lucifer sam Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) DOUBLE DOSE OF ACTION FOR SAINTS THERE is a double dose of action for the Jotun Paints Scunthorpe Saints this weekend. The Saints quartet of Tom Young, Oliver Greenwood, Danny Phillips and Tommy Fenwick compete in the National League Fours at Stoke on Sunday afternoon (4pm). The Saints then entertain third-placed the Isle Of Wight at the Eddie Wright Raceway in the National League on Bank Holiday Monday afternoon. The clash forms the second half of a double header, following a Premier League encounter between the Scunthorpe Scorpions and the Somerset Rebels (start of Premier League match: 3pm). Gary Irving will not ride at Stoke on Sunday. Stuart Parnaby explained: “Gary had a bad crash with Jason Garrity at Mildenhall last Sunday, while he was guesting for Dudley. “He was knocked about a bit – his arm is still a bit swollen. The priority is getting Gary fit to race for both the Scorpions and the Saints on Monday, so therefore I won’t be using him at Stoke in the Fours. “We are not going to Stoke to win it. But it will be good experience for our lads, to ride in one of the big meetings of the National League. “I notice a team who have signed a rider for this meeting. I won’t do that; I don’t think it’s quite right that a rider makes his debut in the Fours, having not competed in any league matches for his club. We’ll take along our normal lads and see what they can do.” The main business of the weekend for the Saints is the visit of the Isle Of Wight on Monday. Parnaby said: “I’d love for the Saints to win our remaining three home meetings. It would ensure that there is no chance of us finishing bottom, despite tracking a very inexperienced team this season. “That’s all I wanted from this season – for us to avoid the wooden spoon. The fantastic away win at Buxton went a long way to us achieving that. And then we can have another shot at winning some honours in 2013.” The Saints currently sit in fifth place out of eight teams in the National League, while the Isle Of Wight are in third. “The Islanders certainly won’t be easy to roll over”, commented Parnaby. “They have some experienced riders in their ranks. On the other hand, we’ve got four riders in their first season. “But our riders are very much on the up. For example, Max Clegg had a great meeting in the individual at Redcar last week. Our riders are becoming more-and-more confident all the time, and I feel we can beat the Islanders on Monday.” Dudley’s Tom Perry will guest at No 1 for the Saints on Monday. Perry will also ride in the preceding Premier League meeting for Somerset. Monday’s adult admission price for the double-header is just £16 for 30 heats of speedway. With two cracking meetings in prospect, it should be a great day for any travelling fans. Premier/National League Double Header Admission Prices: Adult: £16.00 Student/OAP: £14.00 Child (10 - 16): £5.00 Child (0 - 9) Free (accompanied by paying adult) Family Ticket £37 (2 adults, 2 Children 10-16) Match Programme: £1.00 Teams for Bank Holiday Monday (English unless stated): Henderson Insurance Scunthorpe Scorpions: 1. Kevin Wolbert (Germany) (guest), 2. Thomas Jørgensen (Denmark), 3. Nick Morris (Australia), 4. Ashley Birks, 5. Josh Auty, 6. Michael Palm Toft (Denmark), 7. Gary Irving. Somerset Rebels: 1. Jason Doyle (Australia), 2. Alex Davies (Australia), 3. Jesper B Monberg (Denmark), 4. James Wright, 5. Sam Masters (Australia), 6. Kyle Newman, 7. Tom Perry. Jotun Paints Scunthorpe Saints: 1. Tom Perry (guest), 2. Tommy Fenwick (Scotland), 3. Tom Young (Wales), 4. Max Clegg, 5. Gary Irving. 