Wolverhampton 2013

[HasseHolmqvist]

A little early I hear some shout, not really our real season finishes in 19 days time (it actually finished some time ago)

 

We have just 2 home meetings left, so the home season is gone in 12 days (last meeting Aces away on 10/09/12)

 

So what have we learned, who do we keep, who do we let go, who do we want etc ... yes I know we do not know the points limit and the AGM is yet to come but we all know it will be round about the same as this year. I hope CVS & Peter Adams are thinking ahead with a ballpark team in mind, they need to be for sure.

 

My Thoughts

 

Keep Freddie, Tai, Ricky, Jacob.

 

Release/Transfer Nicolai, Tyron & loan out Pontus, find Sowka a Premier League team and help him out.

 

Get in Eddie Kennett for Klindt, that would give us 5 riders, then look at the young proven talent abroad that we can draft in on 4pt averages etc and go from there.

 

Kennett would benefit from a year at Monmore and Klindt would go well at Brandon, maybe a swap deal there could benefit both teams as Eddie is as popular as a turd in a swimming pool at Coventry right now (plus we could get him to put the shelves up ready for the trophys)

 

Bit early maybe ... but our season is as good as done ... 6 meetings to go

[mdmc82]

kennett still popular with some coventry fans (def was friday) just would like him to be more consistant.

dont think many cov fans would want klindt to be fair (would rather have shamak or kennett than klindt)

 

tai on the otherhand is good at brandon

Edited August 22, 2012 by mdmc82

[DougieD]

kennett still popular with some coventry fans (def was friday) just would like him to be more consistant.

dont think many cov fans would want klindt to be fair (would rather have shamak or kennett than klindt)

 

tai on the otherhand is good at brandon

 

You have 2 chances of getting Tai, very little & none at all

[Wolfsbane]

4 Swedes??

[Brummie Kev]

find Sowka a Premier League team and help him out.

 

Might be tough as all Poles must take out an ACU Licence to ride in the PL, even then you still get riders like Stan Burza who are prepared to do that, only to find the PZM block it ( which happened recently). Too much hassle for Polish riders to ride in the PL. Loan him out to Belle Vue, I'm sure they would have him!

[T.N.T.]

Tai Woffinden is the Crown Jewels of the club and they do not want to let anyone get their hands on him and he doesnt want to go. It's likely he will finish the season as top man and would therefore start 2013 as #1 with an average around 8.7

 

Freddie is the clubs Rolls Royce. It may be 26 years old and seen better days, but it can easily been brought back to its old style and power and celebrate his testimonial with the club looking to be a 9+ rider again and again.

 

Ty Proctor is like the trusted servant of the club. Has hardly ever missed a match since starting with them and has progressed each season and likely to start next season with an average somewhere around 5.80 Not only has he served the club well, but like a roaming guard dog one minute but he can suddenly turn up and riding at #2 provide the security for Freddie.

 

 

I would be suprised if Wolves never started with either Jacob Thorssell or Pontus Aspgren next season at #7 ..... Both would be 3.00 riders.

 

 

With POSSIBLY Freddie, Tai, Ty and a 3.00 rider, it would leave around 15 points for the last three pieces and it would be a suprise if Ricky Wells wasn't back as a full asset on around a 5 average,

 

 

With about 10 points for the last two places, it could be any combination that completes the team.

 

 

Aspgren and Thorssell at reserve giving enough room for a rider like Ed Kennett to back up Tai and Freddie

 

A new 4.00 rider like Mikkel Michelsen at reserve leaving room for Doyle/Howe doubling up ? .... Zengota ? .... Nermark ?

 

It could be two riders around 5, but I cant see it so one of the two options above would be more likely.

 

 

1 = Tai Woffinden 8.80

2 = Ricky Wells 5.00

3 = Eddie Kennett 6.80 or Doyle/Howe ~ Zengota 5.80

4 = Ty Proctor 5.70

5 = Fredrik Lindgren 8.50

6 = Asprgren 3.00 or Michelsen 4.00

7 = Jacob Thorssell 3.00

 

 

That's how I think the team would look anyway

[HasseHolmqvist]

Seen a lot worse for the last couple of years, dunno why but I would really love Kennett at Wolves

[richiej95]

Sorry to sound negative but I really would not want Eddie Kennett at Wolves.

 

He is good at Monmore and he is a decent rider.

 

However, I may seem harsh but I just can't forgive his silencer 'incident'.

 

I know he has served his punishment, but I just can't help but feel that currently I wouldn't want someone who was caught cheating at my club.

 

Maybe a bit harsh but that is just how I feel right now.

[DougieD]

Sorry to sound negative but I really would not want Eddie Kennett at Wolves.

 

He is good at Monmore and he is a decent rider.

 

However, I may seem harsh but I just can't forgive his silencer 'incident'.

 

I know he has served his punishment, but I just can't help but feel that currently I wouldn't want someone who was caught cheating at my club.

 

Maybe a bit harsh but that is just how I feel right now.

