Shadders Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 i think after this season spend a bit to get the fans back through the gates! need to at least challenge for play-offs. shame about Auty always rides well around Rye could be a good assest. It's a vicious circle Hodgie. Build a team cheaply and crowds will be low, sign a couple of top marque riders and they will return but ONLY if the club is properly promoted. By that I mean a total rethink of admission prices. Family tickets, a proper bar, efforts made to get stay away fans to return, a total revamp of the tired looking programme and a rethink of the match day presentation. Maybe a suggestion box by the turnstiles to see what the people really want. This winter is a marvellous opportunity to drag Rye House Speedway out of the doldrums. Let's hope it's not wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I think they should play Those Magnificant Men in the flying machines on the Victory parade as well. Gives a sense of continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) I think they should play Those Magnificant Men in the flying machines on the Victory parade as well. Gives a sense of continuity. Stick it in the suggestion box, or better still just stick it! Edited September 14, 2012 by Shadders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolly Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I think they should play Those Magnificant Men in the flying machines on the Victory parade as well. Gives a sense of continuity. Money Saving Ideas for Len. 1. Instead of having all those noisey Motorbikes and expensive riders - Continue with having the track staff and marshalls paraded around the track to the strains of 'Those Magnificent men in their flying machines' then two hours of of us all gripped with excitement watching Terry the start marshall check the starting gate and tapes, maybe a little practice of red flag waving, formation shale spreading from the buildup near the kick boards and finish off with a cescendo of Len driving round grading the track. 2. Saturday morning fishing contest in the river 'Lea' as most of the minnows caught will be just about the right size to be battered and sold as fish and chips in the Chippie. 3. Maybe some static exhibits of things like 'Bike Maintenace' from Steve Boxall, or tours of track from Tommy Allen showing all the spots where he fell off (if time is available), maybe Charlie G could give us a slide show of what I did during the summer (because he hasn't been at Rye House much.) The kids could have fun with a metal detector trying to find the non-metallic parts of Lukes legs (I am sure that he doesn't go to hospital anymore but Kev has got a big Meccano set at home ))). Its been a bad season in most respects, injuries, weather and results. But it can only get better next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) I think The Rye presentation lost its way when the Dog racing ceased at Hoddesdon. It was always good viewing to watch Uncle Lennie toss that £2 coin onto the dog track and watch x number of kids scrabbling around in amongst the dog sh1te trying to get it. Pure box office that. Edited September 14, 2012 by semion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Money Saving Ideas for Len. 1. Instead of having all those noisey Motorbikes and expensive riders - Continue with having the track staff and marshalls paraded around the track to the strains of 'Those Magnificent men in their flying machines' then two hours of of us all gripped with excitement watching Terry the start marshall check the starting gate and tapes, maybe a little practice of red flag waving, formation shale spreading from the buildup near the kick boards and finish off with a cescendo of Len driving round grading the track. 2. Saturday morning fishing contest in the river 'Lea' as most of the minnows caught will be just about the right size to be battered and sold as fish and chips in the Chippie. 3. Maybe some static exhibits of things like 'Bike Maintenace' from Steve Boxall, or tours of track from Tommy Allen showing all the spots where he fell off (if time is available), maybe Charlie G could give us a slide show of what I did during the summer (because he hasn't been at Rye House much.) The kids could have fun with a metal detector trying to find the non-metallic parts of Lukes legs (I am sure that he doesn't go to hospital anymore but Kev has got a big Meccano set at home ))). Its been a bad season in most respects, injuries, weather and results. But it can only get better next year. A work of genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I think it will take a winning team and some modernisation in presentation to get the fans back at Rye..To be fair bad luck has been a major problem this season,,,,But when support has been lost it is difficult to get back without a complete revamp of ideas ..Here,s hoping ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 the problem is, if you splash the cash on a decent team and the fans still don't come, you go bust just like newport. some speedway venues just go past their sell by date. i hope rye isn't one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 the problem is, if you splash the cash on a decent team and the fans still don't come, you go bust just like newport. some speedway venues just go past their sell by date. i hope rye isn't one of them. I think Len is made of tougher stuff than the Newport promotion.. ,, But i get your point,,its a hard one to fathom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 the problem is, if you splash the cash on a decent team and the fans still don't come, you go bust just like newport. some speedway venues just go past their sell by date. i hope rye isn't one of them. If you don't splash the cash you have a pony team, no one comes and you go bust too, vicious circle really. Len is the most experienced promoter in the game, compared to the Mallets at Newport who struggled. These things are cyclical, we'll be back on top soon, let's just hope the presentation steps into the 21st century! