lucifer sam Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) SAINTS TAKE CENTRE STAGE WITH the Henderson Insurance Scunthorpe Scorpions away at Plymouth on Friday, it’s the turn of the Jotun Paints Scunthorpe Saints to take centre stage at the Eddie Wright Raceway this weekend. On Sunday afternoon (3pm), the Saints entertain both the King’s Lynn Young Stars and the Dudley Heathens in a double-header. The price for the National League double header is the same as a single Premier League meeting at the Eddie Wright Raceway. Therefore it will cost just £14 for an adult to see 30 heats of action on Sunday afternoon. A large number of supporters from Dudley are expected, while the Scorpions management are hopeful that the value-for-money admission prices on offer will also tempt other fans from across the country. Jerran Hart will still ride for the Saints as their No.1 for the next few weeks, despite finding himself being left out of the Premier League Scorpions, to make way for the returning Tom Armstrong. Saints boss Stuart Parnaby said: “Obviously Jerran is very disappointed to have lost his team place with the Scorpions. “But I’ve told him that this is the time he needs to really knuckle down and prove himself, and show he should be in a Premier League side. “Some good scores for the Saints in the coming weeks will act as a reminder to Premier League clubs that he is still very much available to ride in that league. “Jerran could have taken the easy way out and said that, as he wasn’t riding for the Scorpions, he wouldn’t ride for the Saints either. He hasn’t done that, and I hope his reward is a Premier League place soon.” The Saints will be without injury victims Oliver Greenwood and Adam Wrathall on Sunday, while Steve Worrall is also missing, as he is in international action in the World Under-21 Team Cup semi-final at Lakeside. Rider replacement will be utilised for Worrall, while Tommy Fenwick - who battled impressively for three points for the Saints at Stoke in the second leg of the Knockout Cup - will receive another opportunity to shine for the Saints. “Tommy reminds me of Richie Worrall from a couple of years ago”, commented Parnaby. “He wants to get out there and ride the bike, and he has no fear. “Tommy actually used to ride Motocross along with Richie. I know that Ian Worrall (the father of Richie and Steve) rates Tommy very highly.” The Saints will use Martin Wrathall, the older brother of Adam, at No. 8 on Sunday. “You never know what is going to happen during a double-header”, explained Parnaby. “We need to have enough cover just in case. We’re grateful that Martin is willing to travel over to be No. 8. “Adam is also going to be there on Sunday to cheer on the lads. Adam is probably around a month from returning – the plaster is on his arm is due to come off in about three weeks. “Meanwhile Oliver Greenwood is getting closer to returning to action for the Saints, well I say returning, but he hasn’t actually rode for us this year, because he got injured at Stoke before our first fixture. “Oliver has had the go-ahead from a sports doctor in Birmingham to start swimming again, which means he can start building his arm muscles back up. And then he has another appointment with a consultant on Monday to look at his collarbone, when hopefully he will be told that he can start racing again.” Parnaby admits that Sunday’s two meetings represent a tough challenge for the Saints. “Both Dudley and King’s Lynn are amongst the favourites to win the league this year, so both meetings on Sunday will be tough. “But we always head into our home meetings with the attitude to win them. Tom Young has been in superb form so far this season, and we’ll be looking for him to back up our top two, Jerran (Hart) and Gary (Irving). “We won’t put any pressure on Max Clegg and Danny Phillips, but this is a great opportunity to test themselves against quality opposition. “I’m sure we will have two cracking meetings on Sunday afternoon”, concluded Parnaby. National League Double Header Admission Prices: Adult: £14.00 Student/OAP: £12.00 Child (10 - 16): £5.00 Child (0 - 9) Free (accompanied by paying adult) Family Ticket £33 (2 adults, 2 Children 10-16) Match Programme: £1.00 Teams for Sunday: Jotun Paints Scunthorpe Saints: 1. Jerran Hart, 2. Tommy Fenwick, 3. Steve Worrall R/R, 4. Tom Young, 5. Gary Irving, 6. Danny Phillips, 7. Max Clegg, 8. Martin Wrathall. King’s Lynn Young Stars (probable): 1. James Cockle, 2. Brendan Johnson, 3. Lewis Kerr, 4. Adam Lowe, 5. Jake Knight, 6. Tom Stokes, 7. Scott Campos. Dudley Heathens: 1. Adam Roynon, 2. James White Williams, 3. Tom Perry, 4. Byron Bekker, 5. Ashley Morris, 6. Darryl Ritchings, 7. Dan Greenwood. Edited May 24, 2012 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 how can kings lyn be seriously considered as contenders/ did you not see there score at dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 how can kings lyn be seriously considered as contenders/ did you not see there score at dudley Did you see Scunnys score at Belle Vue at the start of last season??