MrMungo Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 buxton on a five one in heat fifteen when neilson preformed a speedway foul by falling and then after looking to see who was winning stayed down to get the race stopped.unlucky for buxton the rain then came and no rerun could take place,a new rule should be brought in to allow a referee to award a race if cheating is so obvious on any lap its not covered by a strong enough rule. i would like to thank both teams for riding if it was the elite league fairy's they would have not have carried on but the national boys give it a good go and it was a decent meeting. You're ridiculous, BW Double. Just plain ridiculous. Why on earth would someone who's only just come back from a big smash lay the bike when there's someone right behind him and could've very easily ploughed him causing very serious injuries. Heeps did very well to avoid him. It was not cheating in any shape or form. It was 100% commitment in a last heat decider by both riders on a very wet and very tricky track, which resulted in the fall. Nothing more, nothing less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 what did Josh Bates do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 You're ridiculous, BW Double. Just plain ridiculous. Why on earth would someone who's only just come back from a big smash lay the bike when there's someone right behind him and could've very easily ploughed him causing very serious injuries. Heeps did very well to avoid him. It was not cheating in any shape or form. It was 100% commitment in a last heat decider by both riders on a very wet and very tricky track, which resulted in the fall. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course you are 100 % right, but you may be wasting your breath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 buxton on a five one in heat fifteen when neilson preformed a speedway foul by falling and then after looking to see who was winning stayed down to get the race stopped.unlucky for buxton the rain then came and no rerun could take place,a new rule should be brought in to allow a referee to award a race if cheating is so obvious on any lap its not covered by a strong enough rule. i would like to thank both teams for riding if it was the elite league fairy's they would have not have carried on but the national boys give it a good go and it was a decent meeting. I wasnt there so can't speak from 1st hand experience, but I dont think Nielson is a cheat? seems like a strong statement.... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 To be fair to BW, what is the rule, when can a race be awarded, is there a set number of laps. If indeed the rider did look up see where his rider was and make no effort to leave the track it is a form of cheating that should be ruled out. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villiers210 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the referee can award the race at any time. They don't usually unless it's on the last lap. I wasn't there so I can't comment on this particular incident, but I can't for the life of me see any rider falling deliberately at NL level. That said, there are far too many cases of when riders do fall, staying down with little or no effort to clear the track if it's to their teams advantage. Again, I am not referring to yesterday. In cases like this, the referees should grow a pair and award it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 You're ridiculous, BW Double. Just plain ridiculous. Why on earth would someone who's only just come back from a big smash lay the bike when there's someone right behind him and could've very easily ploughed him causing very serious injuries. Heeps did very well to avoid him. It was not cheating in any shape or form. It was 100% commitment in a last heat decider by both riders on a very wet and very tricky track, which resulted in the fall. Nothing more, nothing less. i know the rider did not fall deliberately, but the fact that he then had a look to see who was leading, and because it was the buxton pair made no attempt to clear the track that is what i am on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fentigers79 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 If that was the case and I'm not saying it was its because these young riders see if being done at every level and by every rider in every team, please don't try and tell me this rider or that rider wouldn't do it because we all know they would. You only have to watch the farce that was the swc and the Danes/ Aussie to see cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 At the end of the day a draw was a fair result to both teams. Buxton rode well to get in front and then the Fen Tigers worked hard to get on level terms with one heat left. If the result had been decided we may not have tried to run heat 15 as the rain was worsening. Both teams wanted to give it a go though and take the chance of winning the meeting. Unfortunately it didn't work out but all credit to the riders for getting on with it and the track staff, medics and supporters for bearing with us. All in all a good meeting which the weather did its best to ruin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 So BW Double your saying Priest or Branford would not have done the same had it been the other way round? 95% of the stuff you post on here is utter tosh why even bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) To be fair to BW, what is the rule, when can a race be awarded, is there a set number of laps. If indeed the rider did look up see where his rider was and make no effort to leave the track it is a form of cheating that should be ruled out. Junior The rule that covers it is numbered 15.5.2. Basically ALL riders in the race must have completed a minimum 2 laps before the referee has discretion to award that heat. End of discussion? Edited July 30, 2012 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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