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 If you don't splash the cash you have a pony team, no one comes and you go bust too, vicious circle really. Len is the most experienced promoter in the game, compared to the Mallets at Newport who struggled. These things are cyclical, we'll be back on top soon, let's just hope the presentation steps into the 21st century! i felt a bit embarressed last night being asked to go round on the parade truck to wave to the riders! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Well, thanks Plymouth getting beat by Newcastle tonight we've avoided the wooden spoon... Happy days!!!! Edited September 21, 2012 by Shadders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHayes Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Doyle 9.12 Davies 5.48 Mellgren 6.46 Nielsen 4.72 Grajzconek 7.43 Garrity 4.57 Campton 4.72 = 42.5 Edited September 21, 2012 by Richard Hayes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statman Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Doyle 9.12 Davies 5.48 Mellgren 6.46 Nielsen 4.72 Grajzconek 7.43 Garrity 4.57 Campton 4.72 = 42.5 Would hate to rain on your parade, but Doyle's season finishing average will be higher than 9.12 as will Davies' be higher than the 5.48 you quote....of course some of the others might end up with lower averages than you show here, but it could well be a case of 'back to the drawing board' as far as that 7 is concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHayes Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Would hate to rain on your parade, but Doyle's season finishing average will be higher than 9.12 as will Davies' be higher than the 5.48 you quote....of course some of the others might end up with lower averages than you show here, but it could well be a case of 'back to the drawing board' as far as that 7 is concerned I'm fully aware of that. However, but based on averages at this moment in time (which are the only ones you can work with until the new averages come out) that particular team would fit within the rules. Edited September 21, 2012 by Richard Hayes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statman Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I'm fully aware of that. However, but based on averages at this moment in time (which are the only ones you can work with until the new averages come out) that particular team would fit within the rules. So what you have done is a pointless exercise as it is only the final figures that you can use when trying to construct a team for 2013, so why try doing it with figures that won't be correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketbee Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Doyle 9.12 Davies 5.48 Mellgren 6.46 Nielsen 4.72 Grajzconek 7.43 Garrity 4.57 Campton 4.72 = 42.5 No way will Uncle Len track a team with 6 foreign riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 I'm fully aware of that. However, but based on averages at this moment in time (which are the only ones you can work with until the new averages come out) that particular team would fit within the rules. The team you've suggested is as likely to be the Rye team next year as it is likely for Shadders to win this years x factor. The best way to get a decent idea of a riders average for next year is to work out how many meetings they have ridden this year, how many they are left to ride, then how many from last season will need to be counted. Take the meetings ridden this season and the amount that will be added from last year and work out the average. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 The team you've suggested is as likely to be the Rye team next year as it is likely for Shadders to win this years x factor. The best way to get a decent idea of a riders average for next year is to work out how many meetings they have ridden this year, how many they are left to ride, then how many from last season will need to be counted. Take the meetings ridden this season and the amount that will be added from last year and work out the average. Simples. No wait until the season ends, when all averages are certified and then start discussing as to who you would like to see in your team next term, that is simples, or if you are Alljack start changing it the day after the season starts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 No wait until the season ends, when all averages are certified and then start discussing as to who you would like to see in your team next term, that is simples, or if you are Alljack start changing it the day after the season starts.. It's easy enough to figure out what a riders average will be, the bspa are usually slow in releasing final figures too which doesn't help fans who want to know who they could sign for the next campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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