 

Didnt Sam once not show for a drug test after a meeting once, Ronnie Correy once turned up and failed a breath test at the fours finals at the EOES, we have forgiven our own before. Yes he did wrong & for that very reason he will not do anything again.

 

You have a hard heart Jonesy

[stevebrum]

Didnt Sam once not show for a drug test after a meeting once, Ronnie Correy once turned up and failed a breath test at the fours finals at the EOES, we have forgiven our own before. Yes he did wrong & for that very reason he will not do anything again.

 

You have a hard heart Jonesy

 

As its a Bee a hard heart is more than OK.

[TrueBee]

I see some of you have suggested Kennett but it's out of order to suggest we could end up with Klindt in return!

[stevebrum]

I see some of you have suggested Kennett but it's out of order to suggest we could end up with Klindt in return!

 

You should be so lucky. Klindt more chance of improvement than Kennett.

 

No need of choice for me - Nic over Ed every time.

[SteveEvans]

The team needs a fresh look and we need to cast attention outside of our asset base and use our assets to potentially do mutually beneficial season long swaps with other teams where applicable.

 

2012 team failed fundmentally on two 4 point riders who were worth less than 3 between them at the time. Behind that was Freddie's dip in form and injuries to Tai and Nicolai. There is also the fact that some riders may have been there too long and the club and rider would both benefit from a change, at least for a year.

 

The way to win a title is having 2 riders having big average increases while the others at least are level or show small improvements.

 

In the 2012 team Ricky Wells fits the bill. He has been a revelation and is holding his own at #4. Wolves in fact with their 'keep the faith' policy do get riders who can go from struggler to revelation in next season - Chris Kerr 2009/2010, Ricky this year. I'd say Burmeister may have been a 4-5 rider this year too based on his pace and gating.

 

I would retain as the first order of business Freddie (testimonial year + scope to improve), Wells (seems to be able to hold his own in top 5) and Thorsell (could add numbers to a 3 point average next year and 'do a Ricky.'

 

I'd likely keep Tai but would loan him for a year if we could get a rider on a lower average who could improve to the point he does Tai's job as 2nd top rider.

 

Ty Proctor I would keep if he was a PL double upper. I think with more meetings and confidence from scoring points in the PL, he could add more numbers. If not I'd give him a year on loan but look to have him back in the future.

 

Nicolai I think is less likely but to be considered if numbers fit a balanced team.

 

Most likely I would say 3-4 max from 2012 to return. Needs more than minor tinkering based on our league position.

 

I'd go for Fisher possibly - I feel with Monmore as a home base and his ability to ride big tracks (Peterboro in Sky Match) he could add a point and break through.

 

What we can't do is simply do another hybrid of the 2009 title winning squad and the old Freddie, Tai, Nic and Ty and see who else fits. That was this years strategy and disaster ensued. We can't be too emotional in keeping our personal favorite riders but be a little colder. Its not the end of the world to loan an asset.

Edited August 24, 2012 by SteveEvans

[T.N.T.]

At present Tai has a higher rolling average than Freddie and combined its 17.04

 

 

8.60 Tai Woffinden

8.44 Fredrik Lindgren

5.97 Nicolai Klindt

5.69 Ty Proctor

5.35 Ricky Wells

3.00 Pontus Aspgren

3.00 Jacob Thorssell

40.05

 

 

Wolves could start next season with the same team, but unless there are big changes, it looks like it would be only one or two changes at most. The team places that look unsecure are Nicolai's and one at reserve as it would be likely that Freddie, Tai, Ty and Ricky would be back plus at least one 3.00 Swede .... but which one ?

 

 

With just 2 home matches (BV and Lakeside) and 3 away matches (Birmingham, Coventry, Belle Vue), chances are that averages above will drop even more, even if by just a little. .... So I would think that if they could make changes in just one place.

 

 

Would they sign a rider like Kennett 6.94, Batchelor 7.53, Korneliussen 6.90, Bridger 6.79, Gustafsson 6.43 or Nicholls 7.47 ..... to replace Nicolai and keep both 3.00 riders ?

 

or more likely, would they sign a 4.00 rider at reserve and with a slight drop expected in the averages keep Nicolai (or Miskowiak) ?

 

 

I would say it more likely a new, but more known 4.00 rider would be bought in to partner Jacob or Pontus at reserve while backing Tai and Freddie would be Ricky and any two from Nicolai, Miskowiak or Ty

 

 

When the FINAL averages are available it shoud be less of a guessing game then

[DougieD]

I think Nicolai & Tyron should be the definate movers, both should be better than they are at present but some riders just cannot take the next step. As for Ryan Fisher I would love him at Wolves, a good hard rider who cares little for reputations and could easily be a 6.50 rider in the Elite. IF we could move Nicolai & Tyron and replace them with Fisher and Kennett that would do for me

[dabbsjoe]

could we see the return of Burmeister perhaps if we can get him a PL team also

[Tommy Sweetman]

could we see the return of Burmeister perhaps if we can get him a PL team also

Yeah,and bring Stichauer back as well--not.