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) how can kings lyn be seriously considered as contenders/ did you not see there score at dudley Oxford lost 26-67 at Newport in 2005, and yet we were still league champs come the end of the season. One swallow does not make a season... All the best Rob Edited May 24, 2012 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I see Dudley Heathens as a diffrent club to other in the NL as i see other club bring riders young riders on and not rider who have been in the Nl for somtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I see Dudley Heathens as a diffrent club to other in the NL as i see other club bring riders young riders on and not rider who have been in the Nl for somtime. Ashley Morris,Tom Perry,James White Williams,Dan Greenwood,Daryl Ritchings....are hardly old men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Well white williams is 26 but how can people say that when we av morris, perry, ritchings, greenwood. We give youngsters a chance just as much as any other club, some people are here just to knock dudley, haha. Ommer um. Lets get back about talkin about sundays tough match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Well white williams is 26 but how can people say that when we av morris, perry, ritchings, greenwood. We give youngsters a chance just as much as any other club, some people are here just to knock dudley, haha. Ommer um. Lets get back about talkin about sundays tough match. Okay..Tom Perry won`t be there making it even tougher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) Nothing is won Leaguewise in May , so there is one here not counting any Chickens. One thing i omitted to mention earlier was well done to Ashley Morris for lending his bike to Dan Greenwood, when Dans bike packed up on the line in his last race.. Which brings me onto a topic i have often thought about, years ago Teams used to have a Track spare Bike, it appears Daniel only has one bike <Finances> I know he did three jobs just to be able just to buy a Bike to get back in to the Sport. The Heathens have to be one of the most profitable Teams in British Speedway, and these youngsters put all of there spare money into maintaing Bikes, WHY dont The Heathens invest in a Track spare ? no need for a GP standard Bike, but one that is adequate for the job intended. I am No accountant but i would guess this could be claimed back from HMIR, everyone would gain, the rider, the team, the supporters. Seeing the Heathens crowds which seem slightly up, it should be something messrs Pearson, CVS and Patchet should consider, and are well able to afford. Come on management dont be so stingy... Ashley Morris,Tom Perry,James White Williams,Dan Greenwood,Daryl Ritchings....are hardly old men Hmmm, and Byron is 2 years younger than JWW, and Royno is 23.They are our elder statesmen, the rest are Teenagers, dear oh dear we have a team of golden oldies, I am sure the average age of the Heathens compares favourably with most other NL Teams. Edited May 25, 2012 by greyhoundp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) Nowt wrong with the make-up of the Dudley team. The third tier is always a compromise between standalone teams and second teams. Although they operate at Wolves, Dudley are in effective, a standalone team, so they are in it to win it, as opposed to bring in young talent. Having said that, their team contains plenty of talented younsters. Dudley do appear to be the strongest team in the league at the moment (well that will be the case come the play-offs is a different matter). There's nothing wrong with that, it makes them attractive visitors and I'm looking forward to seeing the match on Sunday, to see if the Saints can topple the championship favourites. It won't be easy with Steve, Adam and Oliver all missing, but let's see what happens. As long as the racing is good, that's the main thing. All the best Rob Edited May 25, 2012 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Rides Again Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Will Dudley go with R/R to replace Tom Perry ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) how can kings lyn be seriously considered as contenders/ did you not see there score at dudley Think you may see a different Young Stars. It's no secret they don't like Monmore Wood (i'm mean that in the nicest sense of the word). But fair play for giving it a go Edited May 25, 2012 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 i think mildenhall and stoke are stronger than dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) i think mildenhall and stoke are stronger than dudley Bob, your opinion so fair enough, up until KL at home we have had riders not on it, as the modern terminology is. They were and they wont mind me saying so, Byron Bekker, Daryll Ritchings, and JWW who won his first race at Monmore Wood last Tuesday, so on Sunday and next Tuesday we will see if these three riders are back on song. Myself i think we just have the edge over Stoke, there success story has been Ben Reade, otherwise they may have struggled, but an injury to Jamie Pickard hasnt helped. Mildenhall or us, i am not sure, i will have a better idea after next week, but to be sure there doesnt seem to be much between the 3 Teams. Edited May 25, 2012 by greyhoundp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 i think mildenhall and stoke are stronger than dudley Not so sure about Stoke - the Scunthorpe Saints would have knocked them out of the cup with a full-strength team. Dudley look much stronger. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Not so sure about Stoke - the Scunthorpe Saints would have knocked them out of the cup with a full-strength team. Dudley look much stronger. All the best Rob Its all hindsight, Would the Full strength Saints have knocked out Stoke over 2 leg's had the Potters has Birks and Pickard in the first leg not R/R and Tommy Fenwick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) Its all hindsight, Would the Full strength Saints have knocked out Stoke over 2 leg's had the Potters has Birks and Pickard in the first leg not R/R and Tommy Fenwick? It is all hindsight. But the Stoke side I saw in the second leg did not look much like potential league champions. Maybe they just had a bad day and fair enough that they were missing Richie Worrall, but the Potters need to ride much better when they ride Dudley or Mildenhall. All the best Rob Edited May 25, 2012 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 see scunny soon brought in some experiences into there team hart irving worrell can hardly be classed has the class of 2012 and neither can wrathall so what ha pend to the training school guys only about two in the team what a laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 It is all hindsight. But the Stoke side I saw in the second leg did not look much like potential league champions. Maybe they just had a bad day and fair enough that they were missing Richie Worrall, but the Potters need to ride much better when they ride Dudley or Mildenhall. All the best Rob Stoke's team is built around their top 4 scoring heavily and Ben Reade chipping in from reserve. Upto this point, we haven't conceded 50, but haven't scored 50. Missing Richie cost us at the IoW (His rides tallied 3 points) and the injury to Pickard hasn't helped. On a normal day, you have to fancy Atkin, Worrall, Birks and Pickard to score around 35-40 between them, leaving the reserves and number 4 to pick up a few points. I still think that, so long as Stoke are within a couple with 3 heats to go, we will win most meetings. Hopefully Liam Carr can come and score a couple of points and turn a team who is very nearly there to a team who will challenge at the top. Either way, I can't see us having many defeats that don't result in us gaining a point away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Stoke's team is built around their top 4 scoring heavily and Ben Reade chipping in from reserve. Upto this point, we haven't conceded 50, but haven't scored 50. Missing Richie cost us at the IoW (His rides tallied 3 points) and the injury to Pickard hasn't helped. On a normal day, you have to fancy Atkin, Worrall, Birks and Pickard to score around 35-40 between them, leaving the reserves and number 4 to pick up a few points. I still think that, so long as Stoke are within a couple with 3 heats to go, we will win most meetings. Hopefully Liam Carr can come and score a couple of points and turn a team who is very nearly there to a team who will challenge at the top. Either way, I can't see us having many defeats that don't result in us gaining a point away from home. Vog, I hope the Potters do have a good season, it was a shame when you fell away at the business end last season and ended up with nothing. Birks and Worrall are a great spearhead, although they often are not going to be available due to other commitments. It will be interesting to see how Stoke go once Reade moves up into the top five, Back onto topic, and really looking forward to tomorrow's double-header at Sunny Scunny. All the best Rob see scunny soon brought in some experiences into there team hart irving worrell can hardly be classed has the class of 2012 and neither can wrathall so what ha pend to the training school guys only about two in the team what a laugh Jason King and Steve Worrall were in the start of season team, which was always supposed to have a couple of more expereicned guys at the top to help out the likes of Max Clegg, Danny Philipps and Oliver Greenwood. Oliver is already out injured (will be back soon), and Tommy Fenwick has also been given outings for the Saints. Also Simon Allen was used at Stoke, while Adam Kirby (Stoke) and Martin Wrathall (on Sunday) have been No. 8 for the Saints. So plenty of guys from the Amateur meetings / training schools in the mix. But it's necessary to have more experienced guys there at the same time, the National League is both a competitive league AND a training ground at the same time. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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