Pinny Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) But we all knew he isnt a Brit really. 24 carate pr1ck is a better descript of the guy Edited October 11, 2012 by LewisP 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 NOT a fan then... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 When are the wildcards announced. Can't be far off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 FAIRLY soon I would guess. Perhaps as early as next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Problem is if tai cant win the british final on own track, will he be able to do much in the gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 FAIRLY soon I would guess. Perhaps as early as next week. Excellent. Then we can have dozens of pages of debate over the Brit getting a wildcard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercover Elephant Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) It's not 'bagging', it's stating the obvious. I would dearly love to see a competetive British rider in the GP's, but I, like many others, am frustrated at seeing average Brits, undeserving of a place on the world stage, fighting for the odd point. I'd far rather we have a season out, give our riders and controlling body a reality check, then hopefully see them buck up their ideas in the next 12 months and actually qualify. Look at Niels Kritstian Iversen's transformation in the past year, that could be Harris, Woffinden or even Nicholls if they reassessed their approach to the sport. No Vaculik? A rider who won his debut GP and has scored more points in 6 rounds, than Harris did in 12? If Woffinden gets a pick ahead of him, then BSI really are a bunch of comedians... JT. Yep you're right. Vaculik miles clear of Tai for a pick. Sub Tai for MJJ as a proven winner at International level. My bad! Edited October 11, 2012 by Undercover Elephant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Excellent. Then we can have dozens of pages of debate over the Brit getting a wildcard CXAN'T wait! OR even can't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 For what it is worth an online poll by the German language magazine,Speedweek came up with the following results Vaculik 139 votes Ward 105 Hampel 99 Jepsen Jensen 84 Woffinden 62 Smolinski 47 Laguta 18 Mikkel Bech 14 U21 world champ 8 Think the Vojens clubs poll of the Danes who should get a wc is a massive victory for Jepsen Jensen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Vaculik 139 votes Ward 105 Hampel 99 Jepsen Jensen 84 If these riders are picked for the GP next year, it could potentially be the most exciting SGP ever. Never before have I seen a field of riders where any one of them could win a GP. Edited October 11, 2012 by Dave_Minall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Agreed that 15 riders is really too few for this sort of event. However, even if a suitable format could be found to accommodate more riders, I think the real issue would be the costs of expanding the lineup a lot more. You could have a 24-rider format with 4 groups of 6 riders each and then a knockout phase which would combine the best parts of the current and previous formats. I have stated before and I will offer it again that I think it would be interesting if after each GP the bottom 5 riders stand down for each subsequent GP. Initially GP2 to consist of the other 10 riders plus riders 4,5,6,7 & 8 from the Challenge Event. GP3 would then comprise the top 10 from GP2 plus the 5 who dropped out from GP1. This would then ensure that a pool of 20 riders are used during the season. Edited October 11, 2012 by barrow boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) I have stated before and I will offer it again that I think it would be interesting if after each GP the bottom 5 riders stand down for each subsequent GP. Initially GP2 to consist of the other 10 riders plus riders 4,5,6,7 & 8 from the Challenge Event. GP3 would then comprise the top 10 from GP2 plus the 5 who dropped out from GP1. This would then ensure that a pool of 20 riders are used during the season. the problem with this though is that ultimately it isnt a great deal different to when the GP field was 24 riders 10 years ago ........ The riders who found themselves on the fringes found it difficult to fight their way out and visibly started spending less money..... guys like Michael Max, Todd Wiltshire, Bo Brhel, Jason Lyons, Mark Loram couldnt make it work and had no financial incentive to stick around.... Your model... although good for giving 4 more riders a turn to ride.... would theoretically see a bigger difference in the quality of sponsorship, crew & equipment between the top 10 and the bottom 10 Maybe if IMG can build on the Monster sponsorship and attract other big hitters in the future ...a GP2 might be possible... Edited October 12, 2012 by spook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmau5 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Nope. It's WARD, HAMPEL, WOFFINDEN and VACULIK... Announcemt should be made Tues/Weds next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 For what it is worth an online poll by the German language magazine,Speedweek came up with the following results Vaculik 139 votes Ward 105 Hampel 99 Jepsen Jensen 84 Woffinden 62 Smolinski 47 Laguta 18 Mikkel Bech 14 U21 world champ 8 Think the Vojens clubs poll of the Danes who should get a wc is a massive victory for Jepsen Jensen..... Maybe the speedway star could arrange some sort of vote, either on their website or via text on numbers published in the speedway star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Excellent. Then we can have dozens of pages of debate over the Brit getting a wildcard I doubt if a Brit will get a wildcard. They'll give Woffinden one instead. (Ducks) All the best Rob 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Maybe the speedway star could arrange some sort of vote, either on their website or via text on numbers published in the speedway star. GOOD idea but a little late. Certainly worth looking at in the future. Nominated riders due to be announced on Wednesday next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) GOOD idea but a little late. Certainly worth looking at in the future. Nominated riders due to be announced on Wednesday next week. OK Phil, I don't want to tell you how to do your job, but as you're in the privileged position of being able to ask the organisers directly, why they have nominated certain riders, could you do us one favour? It seems inevitable Tai Woffinden will get a pick next Wednesday and in light of the discussions on this thread, surely the most pertinent question is, why? Obviously at first BSI will feed you the press release, which will probably ramble on about his injury during the original qualifying meeting and his top scoring performance in the World Cup race off, but these 'achievements' pale in comparison to Jepsen Jensen's Grand Prix win, World Cup victory and likely World U21 Gold Medal. What I, and surely many others, want to ask BSI is; What has Tai Woffinden done in 2012 to warrant a Grand Prix place over Michael Jepsen Jensen? A simple question, but an important one. Maybe you could even ask Tai himself... Kind Regards, JT. PS. Apologies if this question (and a subsequent article on the British reliance on wildcards?) is in the pipeline already. Edited October 12, 2012 by JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Because we "have" to have a Brit. Farcial. Woffinden will be lucky to score more than 3 points per roundnext year if he is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Why not just have 3 WC picks,then at each round have 1 local WC and 1 "inform" WC from any nation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 OK Phil, I don't want to tell you how to do your job, but as you're in the privileged position of being able to ask the organisers directly, why they have nominated certain riders, could you do us one favour? It seems inevitable Tai Woffinden will get a pick next Wednesday and in light of the discussions on this thread, surely the most pertinent question is, why? Obviously at first BSI will feed you the press release, which will probably ramble on about his injury during the original qualifying meeting and his top scoring performance in the World Cup race off, but these 'achievements' pale in comparison to Jepsen Jensen's Grand Prix win, World Cup victory and likely World U21 Gold Medal. What I, and surely many others, want to ask BSI is; What has Tai Woffinden done in 2012 to warrant a Grand Prix place over Michael Jepsen Jensen? A simple question, but an important one. Maybe you could even ask Tai himself... Kind Regards, JT. PS. Apologies if this question (and a subsequent article on the British reliance on wildcards?) is in the pipeline already. WHEN I know who they are will ask the questions ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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