britmet Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 He's a young-ish Brit --it is the National Development League -- (Stepping aside from the thrust of the last 2 posts, re Adam,) - It's not a Development league, - It hasn't been for several years. We do have Development Lges, - the ADL and the MDL. The Northern broke up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jef Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Well, I won't dwell on the result other than saying in 40years of watching speedway that's the most dominant away performance I can remember. However, personally I think it was a very positive performance from the Islanders! despite being behind from the first race they put in some good rides. Kyle Hughes had a good meeting with some great battles to pass Dudley riders, Danny Warwick had a bad night but probably a good meeting to have an off day as even if he had been on form the result wouldn't have changed. Ben hopwood had a couple of good rides and Mark baseby should be a solid heat leader once he gets back into the groove. Paul Stark struggled again with mechanical gremlins but when he got his bike going he had a good win! ( IMO he shouldn't be a reserve, I think his avarage dropped because of the mechanical problem he seems to be bugged with, if he can get his bikes going he will be a real bonus for us at No 7!) Overall encouraging and I think against every other team in the league we will be fighting for the points but against Dudley last night we stood no chance! Well done to them for putting a great team together and congratulations on winning the title this year On the question of Adam Roynon, personally I enjoyed watching him ride last night even though he was never challenged, The same with The Worrall Brothers and Jason Garrity when they visited, not good for racing but great to watch and appreciate their class! PS Great to see Matt Read there last night, looking well and still enjoying being involved in the sport. Edited July 25, 2012 by Jef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 PS Great to see Matt Read there last night, looking well and still enjoying being involved in the sport. Indeed it was great to see Matt there last night looking good as indeed it was Mark Simmonds too who is on holiday on the Island with his family. Mark told me he's fully recovered from his last bad knock and, indeed, had had a skid BUT he said he is definitely NOT going to make a comeback. As to the match itself, well not much you can say really apart from a comprehensive win for the Heathens and a comprehensive defeat for the Wightlink Islanders who never looked likely to win! Ah well, at least they've got something to aim at that being pulling back a mere 28 point deficit in the forthcoming second leg of the KO Cup semi at Smallbrook! :wink: :lol: Now to be serious for a moment, what do Heathens fans see as the future for the club? WILL they be able to find a venue of their own? WILL they move out of the NL if so? Just interested in people's thoughts (and hopefully, the return of pork sarnies at a speedway track!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Well id say the aim is to get our own track then move up leagues for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Well id say the aim is to get our own track then move up leagues for sure. I think everybody will realise that as the aim, but what are the chances of that aim being achieved is the question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Just seen the Dudley combined team average on the bspa site its a whopping 50.16 .and Roynon is on 11 .70 ..What team in this division would have a prayer against that..Good luck to them though they are within the rules...However it does make you wonder about those rules ? ..It would be interesting to see them take on a Premier league side at home to see how much strengthening they would need to compete in that league..... Edited July 25, 2012 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (Stepping aside from the thrust of the last 2 posts, re Adam,) - It's not a Development league, - It hasn't been for several years. We do have Development Lges, - the ADL and the MDL. The Northern broke up. If you asked half of the promotions in the league they will tell you its a development league,there more rookie in the league this year than recent one which points towards development The thing is that British disease of stepping down rather than stepping up,which was installed in many by Guardian reading liberal ** during the late 90`s is evident in the NL, The better riders in the NL need to be in the PL and maybe the EL,Not scoring huge points in the NL,sunday was a classic example,the highly rated Lewis Blackbird has stepped up in the PL[well done],first chane he has hes back in the NL pairs on his home track!!! is that doing him any good??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (Stepping aside from the thrust of the last 2 posts, re Adam,) - It's not a Development league, - It hasn't been for several years. We do have Development Lges, - the ADL and the MDL. The Northern broke up. You'd better tell the SCB then, who still refer to it as the National Development League in the 2012 regulations at least once! The name aside, I'm sure you would accept that development of riders is part of its reason for existence. Obviously that would not be at the same level as the ADL and MDL you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 That was a dominant performance, and the Islanders were not helped by machine problems more or less throughout the whole team, namely off the top of my head, Danny Warwick, Kyle Hughes, Paul Starke, and Young Ellis, and those added to the massive scoreline, okay so Ashley Morris also suffered on one occasion, and without those the scoreline, if not the result would have been far more respectable, The Islanders never gave up, though the result was never in doubt from very early on in the meeting, The Track staff, and supporters were very fair minded, and The Heathens fans were there usual voiciferous self, and yes we to applauded IOW race wins, and when fallers cleared the Track, another first was to see Royno sitting in amongst the Heathens Fans "DURING" the actual meeting its no wonder the Fans think so much of him, what other Sport can you get this interaction ?, Royno is NO Prima Donna, and deserves everything he gets out of The Sport, Smallmead is probably the best standalone Race Track in the NL, and if you cant race on that, then you cant race anywhere. I will weather permitting be back again on other occasions. It was a great day weather wise, enjoyed Part of Day spending a few quid at Gunwharf Quay Shopping Outlet on the Quayside at Portsmouth, then over to the Island to take in a nice Curry, before the Main Course at Smallmead, and what a win it was, everyone again played there part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Alas greyhoundp, you've got your 'Smalls' mixed up! Try SmallBROOK although I, and many others wish SmallMEAD was still a speedway venue too. Edited July 25, 2012 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Just seen the Dudley combined team average on the bspa site its a whopping 50.16 .and Roynon is on 11 .70 ..What team in this division would have a prayer against that..Good luck to them though they are within the rules...However it does make you wonder about those rules ? ..It would