Rye House 2013

[emilali]

Has Allen actually been confirmed?

[SCB]

I must have missed the BSPA statement about 6 man teams

Opps. Missed Nelsons 5.5. Still makes its 4.5 short.

 

Mind you, it takes some mindless optimism to believe he's going to turn up.

Edited November 19, 2012 by SCB

[Shadders]

Opps. Missed Nelsons 5.5. Still makes its 4.5 short.

 

Mind you, it takes some mindless optimism to believe he's going to turn up.

I'm yet to be convinced. Even if he does I'm not aware that he's been racing regularly in Australia, so will be very rusty. I'm not sure how commited he is.

Rye teams have been built under the limit for years. Im sure no Rye House supporter is surprised.

[MrMungo]

Has Allen actually been confirmed?

 

The side has been confirmed on the BSPA website, so one would assume so.

[Ben91]

9+6.5+5+4.5+4+3.5=32.5. That's 10 points short. I accept I'm estimating averages but no way am I 7 points out.

 

It's a piss poor team, it's seriously bad, even allowing for massive improvement in Garrity and Mellgren. Just who else is going to put points on their averages? This 7 riders will not hit a combined 40 by October.

 

Didnt they get a draw in the PT?

 

The line up comes to 39.92, only gotta improve by 0.8

 

It's an exciting team full of potential. A number one who will do the job home and away. Mellgren can make the step up to be a strong heat leader whilst we will always have two strong reserves. Granted I'd have preferred another 7 pointer as opposed to Lamber perhaps but that is the team we have and I think we will be in the mix come the end of the season.

 

[hooversquash]

If all else fails....

 

I spoke to Luke yesterday. He is seeing his specialist in the next couple of weeks, but early indications are his leg is healing quickly. He estimates the metal rod will be removed early June next year, leaving him available to get back on a bike. He still thinks he can do a solid job in the main body of the team, but it's that old chestnut about 'paying the bills'. He's now had three seasons with injurys that have prematurely curtailled his involvement in league speedway and hit the pocket accordingly.

 

With his engagement to Rachel, I think he is now better suited in looking to carve out a new career off the track, instead of having bits carved off of him! With his level of enthusiasm, he would always be usful to someone in the pits?

[semion]

Really disappointed to see only one of the Allen brothers in The Rye House line-up.

[Chris]

Good base to start from with Mellgren, Nelson, Garrity and Lykke, but as usual Silver has finished a side off awfully.

 

Another Allen at Rye? Olly has only a little bit more ability than Tommy. A real gating tart. Lets hope he is sharp from the gate as he certainly won't be doing any passing. Very likely to get injured as well and be out for long spells as has happened throughout his career. A very meh signing as your supposed stand out performer at number one. Kennett should have been the main target.

 

Lambert? We have 7 points and he signs Simon Lambert. Sums Silver up. Lost his marbles years ago and nowhere near the limit again. The comment about not even looking at the averages/point limit is laughable.

 

Some saying this side will challenge are deluded. Mid table/lower half written all over it.

Edited November 20, 2012 by Chris

[bolly]

Okay, so putting my positive hat on I think we have a team which if rides to its potential can be in the mix for top half of league next season and maybe an outside chance of a play off spot.

1. Ollie Allen, On his day is as good as any number 1 named or likely to be in the league next year, must keep his head together as I have seen meetings in which he has just disappeared and recently has become a bit injury prone
   
2. Jason Garrity, Enthusiasm and skill in bucket loads, crowd favourite, must temper enthusiasm just a little sometimes. Use brain as well as balls )))
   
3. Tyson Nelson, a bit unknown again as to how he has spent last season, hope he can slot back in quickly to where he was when he last raced for Rye. He was looking a 6.5/7 rider at that point.
   
4. Jason Bunyan, good to see he says that he has sorted his head and his gear, now lets get back to the old JB and get the average up by a point or so ))
   
5. Anders Mellgren. Totally agree with Shadders and others that this guy is going to be a class act by the end of the season, looks to be in the Linus Sundstrom school of thinking, but just needs to polish up on a few things to follow Linus's class act.
   
6. Jasper Lykke Nielsen The guy is as fast as most heat leaders around the track, but you cannot give other riders a second or two start from the gate. As we all say once the gating is sorted, watch him go.
   
7. Simon Lambert I am not his biggest fan but he made big strides at the end of the season and came in at a difficult time for us. Hope next year he can push on and be our key rider on bigger fast tracks and improve on the tighter more technical ones.
   

 

Plenty to look forward to next season and as long as we dont have the dreadful injuries we had last year I think the entertainment on track will be top quality.

[Phil Silvers]

I have to agree it looks poor. Why does he build his teams so far under the limit EVERY year?

 

Birdsong....

 

CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP

[gusworld]

The team put together has a lot of potential but is seriously lacking in 'big hitters'. Only Allen can fit the bill and the rest are currently second strings with maybe Mellgren stepping up to a 7/7.5 average.

[bolly]

According to the article in today's Hoddesdon Mercury regarding the proposed test match at Rye House next year. It states that the Aussie team will feature the likes of Jason Doyle, Sam Masters, Kevin Doolan and Dakota North. Does this mean that the test match/series will be a PL level series or are the real Aussie Stars all washing their hair that night ??

