Dave_minall Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) DON'T forget that Pavlic has already been knocked out of the qualifiers but gets a second chance as a wild card. I can't see why he won't get a pick to be honest. He's already proved that he can hack it in the GPs. EDIT: I now realise that I was thinking of Martin Vaclulik... that's what you get for posting on these forums when you're supposed to be working Edited August 3, 2012 by Dave_Minall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 DON'T forget that Pavlic has already been knocked out of the qualifiers but gets a second chance as a wild card. Let's face it, Pavlic has been given a Wildcard for the Challenge in Croatia, because of his nationality. Who are we to complain when someone else uses his place of birth, to gain a charity pick for a GP event? David Minall has hit the nail on the head, until our riders fight for a place in the series, we will forever remain a bit of a joke at this level. In fairness to Nicholls, he accepted his exit from the GP's with dignity. He realised he wasn't good enough and vowed to only return to the series, if he qualified by right. I fear Harris is so delusional, he will whine all winter if the organisers have the audacity to boot him out. Instead he should use it as a reality check, sort his machinery out, try to up his game in all leagues and actually qualify. Maybe the confidence of working for his place might give him the neccessary confidence in the series proper. JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I have never seen a speedway meeting at Peterborough. You must be one paranoid Kings Lynn fan going from that post. I follow speedway all around the world and want see the best in the GP's and if you were to put the Swedish Polish and Elite league averages together NKI is one of the top if not thee top riders this year so he deserves to be in it and yes I do attend Kings Lynn but anyone that knows me they know I am a speedway fan and attend many other tracks sounds to me as though you consider to be be a very clever person without attending to many meetings you must either be MJJ's father or live in the south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I follow speedway all around the world and want see the best in the GP's and if you were to put the Swedish Polish and Elite league averages together NKI is one of the top if not thee top riders this year so he deserves to be in it and yes I do attend Kings Lynn but anyone that knows me they know I am a speedway fan and attend many other tracks sounds to me as though you consider to be be a very clever person without attending to many meetings you must either be MJJ's father or live in the south I never doubted the fact that NKI was one of the world's best this season though, I simply stated that if he was to qualify then hopefully this season won't be a one-off and he can compete in the GPs. He would be a lot more exciting than some of the riders in there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 DON'T forget that Pavlic has already been knocked out of the qualifiers but gets a second chance as a wild card. That seems pretty unfair as he'll have riddden 100's of laps on his dads track. Why a wild card in a meeting of this nature, it does not make sense ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 That seems pretty unfair as he'll have riddden 100's of laps on his dads track. Why a wild card in a meeting of this nature, it does not make sense ? EXACTLY what we have said in SS this week. GP Challenge doesn't and shouldn't require a wild card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) I take it you must be one sour Panthers fan not having him at the showground this year let's face it Kenneth ain't gonna be in the GP's next year Do you remember the two previous seasons. In 2010, Janusz Kolodziej dominated both the Swedish and Polish leagues. Basically in the same way as NKI this season. In 2011 Janusz was like totally different rider far from his 2010 form. I do know JK had a nasty crash early in the season but the point is that even if a rider is having a good season allot can change over the winter. The same goes for the opposite as well of course. Another example is Bjerre who only were 9points from 4th place last season. Then this season he have had allot of problems finding his form. Edited August 4, 2012 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 EXACTLY what we have said in SS this week. GP Challenge doesn't and shouldn't require a wild card. As I said before I can see your point, but surely the principle is largely the same as having 4 nominations i.e economics, though the nominations can help injured riders retain a place (as they did for Emil this year). How many tracks would run the GP challenge without the guarantee of a home rider? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I think Vaculik should be in there on merit...........how many other riders have gone out and won their first ever GP............he has proved he can hold his own............others I have no idea but I still maintain there are no British riders that are consistant enough to be in the GP series full time............. Give it a few years and we will be up there with the best again............ RP PS did I read somewhere that Craig Cook is one of the reserves for Cardiff???