Dekker Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) workington to sign sam masters, as long as he can have a new teddy for comfort. looks like he wont get the chance to stuff royno at sommerset this year, cos he is still a romper kid. l.m.a o if we do sign the teddy boy. i'm sure auntie sue with throw him a choccy or 2 for comfort, Masters will feel right at home. Edited August 24, 2012 by Dekker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 In this weeks Speedway Star, reporting on the World Under 21 at Coventry, Sam says "Ive been pretty low on confidence lately due to crashes. I keep hurting myself and it doesn't help" Sam came back from injury early (perhaps too early) to ride at Somerset and you could see he was struggling, but it proved his commitment to the Rebels. Sam was also the only reason Somerset won a trophy last year winning the Premier League Riders Championship, so you are losing a fans favourite, not usually a smart move, unless their form has dipped alarmingly. On my calculations (which are usually wrong) we have an away match at Scunthorpe, two away matches in Premier Trophy, assuming we get through the semi final and three aways in the Play Offs assuming we progress. That's six away matches and Sam would miss one on October 13th. So I have to ask who do you think on all known form shown so far would score more points away at the remaining five away matches, Sam or Jesper? Replies on a post card please! Assuming Alex and Tom are signed next year, they are both still eligible for the under 21 competitions. If one or both show improvement and progress, will they be shown the door if they miss Rebels matches? The problem lies with the powers that be arranging matches in different countries with no thought or co operation with those clubs affected. I hope Jesper gets a max on Monday and you will be pleased to know this is my final thoughts on the subject. I'm with you on this one OT. I don't feel there's much difference in scoring potential between Sam and Jesper for the remaining fixtures, even if Sam were to miss one or two meetings, so seems slightly shabby treatment of a loyal servant for the past 2 years. Likewise with the Pairs snub. Must be more to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Sedgmen is full time EL with Lakeside, not a D/U Not true. A rider named in a PL 1-7 at the start of a season may continue in a DU capacity unless the EL side in which he is named subsequently redelares their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english roundabout Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Absolutely amazed masters has been dropped. There must be more to it than meets the eye. Masters has loads of potential. Sure, he has half an eye on poole, but incredible decision to drop him. End of rebels chances for silverware this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Absolutely amazed masters has been dropped. There must be more to it than meets the eye. Masters has loads of potential. Sure, he has half an eye on poole, but incredible decision to drop him. End of rebels chances for silverware this year. Don't think its got anything to do with us. As for your second part, really, you think so!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WORKINGTON WON THE PAIRS AT ZUMMERZET . on an away track as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 If Sam rides for a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday track same scenario, he will miss meetings for under 21s. Also is it any co incidence that his mechanic is Travis Mcgowan's old mechanic and he looked slow last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WORKINGTON WON THE PAIRS AT ZUMMERZET . on an away track as well. Most of the PL teams were decimated by injuries. Edited August 26, 2012 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Completely baffled by this decision, granted Masters has not progressed from last season but still a heat leader, and some of his poor form (by his standards) was due to riding with an injury. He is or was a Somerset asset, and was hyped up when he was signed by the promotion, and as a young rider can only progress further and improve his average. Jesper on the other hand is past his best and understandably has struggled on away tracks he has never rode before. Explains why Sam was not being included in The Pairs.. The official version is Sam would be missing matches due to his under 21 commitments. He is at Tanow on September 15th so would miss Somersets home match against Workington, but it's a PL match and would not affect Somerset qualifying in the top two, and Somerset have enough fire power to cover with R/R. The other meeting is in Pardubice on October 13th which on the Rebels fixture list is an Open meeting, perhaps the Premier Trophy? Sams last two matches in the seven match series are in November so don't affect anyone. Kyle, Tom and Alex were in the British under 21 and have missed meetings, the KO Cup home defeat springs to mind. So knowing the fixture list at the start of the season it makes you wonder why this has just become a problem. There is no guarantee that Claus will return to his best quickly after yet another injury, and on paper this makes the team weaker and virtually guarantees we won't win the League this year. We can only hope that Jesper rides the away track better when we finally, (if we ever do), race the Premier Trophy final Perhaps its something that he wouldnt agree too, anyone else gone missing at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Most of the PL teams were decimated by injuries. yep, thats true. leucester were missing, no one. somerset were missing masters,their own choice. scunny were missing david howe. and workington were missing richard laweon . rye didnt even have two decent riders to put in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 yep, thats true. leucester were missing, no one. somerset were missing masters,their own choice. scunny were missing david howe. and workington were missing richard laweon . rye didnt even have two decent riders to put in. In this weeks Speedway Star there is a full page colour add for The Pairs. It says " Featuring the top ten pairs in the Premier League." Should have read "The top ten pairs that are available on the night." