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2013 GRAND PRIX SERIES LINE UP

 

01. Chris Holder

02. Nicki Pedersen

03. Greg Hancock

04. Emil Sayfutdinov

05. Tomasz Gollob

06. Freddie Lindgren

07. Antonio Lindback

08. Andreas Jonsson

 

SGP Challenge Qualifiers

 

09. Krzysztof Kasprzak

10. Matej Zagar

11. Niels Kristian Iversen

 

Wildcards

 

12. Jarek Hampel

13. Darcy Ward

14. Martin Vaculik

15. Tai Woffinden

 

 

Jarek Hampel is assured of a Wild Card pick and they are desperate to get Ward in as they know he will be one of thefront runners and be entertaining. Vaculik will get the nod over MJJ while Tai Woffinden takes the sole British role. ...... should anyone be injured they are replaced by Ales Dryml !!! :blink:

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2013 GRAND PRIX SERIES LINE UP

 

01. Chris Holder

02. Nicki Pedersen

03. Greg Hancock

04. Emil Sayfutdinov

05. Tomasz Gollob

06. Freddie Lindgren

07. Antonio Lindback

08. Andreas Jonsson

 

SGP Challenge Qualifiers

 

09. Krzysztof Kasprzak

10. Matej ZagarŶ

11. Niels Kristian Iversen

 

Wildcards

 

12. Jarek Hampel

13. Darcy Ward

14. Martin Vaculik

15. Tai Woffinden

 

 

Jarek Hampel is assured of a Wild Card pick and they are desperate to get Ward in as they know he will be one of thefront runners and be entertaining. Vaculik will get the nod over MJJ while Tai Woffinden takes the sole British role. ...... should anyone be injured they are replaced by Ales Dryml !!! :blink:

only problem with that line up I can see is Micheal Jepsen Jensen if you win a GP which he has he should be offered a place in 2013 line up so who do you leave out ? For me it's either Ward or Woffinden not to get a place

Vaculik like Mjj has won a GP so he should be in and Hampel is a dead cert .

Interesting times to see who gets the picks and remember Mjj could be world under 21 champ so needs to be considered

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only problem with that line up I can see is Micheal Jepsen Jensen if you win a GP which he has he should be offered a place in 2013 line up so who do you leave out ? For me it's either Ward or Woffinden not to get a place

Vaculik like Mjj has won a GP so he should be in and Hampel is a dead cert .

Interesting times to see who gets the picks and remember Mjj could be world under 21 champ so needs to be considered

Taking the devils advocate view - Mjj may have won but he hardly set the world alight in the heats just scraping into the semis on countback and in his other gp didnt make the semis.

 

A huge talent but no shoe in.

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Taking the devils advocate view - Mjj may have won but he hardly set the world alight in the heats just scraping into the semis on countback and in his other gp didnt make the semis.

 

A huge talent but no shoe in.

WELL put and Vaculik has proved that his Gorzow win was no fluke. MJJ has plenty of time.

 

You could say the same about Tai.

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You could say the same about Tai.

Totally agree and if he is in then it will be as much do with politics as talent.

 

Thats life though - not just sport or just speedway.

 

 

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Sure Michaels time will come.But if he wins the world U21 championship as well as the Gp at Vojens then that surely say's his time is next year.He is improving at a very good rate and i don't see that next year will be any different.I think by the time 2013 comes he will be in a position that he could be regularly making semi finals and sometimes finals.He might not win another one next year,but i think if he has that world title it will be hard to make the case for anyone else over him.Obviously we will get one though if some Brit is in

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Think TNT has the wilcards spot on ... as for MJJ he won on a track where he has ridden since he was 8, he holds the track record and the track conditions were more suited to him than some of the stars. Last night he showed us what he IS capable of in a much weaker field. That alone will have cost him any chance of a wildcard.

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Let's not forget MJJ was the Danish hero in the World Cup as well - I'm sure the final was in Sweden, not Vojens ;)

 

Much rather see him in the Grand Prix, rather than Woffinden - MJJ will stir things up instead of getting humiliated every two weeks. MJJ's credentials are also far better - remind me how many World Cups and Grand Prix rounds that Tai has won?

 

I think the wildcards should be:

Hampel

Ward

MJJ

Vaculik

 

But I have a nasty feeling that we will see the final place go to Woffinden rather than MJJ.

 

All the best

Rob

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MJJ scarped into the semis and won and didnt make the semis in the other gp. he was good in the wtc but shocking in gorizan. WARD HAMPEL VACULIK are certaintys thats for sure. Tai will be in for politics only as really MJJ should be in ahead of him but he wont be

 

Unfortunately I agree. Politics comes ahread of getting the best 15 riders in the world in the GP.

 

Tai still has time to become one of the best 15 if he gets his head down - but at the moment, he's nowhere close.