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj69 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 PS did I read somewhere that Craig Cook is one of the reserves for Cardiff???????? Yes u did. Dont think its been officially released yet but Cook told Edinburgh crowd on Friday that he will wear the number 18 race jacket. Would assume it would be Woffy or Barker for the 17 jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 There will always be a british rider in the gp series i think thats obvious. I dont agree with it but it will not be allowed to happen without a brit in there. Personally i want to see the best 16 riders in the world in there and none of our riders are in that position. Lets be fair Harris has kept his place on entertainment value alone as when on song he will provide some thrills and spills. His time has come though to be replaced and it can only be Tai or Scott. I think Ward Hampel and Vaculik are nailed on to get in as wild cards if Vaculik doesnt make the challenge qualifiers,then you are looking at Laguta next as well as Iversen. A brit doesnt deserve a place ahead of any of these riders but it would help if Vaculik and Iversen qualified from the challenge freeing up a wild card place. Dont think it matters if there will be 4 aussies and 1 dane. You need to be good enough and if Watt qualifies via the challenge then he will deserve his spot and Ward has to be in. Try a few years back not having Sullivan or Wiltshire in there. If Nicki is the only dane then fair enough and lets be honest if Harris keeps getting wild card after wild card then maybe Bjerre if he came 9th or 10th would be in line for another go. The authorities do like to put 9th and 10th back in a lot of the time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Following on this is in my opinion the 15 riders i think should be in the series next year: Nicki Pedersen Chris Holder Jason Crump Greg Hancock Emil Sayfutdinov Tomasz Gollob Andreas Jonsson Jaroslaw Hampel Fredrik Lindgren Darcy Ward Martin Vaculik Gregory Laguta Micheal Jepsen Jensen Janusz Kolodziej Niels Kristian Iversen or Tai Woffinden agree/disagree? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 CANNOT see either Kolodziej or Laguta getting a place. The former had his chance and the latter may not have done enough at true international level to warrant a pick. There are always commercial considerations. Danish TV are an important component so if a Dane doesn't get through the Challenge can see either Iversen or Jepsen Jensen getting a chance. Looks like two Swedes will make top eight so no need for another as a wild card especially if Lindback continues to shine in the Challenge. At the end of the day so much is down to the Challenge. No offence but hopefully the likes of Dryml and Walasek don't have a blinder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 There should not be a wildcard in the gp challenge makes it a total joke if Pavlic gets through. Have no problem with the final being held there lets face it someone will have home track advantage where ever it is, and if Pavlic got to the challenge final on merit then of course he has the luck of it being a local track but he didnt and this is so wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRackBandit Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Following on this is in my opinion the 15 riders i think should be in the series next year: Nicki Pedersen Chris Holder Jason Crump Greg Hancock Emil Sayfutdinov Tomasz Gollob Andreas Jonsson Jaroslaw Hampel Fredrik Lindgren Darcy Ward Martin Vaculik Gregory Laguta Micheal Jepsen Jensen Janusz Kolodziej Niels Kristian Iversen or Tai Woffinden agree/disagree? I wish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Do you remember the two previous seasons. In 2010, Janusz Kolodziej dominated both the Swedish and Polish leagues. Basically in the same way as NKI this season. In 2011 Janusz was like totally different rider far from his 2010 form. I do know JK had a nasty crash early in the season but the point is that even if a rider is having a good season allot can change over the winter. The same goes for the opposite as well of course. Another example is Bjerre who only were 9points from 4th place last season. Then this season he have had allot of problems finding his form. How right you are but just remember he had one big crash at the first GP in Leszno and I think that took its toll on him all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 To be honest if there wasnt a regular GB rider in the series i would think twice about going to Cardiff, it's a very expensive weekend just to cheer on a wildcard. Your never know Bomber might have a blinding last few GP's lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 is it possible that either Gollob or/and Hancock might not enter the GP's next season and just focus on league racing for remaining years of their careers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'd like to see the challenge go back to the old way - throw in the 7 riders out of the top 8 versus 9 qualifiers. Have them race off for 5 of the spots, keep 2 for nominations (more for injured riders like Hampel than Harris cos he's a Brit). I also think that regionalized qualifiers like the old days would be cool - Brits, Aussies, Yanks, Kiwis even an Argentinian or two in the Overseas. Those were good meetings! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 is it possible that either Gollob or/and Hancock might not enter the GP's next season and just focus on league racing for remaining years of their careers of course it's possible, but it won't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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