as his form not been great in Gps past few years......lets introduce a bit of new blood, they definately cannot be any worse!!! Will be a pity if not Brit in Gps And how many times has he been leading the British final before either being taken out or someone else causes the race to be stopped and Nichols or Harris has gone on to win the rerun? Woffinden just needs that little bit of luck that other riders seem to get, a bit like getting a wild card pick for the final of the qualifiers that is to be raced at Wolverhampton as a hypothetical scenario perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixy230 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Am afraid to say Harris/Nichols great racers, rubbish to inconsistant gaters! We might as well try the young blood! What have we to lose? Would they have scored less points than Harris this year so far? I doubt it (Great racer but soooooooo frustrating!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I don't see Woffinden that far in front of some of the Brits I still think Harris is the best when he is on decent equipment.?Cook and Auty are the best long term prospects out of the REST in my opinion.Even those two have a long way to go,but both are on the up and have both improved a he'll of a lot.Cook is a better gater but Auty is a better racer and can pass on a regular basis as his gating isn't the best.Woffinden too me has to have a season when he rides regular no injuries shows a bit more consistency then he might deserve something at the moment I would say no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 ?Cook and Auty are the best long term prospect Mind Craig is 3 years older than Tai... Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Mind Craig is 3 years older than Tai... Niamh But Craig has pretty limited exsperience ,at speedway thou certainly at a high level.Age means nothing John tiger Louis proved that was he aged 29?when he started speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Who's likely to have a longer future a 22YO or a 25YO? Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Who's likely to have a longer future a 22YO or a 25YO? Niamh If only it was that simple....which it isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 No? just compare their EL averages... Craig is currently several years away from GP standard, that's not to say that if picked Tai would be a storming success. Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 No? just compare their EL averages... Craig is currently several years away from GP standard, that's not to say that if picked Tai would be a storming success. Niamh How will comparing their averages show who will be riding longer? iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I hope we're not looking for a future Joe Screen who just keeps on riding at a gradually reducing standard; mind good luck to him, he must still be enjoying it. Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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