[Shadders]

According to the article in today's Hoddesdon Mercury regarding the proposed test match at Rye House next year. It states that the Aussie team will feature the likes of Jason Doyle, Sam Masters, Kevin Doolan and Dakota North. Does this mean that the test match/series will be a PL level series or are the real Aussie Stars all washing their hair that night ??

I thought as much. Makes it a little less attractive

[bolly]

Might as well make it a Rye House/Ex Rye House team to race the Aussie second strings.

 

Tai

Danny

Eddie

Olly

Stuart

Rob Mear/ Adam

Jordan/Leigh

 

Nobody I really think would do much better at Rye ?

 

Maybe Bomber, Cookie or Josh ?

Edited November 20, 2012 by bolly

[Reddan]

I'm normally on here defending the rockets from unfair criticism, but this time i'm looking at that team and thinking " boy is it gonna be a long season, with some real spankings on our travels". If the real reason for such a weak team is financial then you do have to wonder if mocking Len for this side makes us the foolish ones if other clubs spend beyond their means and have a great season but arent around to revel in it the year after. You'd hope people continue to support the club, but we all know that its success that brings crowds in minority sports.

[wjm]

Rye are like a lot of sides that are announced early IMO, some sides announce early and look exceptionally weak, or strong, over the course of the winter they normally balance out a bit.

 

I don’t think that will be a bad side at all in the PL next season, I would expect to see a lot of sides of similar strength.

 

If I was an EL side I would be making the addition of Mellgren to my squad a priority.

[Shadders]

Red Dan makes a good point. None of us know how the finances of speedway work. We don't know what the weekly turnover is. Neither could we know how much goes out in riders wages, flights and the costs of running the stadium.

 

Do we really want the promotion to do a Newport. Gamble on a trophy winning side with no guarantee that the crowds will turn up?

 

Far be it for me to defend Silver, I'm obviously not on his Christmas card list, but perhaps this is the best he could do with the finances available.

[Phil Silvers]

I can never understand why the points limit is less than half the available match points? Speedway is getting a weaker product year on year with novice/reserves two seasons ago now in the main bodies of teams with little or no progress on track. This just makes the higher scoring riders in the PL redundant as they are deemed to have too high an average for the PL for team building and there are only so many places available in teams in the EL. Why not make teams built on a 50 point average or 60 points there only 90 points available to score so I cant see the problem, it would feature a lot of the better skilled riders around the tracks,.....or am I missing something?

[tocha]

According to the article in today's Hoddesdon Mercury regarding the proposed test match at Rye House next year. It states that the Aussie team will feature the likes of Jason Doyle, Sam Masters, Kevin Doolan and Dakota North. Does this mean that the test match/series will be a PL level series or are the real Aussie Stars all washing their hair that night ??

 

They could be riding in a GP somewhere I suppose.

 

I can never understand why the points limit is less than half the available match points? Speedway is getting a weaker product year on year with novice/reserves two seasons ago now in the main bodies of teams with little or no progress on track. This just makes the higher scoring riders in the PL redundant as they are deemed to have too high an average for the PL for team building and there are only so many places available in teams in the EL. Why not make teams built on a 50 point average or 60 points there only 90 points available to score so I cant see the problem, it would feature a lot of the better skilled riders around the tracks,.....or am I missing something?

 

Rider's averages are based upon what they score in each ride multiplied by four. Therefore you have to largely discount points scored in heat 15 thus deducting six points from the meeting total, arriving at 84, 42 points to each side.

[bolly]

Posted Today, 03:23 PM

 

bolly, on 20 November 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

 

According to the article in today's Hoddesdon Mercury regarding the proposed test match at Rye House next year. It states that the Aussie team will feature the likes of Jason Doyle, Sam Masters, Kevin Doolan and Dakota North. Does this mean that the test match/series will be a PL level series or are the real Aussie Stars all washing their hair that night ??

 

 

They could be riding in a GP somewhere I suppose.

 

I didn't realise that Davey Watt, Rory Schlein, Troy Batchelor, Jason Crump and Ryan Sullivan were in the GP series this year )))

 

Phil Silvers, on 20 November 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

 

I can never understand why the points limit is less than half the available match points? Speedway is getting a weaker product year on year with novice/reserves two seasons ago now in the main bodies of teams with little or no progress on track. This just makes the higher scoring riders in the PL redundant as they are deemed to have too high an average for the PL for team building and there are only so many places available in teams in the EL. Why not make teams built on a 50 point average or 60 points there only 90 points available to score so I cant see the problem, it would feature a lot of the better skilled riders around the tracks,.....or am I missing something?

 

 

Rider's averages are based upon what they score in each ride multiplied by four. Therefore you have to largely discount points scored in heat 15 thus deducting six points from the meeting total, arriving at 84, 42 points to each side.

 

A higher points allowance creates an imbalance between the better off and the poorer clubs, the clubs that can afford 3 out and out heat leaders will grab the cream of the crop, pay them all on number ones money and can still have resonable second strings and reserves.

With a lesser figure at least a club has to make a choice of either top heavy or even averaged throughout.

Edited November 20, 2012 by bolly