be interesting to see them take on a Premier league side at home to see how much strengthening they would need to compete in that league..... Mildenhall. Its why I am in heated negotiations with my boss for time off to take in both matches, because with two excellent racing strips thrown in they should be something very special indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Just seen the Dudley combined team average on the bspa site its a whopping 50.16 .and Roynon is on 11 .70 ..What team in this division would have a prayer against that.. Scunny had them beaten until 2 x engine blows in heat 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Central Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 That was a dominant performance, and the Islanders were not helped by machine problems more or less throughout the whole team, namely off the top of my head, Danny Warwick, Kyle Hughes, Paul Starke, and Young Ellis, and those added to the massive scoreline, okay so Ashley Morris also suffered on one occasion, and without those the scoreline, if not the result would have been far more respectable, The Islanders never gave up, though the result was never in doubt from very early on in the meeting, The Track staff, and supporters were very fair minded, and The Heathens fans were there usual voiciferous self, and yes we to applauded IOW race wins, and when fallers cleared the Track, another first was to see Royno sitting in amongst the Heathens Fans "DURING" the actual meeting its no wonder the Fans think so much of him, what other Sport can you get this interaction ?, Royno is NO Prima Donna, and deserves everything he gets out of The Sport, Smallmead is probably the best standalone Race Track in the NL, and if you cant race on that, then you cant race anywhere. I will weather permitting be back again on other occasions. It was a great day weather wise, enjoyed Part of Day spending a few quid at Gunwharf Quay Shopping Outlet on the Quayside at Portsmouth, then over to the Island to take in a nice Curry, before the Main Course at Smallmead, and what a win it was, everyone again played there part. Hope the wife doesn't see the bit about Gunwharf Quay Shopping Outlet -she is making her first trip to the IOW next Tuesday when Buxton are there. Shopping wasn't on the agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Austin Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 dont think many dudley fans will come to this one,there 1st defeat and the ferry home might upset there stomachs Foot in mouth time again man!!, can ya fix it bob lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I am aware that there are one or two other highly competitive teams in the division Mildenhall ,,Stoke,,Scunny..i was trying to point out that 50 . points is a winning score, ..Obviously there are times when Dudley can not put out their strongest side but even then they are to strong for most sides.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Austin Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Just seen the Dudley combined team average on the bspa site its a whopping 50.16 .and Roynon is on 11 .70 ..What team in this division would have a prayer against that..Good luck to them though they are within the rules...However it does make you wonder about those rules ? ..It would be interesting to see them take on a Premier league side at home to see how much strengthening they would need to compete in that league..... More rubbish waccy, it is what the team started on that you need to look at, Dudley had the same points to use as everyone else, maybe they just used them better hey??Roynon, Perry, Greenwod, Ash man, Ritchings all young and hungry riders. Deserve praise not critisicm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Scunny had them beaten until 2 x engine blows in heat 15 Fair point, although Bekker also had two efs earlier and Dudley were running RR for Perry which was hardly adequate at the time. But, yes, you take what luck is on offer and the Heathens were certainly fortunate there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Biggest joke now in this league is whos at reserve,been same for a few years and something needs to be done about it Perry now at reserve for Dudley,Reade still at reserve for Stoke yet 15yr old Max Clegg steps into main body of his team Another example of how me make it to easy for what decent young talent we have yet make it hard for even younger names in the sport like Max Clegg and Ross Walter and now the two youngsters at Dudley Edited July 25, 2012 by montie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Biggest joke now in this league is whos at reserve,been same for a few years and something needs to be done about it Perry now at reserve for Dudley,Reade still at reserve for Stoke yet 15yr old Max Clegg steps into main boday of his team Another example of how me make it to easy for what decent young talent we have yet make it hard for even younger names in the sport like Max Clegg and Ross Walter and now the two youngsters at Dudley On two fronts.....thats a blow for Darryl & Tom! I had thought that Darryl would still be behind Tom on the 2012 GS Averages until Tom had done 3 H & 3 A to get a 2012 GS Average of in excess of Ash's & close to Adam's! It now looks as if we have a minor miracle at #6 as if Tom is scoring freely at will at #4, what is he going to do at #6 with 7 starts a meeting until he gets a proper 2012 GS Average? By my knowledge I work that out to be until the end of August! As a Heathens fan I know that this is the Rules and it will probably benefit us, but is it the correct thing in the NL? Edited July 25, 2012 by berniev123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbymilkfloat Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 That was a dominant performance, and the Islanders were not helped by machine problems more or less throughout the whole team, namely off the top of my head, Danny Warwick, Kyle Hughes, Paul Starke, and Young Ellis, and those added to the massive scoreline, okay so Ashley Morris also suffered on one occasion, and without those the scoreline, if not the result would have been far more respectable, The Islanders never gave up, though the result was never in doubt from very early on in the meeting, The Track staff, and supporters were very fair minded, and The Heathens fans were there usual voiciferous self, and yes we to applauded IOW race wins, and when fallers cleared the Track, another first was to see Royno sitting in amongst the Heathens Fans "DURING" the actual meeting its no wonder the Fans think so much of him, what other Sport can you get this interaction ?, Royno is NO Prima Donna, and deserves everything he gets out of The Sport, Smallmead is probably the best standalone Race Track in the NL, and if you cant race on that, then you cant race anywhere. I will weather permitting be back again on other occasions. It was a great day weather wise, enjoyed Part of Day spending a few quid at Gunwharf Quay Shopping Outlet on the Quayside at Portsmouth, then over to the Island to take in a nice Curry, before the Main Course at Smallmead, and what a win it was, everyone again played there part. i thought it was smallbrook iow race at,unless my old memory serves me wrong smallmead is where reading use to ride at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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