Mildenhall V Dudley Sun 19th Aug 16:30

[Ben91]

Yet the Roynon riding in all three leagues "debate" is dragged up in every Dudley thread. Quite amusing.

 

There seems to be a theme with some Dudley fans, I remember when they were at Rye earlier in the season a couple of blokes in their mid forties from Dudley hurling abuse across the tempstand at a couple of OAP Rye fans who in fairness don't know when to keep it shut themselves. As me and my friend stood up to leave after heat 15 the Dudley fans thought we were going to confront them, I don't think they appreciated us laughing in their faces much either.

[shad176]

Really hope Garrity is ok very nasty crash and as I saw it first hand holding the flag on the start line bad move by Irving there.

There are no dirty tatics from Josh Bates he is a young and learning and tries hard. This is supposed to be a training league so not sure how Dudley could have Roynon who rides in all three leagues. But that is another debate.

Both teams had riders missing and used a guest and R/R so seemed fair.

 

Pity some of the fans hurled abuse at our management and felt the need to laugh when riders come off. We have had a terrible tragedy this year where a rider has lost their life so it is no joke and if you heard both Garrity and Irving shouting in pain don't think you would think it funny. I can tell you it wasn't nice.

 

I made the decision after my first trip to Dudley last year that i wouldn't be back with my family as their fans hurrled insults to one of our riders. Was my worst trip to speedway so i will wish our riders well on tues and will follow online.

there are some heathens fans saying they will not go to west row anymore also which is a sad thing seen a lot worse than the blackbird/morris incident you were on about, atmosphere at west row was worse...none of this in the national sheild meeting was there ???.

[Heathen1984]

Proper fan watching updates. Yeh lets leve the roynon thing, no one is doing anythin wrong, allowed to ride so end off.

 

To be honest this meeting had became a joke a long time ago and become laughable from

Both teams. Time to move on and see all you tigers there tuesday.

Perry should be fit but who knows till tuesday!

[shad176]

Yet the Roynon riding in all three leagues "debate" is dragged up in every Dudley thread. Quite amusing.

 

There seems to be a theme with some Dudley fans, I remember when they were at Rye earlier in the season a couple of blokes in their mid forties from Dudley hurling abuse across the tempstand at a couple of OAP Rye fans who in fairness don't know when to keep it shut themselves. As me and my friend stood up to leave after heat 15 the Dudley fans thought we were going to confront them, I don't think they appreciated us laughing in their faces much either.

brought up by rye house or mildy fans repeatedly Edited August 19, 2012 by wembley81

[cradleyheathen77]

I feel that after today i need to make my first post on here.

Heathens fans on whole are a great bunch of fans who proudly support there historic team home and away myself being one of them.

Unfortunately there are always a few regular people that spoil it.

Don't get me wrong these fans love their club but show no respect to the heathens management,riders,fellow fans or opposing teams. They seem to forget that only 4 seasons ago we had nothing to support.

We are fighting a long battle to try and safeguard our future and alcohol fuelled actions like today will not help that.

[Ben91]

brought up by rye house or mildy fans repeatedly

 

 

Not by me, I can't be held accountable for other Rye fans comments, good luck to Adam and Richie Worrall riding in all 3 leagues, good to support our own riders, still, I've digressed. Damn!

[tone deaf]

First trip over to West Row this season. Interesting meeting & in Heat 13 one of the best races you could hope to see between Garrity & Irving. For 2 guest riders to show such commitment was impressive. Shame Irving had to spoil it in the run up to the line with that move but hope both riders are ok.

 

There seemed to be a couple of Dudley fans who obviously couldn't handle their drink causing a bit of trouble, one guy looking to start a fight for no apparent reason oblivious to the small kids at his feet. Don't like to see football fan type behaviour at a speedway meeting. This was a small minority of an initially very vocal Heathens contingent who were quietened down as the meeting progressed & the Tigers took control.

 

Anyway, congratulations to Mildenhall for a convincing win.

[Heathen1984]

Wasnt hard to get a convincing win against a lot weaker than normal dudley. Lets see what u can do against full strenght dusley tuesday, should be a good meeting not like the farce today

 

Dudley tuesday i meant!

[westhamboy66]

As a Rye House supporter i have to say that the Dudley fans today were a disgrace. I went just to see Jason Garrity and have no connection to Mildenhall. Right from the word go the constant barrage of "cheat" aimed at Michael Lee was mindless as was the treatment aimed at Garrity before the meeting started. The abuse aimed at Jacobs after his fall and the cheering after the highside fall by the Mildenhall reserve in heat two was disgusting as was the foul language being used which has no place in a family sport. If only the Dudley fans put as much effort into supporting their team as they put into abusing everyone else they would be a credit to their club rather than disgrace it. No wonder Jan O was shaking his head in the pits.

