Heathen1984 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I do wonder if dudleys team manager as a clue, y av perry at reserve and give him one extra ride, just letting them av extra points i think. Crazy. Ritching, jww and greenwood not on the pace as off yet. Great win but no where near our best with silly little mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichkev Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I do wonder if dudleys team manager as a clue, y av perry at reserve and give him one extra ride, just letting them av extra points i think. Crazy. Ritching, jww and greenwood not on the pace as off yet. Great win but no where near our best with silly little mistakes. Conditions sound a bit crap, but not sure looking at Updates it was a great win. However, well done to Dudley. Reading into the reporting looks like Mildy Kerr with 2 + 1 not where Cam would have been - shame Irving was crocked I am sure the result would have been a bit closer, Number 6 slot needs to be sorted and fast but excellent efforts from Joe backed up by Lewis and Stefan - Dan continues to be a bit of an enigma. For Dudley, Roynon being beaten twice at home, Morris & Bekker ably supporting but then comes the interesting part - Perry will move up from reserve and I suspect his average will start to slip ( apart from the extra rides also you miss the reserve switches to take out the TR like Ht 8 tonite ) and the rest? Greenwood getting a paid win when he should have been excluded ( according to Heathen Txter - and fair play for the non-bias reporting ) and very little from the rest. Is the Dudley bubble about to burst? On paper unquestionably the strongest team in the league - but are cracks appearing? Take the point though that with 7 rides for Perry the scoreline tonight could have been extended, however, a fit Cam, Dan to finish the season as he did last and a settled number 6 and Mildenhall could well yet be the better balanced side in the run out to the end of the season. Pleanty more racing to come Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Conditions wasnt great, not a good meeting. I know what your sayin but a win is a great win when u get 3 points. Your right if heeps was there wud ov been closer but also feel perry would of had 7 rides before we even got to heat 15, such a waste not using as we should, be glad to see him back in the team next week. Dudley were quite poor i think but we take the 3 points what we came for to top the table. Midly rode well But was never in it to get a point. Be good to see heeps back when we meet in play off and koc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 but then comes the interesting part - Perry will move up from reserve and I suspect his average will start to slip Yep, those two league matches he's had at reserve this season have made all the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Haha exactly what a waste of time avin him at reserve, no difference wot so ever. Be glad to av him back in the team. I know what your saying norwichkev but what riders are out there to replace daley with and surely aint gona be any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3065 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Still a pretty decent option to have rider of the quality of Tom Perry at reserve. The fact is Dudley are able to win matches comfortably without all the riders firing on all cylinders and without the team manager giving his high scoring reserve the full seven rides. It seemed like Mildenhall got going all to late in this match, showing what they could do, in terms of Blackbird and Jacobs beating Roynon after the meeting was already lost. But perhaps Dudley took their foot of the gas a bit with the meeting comfortably won. Obviously it was a blow to Mildenhall that their original choice of guest was not available and as a result, they werent able to cover Heeps' absence effectively, which would have made things a bit closer. In that case, Perry may well have had more rides. I know Bates had a couple of falls, and it probably wouldnt have made a great deal of difference, but there might be a case that he could have had an extra ride, with Halsey only scoring a couple of points. I think maybe the same could be said at times about Mildenhall not making full use of their reserves when the top five arent performing. When you're away from home without you're number one and a couple of your other riders only picking up a couple of points, its pretty difficult to get anything from a match. Dudley seemed to have more than enough about them to prevent Mildenhall from winning races until the meeting was won. I'm interested to know what the Mildenhall fans think about Ryan Terry-Daley. He was brought in with the promotion labelling him as a decent prospect, but having had a run in the side, his scores dont seem to have improved. I felt at the time it was harsh on Joe Graver, who'd got a couple of five point scores after Stoneman got injured. I see NorwichKev is suggesting the number six position needs to be sorted. So is it time to give Graver another chance, or should Terry-Daley be persisted with? Edited August 