[sancho]

We could be looking at a higher points limit next year. Don't forget a certain south coast promoter has twins that will have a joint average of 19+ to fit in

[noggin]

The 2 over 9 rule will be implemented.

[T.N.T.]

To form a potential title winning team you need the following ingredients

 

 

You need riders that can improve their average

 

One or two riders that form a backbone for the team ..... does what it says on the tin

 

A reserve you can call on when needed, especially if using r/r

 

 

Fredrik Lindgren has ridden 22 league matches this season and has 5 left to ride. So far he has 228 points from 108 rides giving him a 8.44 average at present, If he rides in all 5 meetings left, the only score carried over from 2011 will be 11 from 5. ..... If he scores 65 out of 75 points in those remaining meetings (25 rides) he will gave an average of 8.81 next season. .... Yes his average has slipped in the last few seasons, but will it drop again next year ? ..... unlikely and it would be no suprise if he added at least half a point to it to be around 9.30

 

 

Tai Woffinden has improved every year and is averaging 8.43 this season but will have those maximums from the end of 2011 sitting on his average for a while due to the meetings he has missed through injury this season. Even if he finishes the season as #1 on an average just shy of nine points a meeting, I would think he would at least retain that next season and possibly improve it .... but will he stays as #1 ?

 

 

Those two are nailed on to be back next season and should be around 17.5 combined ..... although he is at present a Coventry asset, Ricky Wells should and wants to be back. His progression in the sport since joining Wolves has turned him from a 5 point PL rider to a 5+ rider in the EL and scoring points from the main body and not just reserve. .... However there are two concerns.

 

 

Firstly the fact that he is on loan and Coventry will no doubt use Roynon next season but they also have Josh Auty and Aaron Summers and all three are 5+ riders that also ride in the PL. Would Coventry keep all four to form two strong doubling up pairings ? ..... Secondly he has ridden in 19 matches this season and has scored 143 points from 92 rides, averaging 6.22. .... If he carries on picking up points as he is, he could end up with a rolling average just shy of 6 .... could he maintain that in 2013 ?

 

 

Jacob Thorssell started on a 4.00 and apart from one meeting on a rough track, he looked lie he was never going to really do much. However he has since put in some good displays and his showing at Poole on Wednesday proves that on a 3.00 average at reserve he could not only do a decent job in 2013 but could also improve on his average. Add him to Tai and Freddie your on roughly 20.5 with 4 spaces left.

 

 

This season Nicolai is averaging just 5.42 from his 11 matches completed but with the rolling averages he is currently on 5.97. We know he is much better than that as he has averaged around 6.5 for the last two years despite injuries. On a very simular average is Ty Proctor, averaging 5.49 this season but a 5.69 rolling average. .... I would say one of these would stay ..... but which one ?

 

 

Nicolai possibly has the best potential and could be a good third heat leader, but he is very inconsistant where as Ty is more of a good second string who is much stronger in the #2 race jacket. ...... Adding one of these two and it takes it to roughly 26.25 with 3 spaces left ad roughly 14.75 left.

 

 

With the thought of having a strong reserve possibly rules out Pontus Aspgren despite him looking a lot more comfortable since dropping to reserve. If you were to go for a hot shot 4.00 rider like Mikkel Michelsen then it would be a gamble, but you know with a rider like MM you are gettinng a rider with real potential where as riders like Sowka, Aspgren, Thorssell etc you are just hoping to uncover a hidden gem. You could however go for a safer / less interesting option of signing a rider like Ludvig Lindgren or Ricky Kling. .... Signing a 4.00 would leave around 10.75 for the final two places. So you then have to pick two from a long list

 

 

Ricky Wells 5.50 ...... would he want to double up again or wanted by Coventry ?

 

Patrick Hougaard 5.25 ..... possibly a loan deal taking Klindt or Proctor the opposite way ?

 

David Howe / Jason Doyle 5.75 ...... either as a double act or one sharing with Proctor if Ty was to double up ?

 

Daniel Nermark 5.80 ..... Former Wolf and lives close by still ..... good back up rider

 

Simon Gustafsson 6.50 / Lewis Bridger 6.80 / Mads Korneliussen 6.90 / Magic Janowski 6.20 / Eddie Kennett 6.90

 

 

 

Personally using riders listed above, my preference would probably be ......

 

1 - Fredrik Lindgren

2 - Mikkel Michelsen

3 - Simon Gustafsson or Magic Janowski

4 - Nicolai Klindt or Doyle/Proctor

5 - Tai Woffinden

6 - Ludvig Lindgren / Ricky Kling

7 - Jacob Thorssell

 

Freddie, Mikkel and Jacob the improvers

#3 and #4 could both improve but more likely provide a back bone to Tai and Freddie.

Ludvig / Kling would be a decent reserve

 

A team built more on improving but also more dominant at home.