[secsy1]

Unfortunately Dudley do have a section of over exuberant supporters that do need to be rounded up and in no uncertain terms warned about their behaviour at Speedway.

No one can question their loyalty as the crowds at Monmore reflect this, but to alienate other supporters to the extent that they do not attend meetings is wrong.

It is time that Stewards or Police evict any trouble maker at Speedway and make it the once safe haven for any family to attend without having to run the gauntlet of abuse or threat.

[Shadders]

Yet the Roynon riding in all three leagues "debate" is dragged up in every Dudley thread.

Yeah, but he's your mate, so you're biased.

 

There seems to be a theme with some Dudley fans, I remember when they were at Rye earlier in the season a couple of blokes in their mid forties from Dudley hurling abuse across the tempstand at a couple of OAP Rye fans who in fairness don't know when to keep it shut themselves.

Cheers

[Tigertas]

_{I am a mildenhall fan and work for the club but i travel around many clubs as I have an autistic son who loves speedway. We have been to almost all of the tracks across all three leagues.We would come to Dudley to support our team but as I said last year our riders were jeered at. and Lewis had a lot of abuse shouted at him and my son got quite distressed so wont come again. The behaviour of some of the fans on bend two proved my point. I am not having a go at all Dudley fans and know every club has problems from time to time ( some more than others) You can be passionate about your team without the constent abuse. We all want our team to win and I have supported my team through good and bad times.}

_{As for the teams we was also under strength as we was missing Cam and Lewis so they evened each other out.}

 

_{I just can not understand how people can laugh and cheer after crashes you need to work on a track and then you will see how bad it is when they are shouting in pain. Both Irving and Garrity were not in a good way and credit to them they both got up and walked away. Hope they both are ok. Standing right near the crash i can tell you is well scary. Yes we all have our fav riders but I don't see how you can call yourself fans of the sport when you can cheer at crashes. I have riders i don't like but i wouldn't want to see them hurt.}

 

_{Well done to Mildenhall they rode well and I hope tues will be ok. Sure we may struggle as Dudley will have their full team but we have riders who will give it their all and try and that is all you can ask of them,}

Edited August 20, 2012 by Tigertas

[21st century heathen]

What a surprise. Heathens fans get slated in detail but the part played by the other side is somewhat glossed over, and Roynon gets a mention even though we didn't track him. Given the run-up to the meeting it was obvious there would be some tension. Booing Jason Garrity is down to now long-standing banter between him and the Heathens fans. It's pantomime stuff and he revels in it. He plays up to the crowd, especially at Monmore. It's a bit of banter, that's all. The boos for the Mildenhall management are not really a surprise and I'm quite sure Mr Lee and Mr Louis have heard it all before, if not worse 'back in the day' when big biased crowds turned up for speedway, so it's almost certainly water off a ducks back. A Dudley fan had her flag (or flags - not sure) taken down and thrown on the dog track. Two sources report hearing Mr Lee tell a Dudley rider to 'F' off back to where he came from. A Dudley fan reports he was told to 'F' off and called a 'W', and admits he reacted to it.

 

Will I sit here in judgement and label all Mildenhall fans a disgrace? No, of course not. Should Dudley fans as a collective term be slated to the extent we are? No, of course not. Every club will have a problem with some fans going over the top in one way or another. The whole issue could, and should, have been avoided. Mildenhall should not have changed the start time at late notice following a previous agreement. Dudley should not have backed down once the BSPA ruled in its favour and the having made a ruling the BSPA should have insisted on the earlier start time (if anything both clubs should be fined for not adhering to the BSPA ruling). But none of that excuses the reported behaviour of fans on both sides. I suspect the ill-feeling will rumble on for the rest of the season with a significant chance we'll be meeting again in the latter part of the season, but I sincerely hope that everyone calms down and is able to have enjoyable banter and not let it spill over into an aggressive tone. I believe both clubs now have a duty to help calm the waters and smooth things over a little. Whatever they may feel or say behind closed doors should not necessarily be reflected in public statements.

 

Now, what I'm really interested in is the racing. Can anyone report on the racing please? I'd be particularly interested to know what people thought of Ritchings and Greenwood and how they coped with riding in the top five.

 

*edit* I forgot to add that apparently a significant sum (not my place to disclose the actual amount) was donated by the Heathens' fans on the bus to Mildenhall. It will be split evenly between the 7 riders that represented the club yesterday - a gesture I understand the guest riders are surprised by and appreciative of in equal measure. Well done everyone, I was surprised to see the amount raised.

