SCB Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Workington , Newcastle, Somerset, - top heavy teams don't be silly !!!! To be fair, they are. Ok the fiurst two managed to sign good reserves on low averages too but they used up lots of points on their top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 The eight qualifying clubs are now known. Plymouth, Somerset, Workington, Newcastle, Berwick, Leicester, Glasgow and Scunthorpe will all do battle over two semi-finals.  They have used May’s averages in June as the cut-off for qualification.  Sadly, the current champions will not be in a position to defend their title which is a disappointment.  There is an argument of course that qualification should be based on the combined averages of the top five, as of course each team will be tracking FIVE, not four riders each. Had that been the case, then it would be Ipswich and not Berwick that would have qualified.  It isn't of course, so we will just have to live with it!!!  I sympathize with Ipswich,as Champions they surely deserve the chance to defend that title.Berwick suffered the same thing a few seasons ago,they won the 4TT at Coventry but werent allowed the chance to defend that title.  Easy answer of course,qualifiers,I mean just how hard can it be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Disappointed that Rye House aren't in it, but we wouldn't have won it anyway. Will decide nearer the time if I can be bothered to travel up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Disappointed that Rye House aren't in it, but we wouldn't have won it anyway. Will decide nearer the time if I can be bothered to travel up. My guess is that you will be going. I don't think that you been given any option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Can anyone explain or know the criteria for this competition as it's been announced that the defending champions , Ipswich are not included this year ! Â Is this random , another strange authorititive decision or just plain stupidity ! Â Please advise if you have any ideas . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Can anyone explain or know the criteria for this competition as it's been announced that the defending champions , Ipswich are not included this year ! Â Is this random , another strange authorititive decision or just plain stupidity ! Â Please advise if you have any ideas . Every year we all get kept in the dark , and every year supporters of the teams not selected get upset . The only fair way is to have a qualification competition , but we dont - we have this fiasco . Shouldn't really be called the PL fours , when not every team has a chance of winning it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Pretty miffed that Rye House aren't included in the line up, but thems the qualification rules, so we'll have to put up with it... Seems odd that Ipswich won't be there to defend their crown and probably put a couple of hundred on the gate at the same time. Berwick have qualified, so I guess I'll be the designated driver! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 My guess is that you will be going. I don't think that you been given any option. You know her so well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) There will be a much smaller crowd without both Ipswich and Rye House. Disappointed we don't get the chance to defend our title. Edited June 11, 2012 by London Witch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 So the current Holders don't get the opportunity to defend their trophy? Â Only in speedway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHayes Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) So the current Holders don't get the opportunity to defend their trophy? Â Only in speedway!! Â Happened to the Isle of Wight in 2008 so Ipswich are not the first. Edited June 11, 2012 by NS97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Did Ippo not only qualify last year because of newcastles injurys?? Â Â I fear you may be a little out on that one old boy. The qualifying clubs, in order of averages, were: Redcar, Sheffield, Workington, Edinburgh, Ipswich, Somerset and Glasgow. Â Last year of course, only seven teams "qualified", as Leicester were seeded through as hosts. Great pity that the same principle couldn't be extended to the current champions!! Â I think you may be thinking of "The Pairs", where Ipswich accepted a late-call-up to replace Plymouth, when Ben Barker was called up as a track reserve for the British Grand Prix, meaning he couldn't compete for the Devils at Somerset. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 So the current Holders don't get the opportunity to defend their trophy? Â Only in speedway!! Â there's quite a few occassions this has happened - ask Berwick. Â Some would argue that the teams change every year so the current holders are extremely unlikely at best to be lining up for the same club again. Also its the PL4s for this season not last. Â Not saying I agree with it, just pointing out some of the reasons that could be given for not automatically including the defending champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012    I fear you may be a little out on that one old boy. The qualifying clubs, in order of averages, were: Redcar, Sheffield, Workington, Edinburgh, Ipswich, Somerset and Glasgow.  Last year of course, only seven teams "qualified", as Leicester were seeded through as hosts. Great pity that the same principle couldn't be extended to the current champions!!  I think you may be thinking of "The Pairs", where Ipswich accepted a late-call-up to replace Plymouth, when Ben Barker was called up as a track reserve for the British Grand Prix, meaning he couldn't compete for the Devils at Somerset. I think I am, it was lemos injury why we didn't qualify as we used rr for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 No point going to this one now....and this was going to be the one and only away meeting I was going to go to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) there's quite a few occassions this has happened - ask Berwick.  Some would argue that the teams change every year so the current holders are extremely unlikely at best to be lining up for the same club again. Also its the PL4s for this season not last.  Not saying I agree with it, just pointing out some of the reasons that could be given for not automatically including the defending champions It makes not a jot of difference how many times it's happened and neither does the change in line ups, it's still ridiculous. Chelsea will enter next seasons champions league with a totally different line up to the one that just lifted the trophy. But Chelsea as a CLUB, the champions league holders, will defend their trophy next season.  Ipswich speedway club, as current PL4'S winners, should be at Peterborough to defend their trophy.  A complete farce. Edited June 12, 2012 by Steve Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 It makes not a jot of difference how many times it's happened and neither does the change in line ups, it's still ridiculous. Â Chelsea will enter next seasons champions league with a totally different line up to the one that just lifted the trophy. But Chelsea as a CLUB, the champions league holders, will defend their trophy next season. Â Ipswich speedway club, as current PL4'S winners, should be at Peterborough to defend their trophy. Â A complete farce. Just bring back the qualifying round and give the competition some credibility.these were always well supported meetings,the Promoters need to pay the correct rates of pay instead of over the odds that most are forking out and these meetings would be viable,the Finals were always well supported too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 To be fair, they are. Ok the fiurst two managed to sign good reserves on low averages too but they used up lots of points on their top 4. So you're telling me that teams sign reserves on averages higher than 5 then use the rest for the remaining riders , yeah right that makes sense Most of the PL team,s have done that this season...NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Just bring back the qualifying round and give the competition some credibility.these were always well supported meetings,the Promoters need to pay the correct rates of pay instead of over the odds that most are forking out and these meetings would be viable,the Finals were always well supported too. Â 13 teams in the league. 3x4=12. Which team will miss out in the qualifying rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj69 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 13 teams in the league. 3x4=12. Which team will miss out in the qualifying rounds? Â Reigning champions?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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