6. Danny Phillips, 7. Oliver Greenwood. Isle Of Wight Islanders: 1. Danny Warwick, 2. Ben Hopwood, 3. Mark Baseby, 4. Aaron Baseby, 5. Kyle Hughes or R/R, 6. Danny Stoneman, 7. Paul Starke. Isle of Wight Islanders at EWR Ave Ave Best Name Lge M R Pts BP (no BP) (w BP) Performance Aaron Baseby NL 7 31 21 3 2.71 3.10 5 + 2 from 5 rides (2006) Mark Baseby NL 6 27 34 2 5.04 5.33 10 from 5 rides (2007) Ben Hopwood NL 14 61 81 9 5.31 5.90 10 + 2 from 5 rides (2008) Kyle Hughes NL 7 29 39 4 5.38 5.93 13 + 1 from 5 rides (2010) Paul Starke NL 4 14 8 2 2.29 2.86 3 + 1 from 4 rides (2008/2009) Danny Stoneman NL 2 10 10 1 4.00 4.40 10 + 1 from 7 rides (2011) Danny Warwick NL 5 24 33 3 5.50 6.00 13 + 1 from 6 rides (inc 4 pts T/R (2005)) Other Notes Aaron Baseby Member of Bournemouth's National League Championship and National League KO Cup Winning Teams in 2009. Member of Mildenhall's National League KO Cup Winning Team in 2011. Mark Baseby Member of Bournemouth's National League Championship and National League KO Cup Winning Teams in 2009. Member of Mildenhall's National League KO Cup Winning Team in 2011. Ben Hopwood Ex-Scunthorpe Saint (2008) Member of Plymouth's Conference Trophy Winning Team in 2008. Kyle Hughes Member of Mildenhall's Conference League Championship and Conference Trophy Winning Teams in 2004. Member of Oxford's Conference League Championship Winning Team in 2005. Member of Plymouth's Conference League KO Cup and Conference Trophy Winning Teams in 2008. Member of Plymouth's National Trophy Winning Team in 2009. Paul Starke Member of Plymouth's Conference League KO Cup and Conference Trophy Winning Teams in 2008. Member of Plymouth's National Trophy Winning Team in 2009. Danny Stoneman Made his National League debut for Plymouth in 2007. Danny Warwick Member of Bournemouth's National League Championship and National League KO Cup Winning Teams in 2009. Isle of Wight Islanders' 2012 Results 31 March 2012 CH A L Isle of Wight 44 Stoke 46 06 April 2012 KOC A L Isle of Wight 46 Rye House 49 10 April 2012 CH H W Isle of Wight 57 USA Future 33 01 May 2012 KOC H W Isle of Wight 58 Rye House 31 (On agg:- W 104 - 80) 08 May 2012 CH H D Isle of Wight 45 Stoke 45 (On agg:- L 89 - 91) 15 May 2012 NL H L Isle of Wight 41 Mildenhall 49 20 May 2012 NL A W Isle of Wight 50 Buxton 40 22 May 2012 NL H W Isle of Wight 48 Stoke 42 12 June 2012 KOC SF A L Isle of Wight 32 Dudley 60 19 June 2012 NL H W Isle of Wight 51 Rye House 42 07 July 2012 NL A L Isle of Wight 37 Stoke 58 10 July 2012 NL H W Isle of Wight 53 King's Lynn 40 15 July 2012 NL A L Isle of Wight 30 Mildenhall 63 24 July 2012 NL H L Isle of Wight 29 Dudley 61 31 July 2012 NL H W Isle of Wight 49 Buxton 44 07 August 2012 NL H W Isle of Wight 55 Scunthorpe 37 09 August 2012 KOC SF H L Isle of Wight 15 Dudley 21 (Abd: On agg:- L 47 - 81) 21 August 2012 NT H W Isle of Wight 51 Buxton 39 Isle of Wight Islanders' Results at EWR 05 June 2009 NL W Scunthorpe 42 Isle of Wight 53 06 August 2010 NL L Scunthorpe 55 Isle of Wight 39 NB: 2011 fixture at Sheffield (stats courtesy of John Eyre) Edited August 23, 2012 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 And the farce contiinues, guest for a retired rider.Absolute joke. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 And the farce contiinues, guest for a retired rider.Absolute joke. Junior Just consider the guest to be for Steve Worrall, then. Steve Worrall has a broken leg. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 And the farce contiinues, guest for a retired rider.Absolute joke. Junior Since when has Steve Worral retired?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Looks like the Islanders will be giving a debut to Steven Jones, signed to replace Kyle Hughes. I remember him failing to score for Newport last season & only lasting one meeting as a consequence, but did pretty well 'guesting' for the Saints earlier in the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Been flying in the Scunthorpe Amauter meetings also. good signing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Since when has Steve Worral retired?? Try doing some research, team declerations on the 24th of august, Scunthorpe number 1 JERRAN HART. The farce continyes. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Don't get to watch much NL but took in the double header today and very much enjoyed it. Really impressed with Oliver Greenwood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Match winning Performances from Greenwood, Clegg and Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Try doing some research, team declerations on the 24th of august, Scunthorpe number 1 JERRAN HART. The farce continyes. Junior Try reading it again you will notice we are currently using numbers 2-8 in the list and the top average rider of them is steve worrall who is out (The rules do not state which of your 8 riders have to be used as long as within the limits making the lineup have Worrall at the top therefore eligible for a guest!). Its called rules and adapting to them like all teams do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 This was a very good meeting and it gives great pleasure to see the SAINTS take a win, considering we have 4 riders in their first N/L year. ..... Well done Saints! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Try reading it again you will notice we are currently using numbers 2-8 in the list and the top average rider of them is steve worrall who is out (The rules do not state which of your 8 riders have to be used as long as within the limits making the lineup have Worrall at the top therefore eligible for a guest!). Its called rules and adapting to them like all teams do You are correct , but the guest facility is only available for your number 1 in the current declared teams which were redclared on the 24th. So i call it taking the p--- Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 You are correct , but the guest facility is only available for your number 1 in the current declared teams which were redclared on the 24th. So i call it taking the p--- Junior Correct you can only use your guest for your number 1 but read the following rules 17.9 A NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE Team’s initial Declaration will consist of a squad of 8 Riders, of whom the highest 7 Riders by MA must not exceed 40.00 points (for 2012, 2013 & 2014) with the 8th Rider’s MA not exceeding that of the lowest Rider in the top 7. 17.9.1 It must also not exceed 40.00 points when re-declared (permanent or temporary) except where the MA of the introduced Rider is equal to, or lower than the Rider being replaced. So How do you know that the lineup doesnt have a temporary declaration made before a meeting placing steve at number 1 and the number 8 into the team. This temprary declaration then allows the guest upto the average of Steve. There is nothing to state how often this can be done As i said its all about using the rules to your advantage although we could just make a permanant redeclaration without jerran and still do the same but i suppose they have their reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Juniorfan may i ask which team you follow?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 You are correct , but the guest facility is only available for your number 1 in the current declared teams which were redclared on the 24th. So i call it taking the p--- Junior I'm still not sure the point you're trying to make. The Saints are having to use guests, due to the broken leg sustained by Steve Worrall. The fact that the guests actually have to be for Jerran Hart is down to the rules regarding NL squads, which the Saints can't do anything about - we don't write the rules. But, at the end of the day, it is because a rider is injured (Steve Worrall) that the Saints need to use guests. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 premier league meeting a bit wet and tricky to start with but much improved after grader went out frequiently moving the dirt round national league meeting started in fairly good conditions but deterated as grader didnt go out once leaving no dirt on track it may have been run on tarmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I was glad the NL meeting was run quickly (55 minutes, I think) - the rain was on its way. There were a few spots around Heat 12/13, and then the rain started properly after the completion of the meeting. If there was any hanging about, we wouldn't have got to the end of the meeting. Really enjoyed the NL meeting on Monday. Nice that Oliver and Tom got to strut their stuff in Heat 15, while Max Clegg is such a talent - he is so steady on the bike. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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