22, 2012 by neil3065 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 The weather did spoil the match a bit (I was amazed no-one tried to clear the lake from the first bend) but it was still a decent meeting with some close races and a fair bit of passing. Blackbird may hear more of his actions in heat 9. While he had every right to be aggrieved at a shocking refereeing decision to exclude him, I don't need to state how dangerous parking your bike across the track while the race is still going on is. Best I have seen Jacobs ride for a while, and there was a nice touch from the Dudley announcer at the end of the meeting to congratulate him as he had been injured in his last match at the stadium. Perry moving up from reserve will make a difference because he can't have a couple of extra rides (or block tactical changes as he did last night) but I doubt it will affect his scoring that much as he was averaging the best part of 10.00 per match before he dropped down. There's no doubt that the presence of Roynon and Morris would have made a significant difference at West Row (although I wasn't impressed with Morris last night - move him two feet away from the kerb and he doesn't know what he is doing) so would Heeps at Monmore Wood. There is every prospect of a very attractive couple of fixtures if (as expected) they meet in the play off final, with two evenly matched teams on (hopefully) two excellent racing tracks. One last point. I had the pleasure of the company of 4 Heathens fans (again) last night - dad, sons and grandson, with the little lad having his first taste of 500cc stallions. The sight of three generations all having a top night out watching the racing was enough to warm the heart of any speedway fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I do wonder if dudleys team manager as a clue, y av perry at reserve and give him one extra ride, just letting them av extra points i think. Crazy. Ritching, jww and greenwood not on the pace as off yet. Great win but no where near our best with silly little mistakes. Why give Perry 7 rides when the meeting is dead and buried? Give the other lads more track time so that they can improve.Which the Dudley management have appeared to have done Kerr was never going to get near what Cam would have got. Quite suprised Roynon got beat twice,considering he is averaging what,8 in the PL.Well done to Joe and Lew on beating him I'd give Graver another run in the side if I'm honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichkev Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Yep, those two league matches he's had at reserve this season have made all the difference. Fair play on your perception, 15+1 v Stoke from 6 and 16+1 v Mildy from 6 last night - can't argue with you on that. Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Track was really tricky last night, especially in the early stages. Credit to both teams on putting on some good racing when conditions allowed. It will be much closer when Mildenhall come back at the end of the season with Cameron on the team. We could be in for some classic encounters. Very impressed with young Bates. Spectacular style and quick when he hits the front. A good prospect. Good to see some Mildy fans there and I'm sure they enjoyed the night if not the result. We even gave 'em a round of applause at the end of the night. A fair bit of banter with none of it over the top. Credit all round - let's keep it that way. Looking forward to our next encounter with the 'Bog Moggies'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Fair play on your perception, 15+1 v Stoke from 6 and 16+1 v Mildy from 6 last night - can't argue with you on that. Kev Pleased to hear it. Joking aside, though, work it out. Those two matches (only two out of the season) equate to an average of about 10.3 and he was managing 9.5 in the team anyway. Edit: And off the top of my head I think all those matches in the team, bar one, were away from home. Edited August 22, 2012 by Fourentee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobite Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 One last point. I had the pleasure of the company of 4 Heathens fans (again) last night - dad, sons and grandson, with the little lad having his first taste of 500cc stallions. The sight of three generations all having a top night out watching the racing was enough to warm the heart of any speedway fan. Thank you for those kind words, it has been really nice chatting to you over the last couple of Dudley home matches, my nephew really enjoyed the meeting and has been pretending to be Adam Roynon today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Thank you for those kind words, it has been really nice chatting to you over the last couple of Dudley home matches, my nephew really enjoyed the meeting and has been pretending to be Adam Roynon today You too Twist your Dad's arm and come to Stoke on Sunday. I'll probably be standing with an angry pensioner from the Isle of Wight Norwichkev does that Edited August 23, 2012 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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