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) yep, thats true. leucester were missing, no one. somerset were missing masters,their own choice. scunny were missing david howe. and workington were missing richard laweon . rye didnt even have two decent riders to put in. In such a hurry to post that rubbish you couldnt even spell your own riders name! Do you really believe all that rubbish, or just on a wind up? Go away, have a think about it and come back when you've a clue Edited August 26, 2012 by Shadders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 To be fair Sam has not scored to his full potential this season and seemed at times to be just going through the motions without the will to win a race, maybe he needs to mature a little more and up his game or else I can see his career in the UK being very short lived To be fair SS I don`t think it`s quite as bad as that,he is a talent and will progress.I believe the management when they say it was a numbers game about three into two won`t go. In their opinion,and remember they see a lot more of the lads than we do, this was the best option open to the team at this time,All riders go through tough times, it`s a bl**dy tough sport and riders are sometimes plying their trade in a lot of pain.As I stated previously he has had some nasty offs this term which must affect your form and mind set. If he joins another team in the Prem I wish him all the best, and would love to see him back at the OTA next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 yep, thats true. leucester were missing, no one. somerset were missing masters,their own choice. scunny were missing david howe. and workington were missing richard laweon . rye didnt even have two decent riders to put in. So you admit that other sides were weakened, while you were strengthened? I don't believe you would have won with Lawson in place of Roynon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 So you admit that other sides were weakened, while you were strengthened? I don't believe you would have won with Lawson in place of Roynon They wouldn't have won with them two anyway had lindgren not loaned Rene his bike for the semis and final still you can only beat what's in front of you I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) yep fancy bringing in your 3rd averaged rider to fill the gap left by a number 1. laween or laweon, you still know who i was talking about. Edited August 26, 2012 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 What's this got to do with Vissing in Masters out anyway?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 To be fair SS I don`t think it`s quite as bad as that,he is a talent and will progress.I believe the management when they say it was a numbers game about three into two won`t go. In their opinion,and remember they see a lot more of the lads than we do, this was the best option open to the team at this time,All riders go through tough times, it`s a bl**dy tough sport and riders are sometimes plying their trade in a lot of pain.As I stated previously he has had some nasty offs this term which must affect your form and mind set. If he joins another team in the Prem I wish him all the best, and would love to see him back at the OTA next year. I believe that I am being very fair; Sam has been a totally different rider this year compared to last season he seems to have lost the fire in his belly and believe me I am not the only one to comment on this during the last couple of months. I have watched him at every meeting at Somerset that he has ridden in this season and IMO he was of a lesser standard than he was at the start of the 2011 season. I understand that he has had a couple of injuries this year and maybe he did return before he should have or maybe he should have sought further medical advice and returned with 100% fitness. It must have been a very tough decision to take but I can understand why they went the way they did. I sincerely hope that he gets fixed up very soon as speedway needs the likes of Sam and I am positive that he will visit the OTA with another team and kick our derrières Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Most of the PL teams were decimated by injuries. Typical post from you again . Makes no odds who was decimated , on the night only Redcar had the misfortunes of having to use a NL so all the rest were PL riders so the best pair won on the night . simple . Back to the thread Doyle is a class act can't take that away from him even though I'm not a fan but feel Somerset would have been better keeping Masters and sidelining Wright , but to be fair they have a strong 1-7 with either and will be strong contenders for the PL title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 . WELL SAID MARRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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