The White Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 My son thinks, and I must say I agree with him, that the Speedway World Cup every year is too much. The World Cup should be special - therefore I would propose that it came round every THREE years. That would be Year One. Year Two could be a Speedway 'World Pairs' Championship - again to be run every THREE years. Finally - Year Three I would suggest a 'World Four Team Tournament'. Year Four back to the 'Speedway World Cup'. This is just a suggestion to try to keep World Events special and memorable. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 World Cup is special.......one of the best events of the year,each year.Why try and fit speedway intoa pattern that suits football for obvious reasons of the amount of countries entering?Speedway + football are totally different.Could say why have Wimbledon or Tour de France every year.........crack pot idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowmicktiger Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Would like to see the worlds best pairs though i think holder and ward would be hard to beat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Wouldnt the Speedway World Cup and a Speedway World Four team tournement be pretty much the same thing as the format is similar 4 man teams etc? I think they should have a week long 7 man per team tournement. The top 8 nations E.g Poland, Sweden, Australia, Denmark, Great Britain, Czech Republic, Russia and the USA into a random draw this tournement could be held in a certain country at different tracks all over it. Sunday: Team 1 vs Team 2 Monday: Team 3 vs Team 4 Tuesday: Team 5 vs Team 6 Wednesday: Team 7 vs Team 8 Thursday: Winner of Sunday vs Winner of Monday Friday: Winner of Tuesday vs Winner of Wednesday Saturday: Winners of Thursday vs Winners of Friday to crown the Champions. Teams for Example Poland Gollob Kolodziej Kasprzak Walasek Hampel Protasiewicz Janowski Sweden Jonsson Ljung Lindback Jonasson Lindgren Davidsson Sundstrom Aussies Crump Batchelor Ward Watt Holder Sullivan Woodward Denmark N Pedersen Iversen B Pedersen K Bjerre Andersen Jepsen Jensen Jensen Great Britain Harris Kennett Woffinden King Nicholls Bridger Barker Czech Republic L Dryml Milik A Dryml Franc Kus Simota Sitera Russia E Sayfutdinov Gafurov A Laguta Povazhny G Laguta Gizatulin Ivanov USA Hancock Wells Fisher Ingalls Hamill Janniro Burmeister Some of the meeting could be one sided ones but it would be something different its just my opinion of course. Edited July 11, 2012 by Superstar1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Superstar1 - Wouldnt the Speedway World Cup and a Speedway World Four team tournement be pretty much the same thing as the format is similar 4 man teams etc? It would not the way I envision it. A Four Team Tournament with TWO Riders from each Team competing in the Races. Say it was a Meeting between the following: TeamGB, Russia, Denmark, Poland. First Race would be two Riders from each Team. TeamGB v Russia, Heat 2) Denmark v Poland and so on. It could be done and it would certainly encourage Team Riding. That is my thinking Superstar1. Edited July 11, 2012 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sunday: Team 1 vs Team 2 Monday: Team 3 vs Team 4 Tuesday: Team 5 vs Team 6 Wednesday: Team 7 vs Team 8 Thursday: Winner of Sunday vs Winner of Monday Friday: Winner of Tuesday vs Winner of Wednesday Saturday: Winners of Thursday vs Winners of Friday to crown the Champions. I'm sure the sports authorities look forward to receiving your cheque to underwrite almost all of those meetings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerald tyke Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I think the World Cup is special.....just look at the racing it produces and EVERY year. The competition is to find the best team in the world so why not a yearly meeting? same as Gp to find the best rider yearly. Looking forward to Raceoff tomorrow night...come on your Brits oh yer and Tai!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I would like to see more teams involved in the qualifying stage but why change a winning format. SWC is one of the events of the year so leave it alone I say No good trying to use other sports as a guide as they have plenty of money so can afford to have things once every four years. Speedway is the poor relation and it gives the riders as well as the fans something to take pride in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refereerick Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 If its special why would you want it less often?? If you enjoy a beer or a whiskey or a curry etc do you think thats really special I better not have another one for a month or two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 This forum is amazing, about the only events in the sport that draw big crowds and usually provide great racing are the SGP, SWC and the Elite League play offs. Amazingly the luddites usually suggest doing away with these events. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Given that the SWC produces by far the best speedway of the season, we should definitely cut it back to once every four years, then we'll have something to really look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesboybert Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 NO NO NO NO NO NO LEAVE THE WORLD CUP AS IT IS! It's easily the best event of the year, provides big crowds, and top top racing. To change it would be madness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Given that the SWC produces by far the best speedway of the season, we should definitely cut it back to once every four years, then we'll have something to really look forward to. Very true...the Haley's Comet of Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Definitely once every 4 years and then have a one-off world final inbetween too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) Every year, but each team with a reserve is all the tweaking required. And if the reserve is used to replace a rider 'feigning' injury or just off-form, so what?! Edited July 12, 2012 by Bomo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) There aren't really enough teams to make biennial or quadrennial competition worthwhile with the current format. And a more involved head-to-head match format would rule out all but about 6 countries. The current competition is one of the more interesting events of the season, and there's not a great deal wrong with it (by speedway standards) except there should be reserves. There always used to be when the same format was used in the past, so one can only assume it's a cost cutting measure. In the past, reserves could be used as a team manager wished, and so long as they can't take more rides than anyone else then what does it matter? Edited July 12, 2012 by Humphrey Appleby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I agree Humph.Similar but on a smaller scale with the Ice Racing 'team' championship where the reserve can be used at any time for any rider,but like you say,no more rides than anyone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) World Cup is special.......one of the best events of the year,each year.Why try and fit speedway intoa pattern that suits football for obvious reasons of the amount of countries entering?Speedway + football are totally different.Could say why have Wimbledon or Tour de France every year.........crack pot idea Was just coming along to post the same sentiments. Why on earth should speedway have their World Cup once every four years just because football does? Lots of sports (probably most i think) be it for teams or individuals have their World Championships annually. Also an excellent point made regarding the Tour de France and Wimbledon. For what it's worth the four year gap is too much for football it should be reduced to two. Edited July 12, 2012 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) For what it's worth the four year gap is too much for football it should be reduced to two. Then when would they play the European Championships? And before anyone says every other year, when would the qualifiers get played given that the qualifying competition for both the World Cup and Euros takes 18 months? In addition, more World Cups would mean more hosts like Qatar. The competition is tarnished enough without having twice as many editions. Edited July 12, 2012 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I only put the idea forward for Discussion. I still think there is room for a World Pairs Competition and a World Four Team Tournament. I used to enjoy the 'Pairs' particularly when 'Simmo', Collins et al were riding. Perhaps TeamGB would not be able to put out a great Team at the moment but it would still be good to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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