 

All the best

Rob

 

WELL put and Vaculik has proved that his Gorzow win was no fluke. MJJ has plenty of time.

 

Phil, so are you suggesting Vojens was a fluke? How about MJJ's performances in the World Cup then? Such as Heat 19 in the final. Holder had won Heat 18, with Nicki P only third, and the Aussies were right back in it. But MJJ then provided a wonderfully mature ride to hold back Holder and put the Danes on the brink.

 

MJJ, for me, just edged NKI out as the best rider in the World Cup this year.

 

Please can we have the best 15 riders in the world in the Grand Prix, rather than a hand out to the Brits?

 

All the best

Rob

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Let's not forget MJJ was the Danish hero in the World Cup as well - I'm sure the final was in Sweden, not Vojens ;)

 

Much rather see him in the Grand Prix, rather than Woffinden - MJJ will stir things up instead of getting humiliated every two weeks. MJJ's credentials are also far better - remind me how many World Cups and Grand Prix rounds that Tai has won?

 

I think the wildcards should be:

Hampel

Ward

MJJ

Vaculik

 

But I have a nasty feeling that we will see the final place go to Woffinden rather than MJJ.

 

All the best

Rob

 

IF Woffinden had a decent team to support his scores he would have won a WTC, as for the GP when he was thrown in last time he was not ready. He is now number one at his club and is a far far better rider than MJJ .... of that there is no doubt at all :approve:

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Taking away commercial considerations, can anyone think of a single reason to justify having Woffinden in the series next year? Genuine question, because I can't.

 

He's not British Champion (despite the final being held on his home track), he's had a wildcard before (and was woeful) and although he did quite well in World Cup race-off (he was average in Event 2), he was outperformed by MJJ.

 

On the subject of 'commercial considerations', would anyone of us currently watching GP's, stop watching, because a token Brit wasn't included?

 

What are the odds on Woffinden getting a place, the excuse being his 14 point haul (incl. a Joker) in the World Cup race off, and Monster announcing a sponsorship deal?

 

JT.

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IF Woffinden had a decent team to support his scores he would have won a WTC, as for the GP when he was thrown in last time he was not ready. He is now number one at his club and is a far far better rider than MJJ .... of that there is no doubt at all :approve:

 

So this year where was Woffinden in the British Grand Prix? Oh, that's right, he failed to quality despite the British Final being on his home track.

 

You are joking that Woffinden is a better rider than MJJ? What has Woffinden ever won? Evidence please.

 

Being the No 1 at Wolves is no qualification (just means he's least worst of your riders) - if he was No 1 for his Swedish and Polish teams, I'd be much more impressed.

 

All the best

Rob

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So this year where was Woffinden in the British Grand Prix? Oh, that's right, he failed to quality despite the British Final being on his home track.

 

You are joking that Woffinden is a better rider than MJJ? What has Woffinden ever won? Evidence please.

 

Being the No 1 at Wolves is no qualification (just means he's least worst of your riders) - if he was No 1 for his Swedish and Polish teams, I'd be much more impressed.

 

All the best

Rob

 

Woffinden would have been British Champion apart from Eddies fall, what is MJJ's average in the Elite, please no first season crap he is supposed to be a WTC champion after all so it should not be a problem, and a GP champion :lol:

 

FIVE last places last night in a field a rider of his "supposed" calibre should have waltzed thru ... FIVE ... 0-0-0-0-0 = 0pts .... not that good at all really :approve:

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Woffinden would have been British Champion apart from Eddies fall, what is MJJ's average in the Elite, please no first season crap he is supposed to be a WTC champion after all so it should not be a problem, and a GP champion :lol:

 

FIVE last places last night in a field a rider of his "supposed" calibre should have waltzed thru ... FIVE ... 0-0-0-0-0 = 0pts .... not that good at good really :approve:

 

As I thought, no evidence at all. Woffinden "would have been British Champion". Not good enough - he could have still won the rerun. Anyway, that was last year's excuse; he should have still gone out and won it this year. If he can't beat Nicholls and Harris, he's got no chance against the World's Elite.

 

I've got nothing against Tai Woffinden, but he will be humiliated in the Grand Prix next year unless he puts his head down and steps it up big time.

 

He's not ready. Maybe in a couple of years, he will be. But let's have a British rider because we deserve one, not just because of politics.

 

All the best

Rob

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Woffinden would have been British Champion apart from Eddies fall, what is MJJ's average in the Elite, please no first season crap he is supposed to be a WTC champion after all so it should not be a problem, and a GP champion :lol:

 

FIVE last places last night in a field a rider of his "supposed" calibre should have waltzed thru ... FIVE ... 0-0-0-0-0 = 0pts .... not that good at all really :approve:

 

How did Woffy get on last night ?

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