[janey]

Is there any chance Dudley could cancel Tuesday's meeting till Mildenhall have Heeps and Stoneman back from injury.....

[MrMungo]

Chris Louis wasn't there. He was with Ipswich up in Glasgow.

There were tears because of all of the abuse from the Dudley lot.

And there was an awful lot of abuse. Too much. Odd comments here and there are tolerable, but yesterday was far too much.

I can only comment on what I saw and the only screaming I heard from a home fan was when a Dudley chap was trying to get into a fight when surrounded by kids.

 

It was a horrible atmosphere with most people on edge, and an atmosphere I hope I never experience at any Speedway track again.

 

As for the racing, and to answer your questions, Ritchings was on the pace and involved in a few good scraps. Greenwood wasn't.

[21st century heathen]

That's a silly first post but hey-ho.

 

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Cheers. I have been a little concerned that Dan may be delivering a little too much too soon from reserve, as strange a comment as that may seem. I'd like to have seen him have two full years at reserve on his return to the sport, or at least in and out of reserve like Darryl has. Darryl should be ready to take it on now and I suspect he can.

 

Apologies re Louis. It was a bit of a sweeping statement that the like of him and Mr Lee probably won't be concerned by some booing and geering. Some Heathens fans are none too pleased that some, and I reiterate again 'some', people went over the top. There are a few comments on FB about it.

[MrMungo]

Off the top of my head, other highlights were:

Nielsen's third to first in heat 4.

Irving's third to first in heat 5.

Nielsen trying to fend off Bekker with a slowing bike in heat 6 & failing.

Couple of good scraps between Nielsen and Irving with the former coming out on top on each occasion.

Ritchings had a few good battles and probably unlucky not to score a few more.

Halsey also involved in a few good battles, and had his best meeting for several months, IMO.

Bates recovering after a shaky start to record 2 very impressive wins.

Heat 13 was magnificent until the last bend. Garrity and Irving passing and re-passing about half a dozen times. Tremendous commitment from both.

[montie]

Off the top of my head, other highlights were:

Nielsen's third to first in heat 4.

Irving's third to first in heat 5.

Nielsen trying to fend off Bekker with a slowing bike in heat 6 & failing.

Couple of good scraps between Nielsen and Irving with the former coming out on top on each occasion.

Ritchings had a few good battles and probably unlucky not to score a few more.

Halsey also involved in a few good battles, and had his best meeting for several months, IMO.

Bates recovering after a shaky start to record 2 very impressive wins.

Heat 13 was magnificent until the last bend. Garrity and Irving passing and re-passing about half a dozen times. Tremendous commitment from both.

 

Poor meeting without the Scunny assets then!!!! :wink:

[MrMungo]

I can understand the frustrations, but there's a right and wrong way with dealing with such frustrations.

Swearing at Michael Lee doesn't impact just him. He can deal with it fine, but others who haven't got his experience can't. It's not just Michael Lee and Chris Louis who run the club at the end of the day.

 

Greenwood will struggle a bit. But sometimes riders learn more from a bad meeting (or 2) than scoring freely (from reserve, for example).

I'd guess (from seeing what I have of him) that he will struggle a bit for a few matches, but will come good again when he's back at reserve. It's a big step up.

Don't think he's been on a bike for a few weeks, so in fairness to him, that may have impacted his performance aswell.

 

Ritchings has a fair bit of experience and should adapt well in the top 5. From memory, he wasn't outclassed in any of his races. Good starts, good first bends, but lacked a bit of speed so was picked off a few times.

 

Poor meeting without the Scunny assets then!!!! :wink:

 

Garrity a Scunthorpe asset?

[heathhen1]

As a heathen fan that was there I will put my view as unbias as possible yes some dudley fans had to much and were swearing yes we are loud the booing of garrity is in fun and he has said himself its funny and he plays to it I wish him well in his recovery . Any dragging off that was mentioned in other posts was done by other heathens fans who were trying to police there own in behaviour and language but this was made hard by mildy fans goading some quite heated events and saying things like non of us heathens work that's how so many of us travel away WRONG the whole lot of bad feeling was not only acohol fuelled but the whole joke of start time and the fact no event had been staged night before as stated . There is little mention on here of face irving was took a swing at as he got up from bad crash by a fen rider the abuse our lads got in pits the fact that our banners were thrown on dog track and when two of our most respectable fans one of wich had been instrumental in keeping our own fans under control went to retreve them the abuse they got was beyond anything that had gone on on second bend . I think you will find that there was fault on both sides !!!!!