mtommo Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Its TAI. Poor attempt at humour. Who are these posters that over-rate him. Care to name them? :t:bwitcher loves him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) So you didn't answer the question did you mtommo. To remind you, it was 'who are the posters 'over rating' Klindt'. If you are expecting Klindt to be averaging 8pts and winning most of his races and are criticising him for not doing so, you're doing the over rating. I do find it quite amusing that some of those posters who like to attack Klindt for his inconsistency are also advocating us signing Edward Kennett! Edited August 28, 2012 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Bwitcher doesnt hype him. SO, who actually over rates him as you state? Heard people talking about it at wolves last meeting with coventry Tai himself has also joked about needing more experiance on bigger tracks Talk on the terraces? Very informative - NOT. Of course he needs more experience on bigger tracks. That is what Poland and Sweden are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Don't say I've got to dig out that post of yours I downloaded about Tai being a Wolf for the next ten years because he loves it at Wolverhampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Don't say I've got to dig out that post of yours I downloaded about Tai being a Wolf for the next ten years because he loves it at Wolverhampton. To be fair Gemini, thats a quote that Tai has made on a number of occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 To be fair Gemini, thats a quote that Tai has made on a number of occasions. He's matured since then, he doesn't say foolish things anymore! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 He's matured since then, he doesn't say foolish things anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Don't say I've got to dig out that post of yours I downloaded about Tai being a Wolf for the next ten years because he loves it at Wolverhampton. I just love the silly `ive heard` rubbish. But i stand by the quote that HE made. To be fair Gemini, thats a quote that Tai has made on a number of occasions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) Re Klindt - he's a middle order rider who has steadily progressed. Billed a wonder kid in 2007, never lived up to that and some personal reasons outside of racing may have been a factor. I would not object to him riding for Wolves next year based on who the 1-7 of the team are. He can be frustrating but he can do well as his numbers and average shows. I would say to automatically consider him nailed on for a 2013 spot shows that we are simply building a team based on assets and who can fit and lack ambition. No rider of his average should be 'nailed on,' That said I think you need to put him in catagory 'b' as far as a team place - a would be an absolute priority, b would be sign him if he fits a 1-7 that could contend, which is not just about him but who the other 6 are. The are several catagories below b including the 'never in a million years' one that Paul Thorp was a lifetime member of years ago. One thing we need to understand - its okay to let assets go for a year or more on loan. Also whilst I respect that some Wolves fans have seen enough and want rid of, I can equally respect some like the rider and want to keep him around and defend him. Whereever he rides in 2013 I would wish him well. Wolves may not be the perfect club in some respects but the rider loyalty in this day and age is astounding. Edited August 29, 2012 by SteveEvans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Completely agree with everything you say there Steve. One thing some fans should remember is, the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence. Middle order/3rd heat leader riders are in the main inconsistent. Swap Klindt out for another, you'd have the same issues. Remember Steve Johnston? Most were happy when we signed him.. just what we need, a good reliable rider. Johnno went on to produce a near identical season for us as he had everywhere else in his career, but he was slated, reason being because we saw him every week rather than just once or twice a season his inconsistency was highlighted on a more regular basis. Nicolai to me is in a similar boat to David Howe was. There is still a chance (although that chance becomes less each year) that he will breakthrough to the top echelon of riders, but in the main he is a 3rd heat leader/very good second string sort of rider. As Steve says he is the sort of rider that you wouldn't necessarily sign first (which was the problem we had with Howe, as he was consistently signed early). It should also be an average related decision.. if his average is around 7, perhaps not likely to add to that? If his average is around 6, much more attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Re Klindt - he's a middle order rider who has steadily progressed. Billed a wonder kid in 2007, never lived up to that and some personal reasons outside of racing may have been a factor. I would not object to him riding for Wolves next year based on who the 1-7 of the team are. He can be frustrating but he can do well as his numbers and average shows. I would say to automatically consider him nailed on for a 2013 spot shows that we are simply building a team based on assets and who can fit and lack ambition. No rider of his average should be 'nailed on,' That said I think you need to put him in catagory 'b' as far as a team place - a would be an absolute priority, b would be sign him if he fits a 1-7 that could contend, which is not just about him but who the other 6 are. The are several catagories below b including the 'never in a million years' one that Paul Thorp was a lifetime member of years ago. One thing we need to understand - its okay to let assets go for a year or more on loan. Also whilst I respect that some Wolves fans have seen enough and want rid of, I can equally respect some like the rider and want to keep him around and defend him. Whereever he rides in 2013 I would wish him well. Wolves may not be the perfect club in some respects but the rider loyalty in this day and age is astounding. Any chance of swaping jobs with Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Any chance of swaping jobs with Adams If I can get California weather and petrol money I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 If I can get California weather and petrol money I'm in. You've got to wait till PA wins 10 titles first.. which won't be until 2036. 1991 1996 2002 2009 2017 2026 2036 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyQ Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Tai woffinden Ricky Wells Przemyslaw Pawlicki Ryan Fisher Freddie Lindgren Jacob Thorssell Ricky Ashworth Have not got a clue what the averages would be.... decent team if it fits under the points limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Can imagine freddie still being with wolves next year esp when hes due a testimonial.However have been lots of rumours going round that tai wants a change and will be looking to ride at a different track next year. Could be interesting. Tai is totally committed to Wolverhampton and has a great relationship with the club and big sponsors who are ready to help back him next season lining up as the clubs #1 and in the Grand Prix series (if selected) .... I would go as far to say any thoughts that the club would want to loan him out are not only way off the mark but would be seen by Tai as a break in loyality ..... it wont happen and Tai WILL be back in 2013 NAILED ON !! Tai woffindenRicky Wells Przemyslaw Pawlicki Ryan Fisher Freddie Lindgren Jacob Thorssell Ricky Ashworth Just spat my coffee all over the room Pawlicki - Very good rider and bags of potential but Wolves like committed riders ...... he does not fit the bill Ashworth - Do me a favour - Would rather have Magnus Karlsson back Fisher - Can understand why some name him, but he has a higher average than Klindt, Proctor, Howe and Wells and I would much rather have any one or two of those ahead of The Fish .... (in fact would have all 4 before RF) If Wolves do start with just one 3.00 rider next season, I wonder if it will be Pontus Aspgren or Jacob Thorssell ? ..... You would think they may loan their asset out to a PL team for 2013 .... or maybe not ? Edited August 30, 2012 by T.N.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 At least the above team shows some imagination and creativity rather than the same old faces and a few Poles who have no intention of riding in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Id go with Woffy as number one and make the other 6 signings form a solid back up to him with a 5 point reserve... Would leave Lindgren out his form in the EL is slipping whereas it should be getting stronger with the EL getting weaker each year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HasseHolmqvist Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Id go with Woffy as number one and make the other 6 signings form a solid back up to him with a 5 point reserve... Would leave Lindgren out his form in the EL is slipping whereas it should be getting stronger with the EL getting weaker each year! You have more chance of Poole leaving Holder & Ward out than Wolves even considering leaving Freddie out, form is temporary, class is permanent Freddies last 5 or 6 meeting have seen him back to near his best, and next season on that nice low average he is gonna be a steal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Defos for 2013... Tai Woffinden Freddie Lindgren Nailed on for next season.... Woffy extremely loyal as he was at Rye House when he rode for uncle Len in the PL.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Woffy extremely loyal as he was at Rye House when he rode for uncle Len in the PL.... Am I missing some kind of inference here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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