racers and royals Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Draw has been made Red Sweden Blue Russia White Australia Yellow Denmark Confirmed line-ups and riding positions should be announced about 4.30 pm(uk time) this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencebel Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Should be a good final. Would love the Danes to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 hope danes win. anybody but australia would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombers number 1 fan. Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 I too will be cheering on the Danes! I like Russia too so would like to see them do well Should be a good meeting I'm looking forward to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Will it be like Monday when all the teams get a chance to use the joker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Will it be like Monday when all the teams get a chance to use the joker. Cant see the Danes being 6 down. If the Aussies have the same 4 as Monday, then i cant see them winning it. But because the Swedes were seeded straight through, we'll have to wait and see what they'll do. Should be a cracker though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 hope danes win. anybody but australia would be good Absolutely! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Out of interest, and because I have read a few times that “the top riders no longer need the EL and don’t come over here” How many riders is it looking like will be in the final that haven’t raced here? I have only made it about two throughout the whole thing (Lagutas) might be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombers number 1 fan. Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 hope danes win. anybody but australia would be good Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Looks like Madsen will make way for MBJ.. http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/1594/swc/mikkel-b-set-for-final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Out of interest, and because I have read a few times that “the top riders no longer need the EL and don’t come over here” How many riders is it looking like will be in the final that haven’t raced here? I have only made it about two throughout the whole thing (Lagutas) might be wrong though. Maybe numbers wise,but can you say Mikkel B or Emil have 'needed' the EL or gained much experience from their short time? Mikkel B didn't even have his own bikes as far as he told me.Just came over and jumnped on what was provided.In all seriousness he is where he is right now because of what he has learnt outside the EL and the same can be said for Emil.And i am not going through the list to find others.......the times have changed and riders really don't need the EL to get to the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Danes look favourites after that display yesterday but I will be supporting Emil and co. A rostrum place will be a a good result but I hope they win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Maybe numbers wise,but can you say Mikkel B or Emil have 'needed' the EL or gained much experience from their short time? Mikkel B didn't even have his own bikes as far as he told me.Just came over and jumnped on what was provided.In all seriousness he is where he is right now because of what he has learnt outside the EL and the same can be said for Emil.And i am not going through the list to find others.......the times have changed and riders really don't need the EL to get to the top That’s very much the minority though you must admit? The majority of riders in the WC have learned, or mastered their craft while racing in the UK/EL, they have become better riders for racing in Britain. So while, some may not “need it” it has been of a benefit to others who have very much used it to their advantage, only time will tell if guys like Vaculick, Smarzik etc really get to where they are going without the UK, or maybe, like other highly rated, young Eastern European riders they will fade away in their mid 20s. The majority of riders that master the sport, race in the UK for a extended period of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 That’s very much the minority though you must admit? The majority of riders in the WC have learned, or mastered their craft while racing in the UK/EL, they have become better riders for racing in Britain. So while, some may not “need it” it has been of a benefit to others who have very much used it to their advantage, only time will tell if guys like Vaculick, Smarzik etc really get to where they are going without the UK, or maybe, like other highly rated, young Eastern European riders they will fade away in their mid 20s. The majority of riders that master the sport, race in the UK for a extended period of time. Whilst i agree we should wait and see on the likes of Zmarzlik & co,i think times have now changed and we are looking at a generation that grew up maybe using the EL to hone their skills.Times have changed and we are seeing more and more riders who take another path to the top.Whilst they may at the moent be in the majority things may change in the next few years.On the other hand some of the other countries might be hitting the wall and won't be able to fund these super teams they have been over the past decade and it will all level out.I have been constantly asking about the relative poor attendances in Sweden for a good number of years and was generally told things were ok.But over the past few years we have seen one club then another hit trouble.Poland is slowly heading towards a crisis as well i think.It works fine as long as they can always find a new sponsor to pump money in.Once they dry up.....big trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 The Russians are coming!!!! Hopefully it'll be 1st Russia 2nd Denmark 3rd Sweden 4th Australia More likely to be Denmark, Oz, Russia, Sweden tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Russia won't win, They only won Event 1 because they were basically riding at home and they used a joker well. It's going to be between Denmark and Australia but I feel Mikkel B is a major gamble. Edited July 14, 2012 by Jepsen Jensen Racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ward in for Batch tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 FIM MONSTER ENERGY SWC FINAL LINE-UPS: Sweden (red): 1 Andreas Jonsson, 2 Fredrik Lindgren, 3 Peter Ljung, 4 Tomas H Jonasson. Russia (blue): 1 Emil Sayfutdinov, 2 Grigory Laguta, 3 Artem Laguta, 4 Roman Povazhny. Australia (white): 1 Jason Crump, 2 Darcy Ward, 3 Davey Watt, 4 Chris Holder. Denmark (yellow): 1 Nicki Pedersen, 2 Niels-Kristian Iversen, 3 Michael Jepsen Jensen, 4 Mikkel B Jensen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Gonna be between Australia and Denmark.If Darcy is even 85% fit, then the Aussies will win, if he's not, then Denmark have a great chance. Cannot understand how anyone can think Russia will win (I'd love them too though) 'cos they really only have one man who is in the class of at least 3 out of the Aussie and Danish teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ward in for Batch tomorrow. When Crump was interviewd on Monday he said "looking at his hand, it could be 2 weeks before he's ready", but probably a gamble worth taking, Troy wouldn't have got many anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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