T.N.T. Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 On 8/31/2013 at 6:04 PM, Hougaard Racing Fans said: TNT - I suggest you understand how the rule book works. I understand the rules but injuries like those suffered by Ben Barker, Peter Karlsson and Jacob Thorssell are not something you can fake, so changes should be allowed under these circumstances, especially when they happen a week before the cut off date. We would all rather watch seven riders take on seven riders and now the play offs are going to be guests and r/r on virtually all the teams. Not good TV and not good for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 On 8/31/2013 at 7:00 PM, T.N.T. said: I understand the rules but injuries like those suffered by Ben Barker, Peter Karlsson and Jacob Thorssell are not something you can fake, so changes should be allowed under these circumstances, especially when they happen a week before the cut off date. We would all rather watch seven riders take on seven riders and now the play offs are going to be guests and r/r on virtually all the teams. Not good TV and not good for the sport. I can see under-performing riders just before the play-off's "Getting injured magically" and new riders coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 On 8/31/2013 at 7:31 PM, Hougaard Racing Fans said: I can see under-performing riders just before the play-off's "Getting injured magically" and new riders coming in. Who are these riders ? If the clubs think they are underperforming wouldn't they just replace them anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) On 8/31/2013 at 7:00 PM, T.N.T. said: I understand the rules but injuries like those suffered by Ben Barker, Peter Karlsson and Jacob Thorssell are not something you can fake, so changes should be allowed under these circumstances, especially when they happen a week before the cut off date. We would all rather watch seven riders take on seven riders and now the play offs are going to be guests and r/r on virtually all the teams. Not good TV and not good for the sport. It wasn't good for Belle Vue when Bjerre was injured in 2005 but rules should be applied consistently. We had to get on with it and lost the final as a result. Edited August 31, 2013 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Tai should be World Champ now after the bad injury to Emil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Think we need to be a bit more positive, if that's possible under the circumstances. OK it's a major blow losing Jacob but as Tully & Fricke showed us last monday, make the right choice and you're cooking with gas. It's just the people who are doing the choosing that worry me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 New riding order for the BV match lets hope it works out looks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Birmingham are going to finish top and will get to pick who they want in the semi final. Swindon and Wolves are safe while Lakeside, Poole and Peterborough battle it out for the last spot. If Poole win at Belle Vue, then they will go through. If they fail, Panthers should make it by winning their two remaining home matches. Not too sure how long Covatti is out for, but he has an average much the same as Jacob's so Wolves need to plan in advance to get the right guest for the right track. Rohan Tungate has a PL average lower than 7.35 but has an EL average above Jacob's 4.41. This is the same with Ulrich Ostergaard, Aaron Summers. In the other direction, Kozza Smith has a PL average slightly too high but his EL; average is well under Jacobs average. Which average is used ? ...... Can Wolves use Summers ? ..... Can we use Smith ? We know we an use Nicolai Klindt and think he may be used in most matches. ....... unless Brumies book him !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 On 9/3/2013 at 5:41 AM, T.N.T. said: Birmingham are going to finish top and will get to pick who they want in the semi final. Swindon and Wolves are safe while Lakeside, Poole and Peterborough battle it out for the last spot. If Poole win at Belle Vue, then they will go through. If they fail, Panthers should make it by winning their two remaining home matches. Not too sure how long Covatti is out for, but he has an average much the same as Jacob's so Wolves need to plan in advance to get the right guest for the right track. Rohan Tungate has a PL average lower than 7.35 but has an EL average above Jacob's 4.41. This is the same with Ulrich Ostergaard, Aaron Summers. In the other direction, Kozza Smith has a PL average slightly too high but his EL; average is well under Jacobs average. Which average is used ? ...... Can Wolves use Summers ? ..... Can we use Smith ? We know we an use Nicolai Klindt and think he may be used in most matches. ....... unless Brumies book him !! Ruddy hell TNT! I was feeling a bit more positive after last night's unexpected win. Then you point out that we'll need to look carefully at booking guests as others, probably Birmingham, may be looking at the same ones. That would require forward planning on the behalf of the promotion. Oh lordy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Has anyone heard anything more about PK and his recovery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 He was well enough to fly home last week but still has a long road ahead. Has a metal rod in his back I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 2013 FINAL ROLLING AVERAGES 9.20 Tai Woffinden 8.94 Fredrik Lindgren 6.14 Adam Skornicki 5.78 Ty Proctor 5.35 Ricky Wells 5.11 Robert Miskowiak 4.61 Jacob Thorssell 4.48 Ludvig Lindgren 2013 ONLY AVERAGES 9.25 - 9.93 ... Tai Woffinden 8.78 - 9.59 ... Fredrik Lindgren 6.92 - 8.76 ... Ty Proctor 6.24 - 6.80 ... Adam Skornicki 5.23 - 5.95 ... Ricky Wells 4.67 - 5.51 ... Jacob Thorssell 4.49 - 5.34 ... Ludvig Lindgren 2.33 - 2.67 ... Robert Miskowiak The Averages for just 2013 matches shows how much Wolves went off the pace once Ty Proctor was injured as he was never truly replaced and while R/R was ok in some meetings, Wolves really needed a top class replacement like Peter Ljung, Mikkel Michelsen or Daniel Nermark if they were to carry on leading the table and in the end, Robert Miskowiak was a real disapointment. It has been a decent season for Wolves but what started like a bullet out of a gun has ended a fly stuck in a spiders web. You know the end is about to come but there is no escape until you are finally put out of your misery. In a way, the season however kept some of it's optimisum going partly because of the heights that were being reached by Tai Woffinden in the GP Series and now in the space of the next few days we will see the Spider lurking from around the corner while a battered and bruised (and broken) Tai finishes off his remarkable season with the World Title. So it's virtually time to start looking towards 2014 for Wolves unless we somehow pull off a miracle at Perry Barr but sadly next season looks to be a different ball game and by all accounts it's very unlikely any EL track will be able to field two big names in the same team. At least we should see the return of Ty Proctor fully fit and possibly the return of former Wolves riders, Nicolai Klindt and Pontus Aspgren along with Wolves asset, Ashley Morris in a possible scaled down league that is more financially viable to run with more official meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 TNT - newsflash for you. Wolves season is not yet over. Tai Woffinden is not yet World Champion. Both events are likely, but you assume both are 100% certainties in this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 As much as we rail against Fat Maud when the time comes he makes decisions, pushes the rules to the edge of the envelope and, when the moment presents itself, gets the chequebook out. They are in the final, Wolves aren't. We plod along, looking no further than the end of our own asset base, doing it on the cheap, dithering and living on past glories. In the final analysis it would probably have made no difference but missing out on Michelsen said more about CVS & Adams's attitude to their paying customers than on track results ever could. Yesterday's men. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's time we got in a team manager who can actually make some tactical decisions to aid us in the meetings. It is absolutely staggering bad management the way he handled our reserves across these two legs. Once again tonight, as in the home leg, Klindt was winning races for fun from the outside gates and awful from the inside. Once again, our genius of a manager DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to take advantage of that, waiting until the final races of the meeting when we had already lost to do something. However.. I must add in defence of the team, in the main they did their jobs. The reality is we had guests who scored 5 pts and 2pts for the Worlds No 1 rider respectively. NO team and I mean NO team would cover for that. With Tai, we would have won, and with some ease. It's as simple as that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 On 9/30/2013 at 9:40 PM, BWitcher said: It's time we got in a team manager who can actually make some tactical decisions to aid us in the meetings. It is absolutely staggering bad management the way he handled our reserves across these two legs. Once again tonight, as in the home leg, Klindt was winning races for fun from the outside gates and awful from the inside. Once again, our genius of a manager DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to take advantage of that, waiting until the final races of the meeting when we had already lost to do something. However.. I must add in defence of the team, in the main they did their jobs. The reality is we had guests who scored 5 pts and 2pts for the Worlds No 1 rider respectively. NO team and I mean NO team would cover for that. With Tai, we would have won, and with some ease. It's as simple as that. The injuries have killed us, no question. Others always seem to handle them better though As for Adams, you've said it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 On 9/30/2013 at 9:51 PM, Wolfsbane said: The injuries have killed us, no question. Others always seem to handle them better though As for Adams, you've said it all. I agree, but we couldn't do anything about the last one (Woffy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Ridgeon Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Two circumstances that also didn't help us following Tai's absence were Poole making the playoffs and PK getting injured. Darcy Ward or PK would have fared better than NKI and Cook I think 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 On 9/30/2013 at 10:00 PM, Vic Ridgeon said: Two circumstances that also didn't help us following Tai's absence were Poole making the playoffs and PK getting injured. Darcy Ward or PK would have fared better than NKI and Cook I think They would.. but would either have actually been picked ahead of NKI? Darcy maybe.. NKI was the rider everyone wanted, it just didn't happen for him on the night. Cook.. that was desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 My post states that the Spider is lurking around the corner waiting to finish of its prey. That does not say it's over ...... yet On 9/30/2013 at 9:40 PM, BWitcher said: The reality is we had guests who scored 5 pts and 2pts for the Worlds No 1 rider respectively. NEWSFLASH ..... While Tai MAY be World #1 after the weekend, he isn't yet .... you are posting that this is fact when it hasn't been proved .... yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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