Eskilstuna Pairs Meeting, May 3rd

[Ghostwalker]

There will be a pairs meeting at Eskilstuna on Thursday May 3rd (next week).

 

The following teams and riders will participate:

 

Ikaros Smederna:

1. Magnus Zetterström

2. Ricky Kling

3. Daniel Henderson (reserve)

 

FNC Gnistorna:

1. Thomas H Jonasson

2. Mathias Thörnblom

 

Masarna:

1. Antonio Lindbäck

2. Linus Sundström

 

Hammarby Speedway:

1. Sebastian Aldén

2. Dennis Andersson

 

Griparna:

1. Daniel Davidsson

2. Robin Törnqvist

3. John Lindman (reserve)

 

Vargarna:

1. Daniil Ivanov

2. Tobias Busch

3. André Hertzberg (reserve)

 

http://www.ikarossme...ews&newsid=2228

 

I think i'll have Masarna as favourites to win.

With Smederna for 2nd and Vargarna for 3rd.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Ghostwalker

[brandonbee48]

There will be a pairs meeting at Eskilstuna on Thursday May 3rd (next week).

 

The following teams and riders will participate:

 

Ikaros Smederna:

1. Magnus Zetterström

2. Ricky Kling

3. Daniel Henderson (reserve)

 

FNC Gnistorna:

1. Thomas H Jonasson

2. Mathias Thörnblom

 

Masarna:

1. Antonio Lindbäck

2. Linus Sundström

 

Hammarby Speedway:

1. Sebastian Aldén

2. Dennis Andersson

 

Griparna:

1. Daniel Davidsson

2. Robin Törnqvist

3. John Lindman (reserve)

 

Vargarna:

1. Daniil Ivanov

2. Tobias Busch

3. André Hertzberg (reserve)

 

http://www.ikarossme...ews&newsid=2228

 

I think i'll have Masarna as favourites to win.

With Smederna for 2nd and Vargarna for 3rd.

Now if there is a late inclusion of a Szymon Wozniak and Kenni Larsen pairing i will contact a bookmaker quickly!

Both looked really good last week and will both be very valuable members of the team this season.

Shame there won't be a stream! All the best. Alan.

[tarabanko]

Den 3 Maj arrangerar Ikaros Smederna en partävling för dom Allsvenska lagen.

Dock har vi fått återbud tyvärr av Rospiggarna och Örnarna.

Dom ersätts av Elitserielagen Vargarna och Hammarby Speedway.

 

Du kan redan nu vara med och tävla om fritt inträde till tävlingen.

Hur gör jag?

Skicka ett sms med: "SmedernaSF tävling" till 72550 för att medverka i tävlingen.

 

Kostnad:

10 kronor + ev. operatörsavgifter.

 

Tävlingen pågår till den 2 Maj klockan 21.00.

Vinnaren kontaktas via sms samma kväll som tävlingen avslutas.

 

Laguppställningarna:

Ikaros Smederna:

1. Magnus Zetterström

2. Ricky Kling

3. Daniel Henderson (reserv)

 

FNC Gnistorna:

1. Thomas H Jonasson

2. Mathias Thörnblom

3. Sebastian Carlsson

 

Masarna:

1. Antonio Lindbäck

2. Linus Sundström

3. Ted Hagansbo

 

Hammarby Speedway:

1. Sebastian Aldén

2. Dennis Andersson

 

Griparna:

1. Daniel Davidsson

2. Robin Törnqvist

3. John Lindman (reserv)

 

Vargarna:

1. Daniil Ivanov

2. Tobias Busch

3. André Hertzberg (reserv)

 

http://www.ikarossme...ews&newsid=2237

 

 

 

 

The pair meeting will be streamed here http://www.speedwayallsvenskan.se/ at CET 19.00

COSTS 49 SEK

Edited May 2, 2012 by tarabanko

[iris123]

Ooh,spoilt for choice tonight then with streams.Be interesting to see how Tobi Busch + Ice Racer Danil Ivanov go.Tobi looked really good yesterday.But that was in Germany

Otherwise a big thumbs up for the Smeddie pairing

[brandonbee48]

Great news. The Smederna (USA) supporters club will be watching.

A safe and successful meeting!

Regards. Alan.

[Ghostwalker]

Honestly Tarabanko, you don't get any new fans by putting every broadcast as overpriced streams.

 

For 49kr i require:

High picture and audio quality, graphics both before and after each heat.

Current quality is definitely not meeting these requirements.

 

 

If you want to charge the same amount as Canal+ you'll have to deliver the same product.

I also noticed the you've upped the entrance fee with 20%, not a wise move.

[brandonbee48]

Honestly Tarabanko, you don't get any new fans by putting every broadcast as overpriced streams.

 

For 49kr i require:

High picture and audio quality, graphics both before and after each heat.

Current quality is definitely not meeting these requirements.

 

 

If you want to charge the same amount as Canal+ you'll have to deliver the same product.

I also noticed the you've upped the entrance fee with 20%, not a wise move.

 

You beat me to it. I paid last week and thought it was a one-off. I haven't yet seen the conversion to $ on my credit card but i'm afraid i'm not paying again. Last week i watched a one camera stream (in good quality) but that was it. No graphics, no replays and the sound cut off as the tapes went up for each race. Even with a race card-thank you Ghostwalker, and even though i am a fan, i wasn't sure in some races who was in it.

I am about to watch a Danish match on a legal stream -for free

http://kanalsport.dk/

and tomorrow there is a Polish league meeting that will have multiple streams available. I love Smederna but not that much!

 

Sorry, but "the price a'int right"

 

Alan.

[tarabanko]

Honestly Tarabanko, you don't get any new fans by putting every broadcast as overpriced streams.

 

For 49kr i require:

High picture and audio quality, graphics both before and after each heat.

Current quality is definitely not meeting these requirements.

 

 

If you want to charge the same amount as Canal+ you'll have to deliver the same product.

I also noticed the you've upped the entrance fee with 20%, not a wise move.

 

 

 

As your arse which is in two halfs peoples meaning are not the same. Id say that if you dont go or live in another country I would be

very glad to pay 49 sek

 

120 SEK is 10,48 GBP in todays currency, compare to a premier league meeting in Uk that is 16,00 GBP

and in swedish money 183,16 SEK.

So it is a good price for this VALUE of meeting.

 

The price in Allsvenskan at Ikaros Smederna will be 120 sek through the season, except semifinal and final.

 

 

Best regards

 

Mikael

[iris123]

Indeed Mikael.That seems a fair entrance price for what is on offer.No point anyone saying,but in Poland it is cheaper.......It isn't easy to balance thefact the fans want top riders,but don't want to pay too much for that.And the club also wants to give the best they can afford.As for the stream....well there are a fair number of fans who hardly ever go to a meeting and just watch free streams which doesn't really contribute much to the sport.At least this way they will be contributing something

[brandonbee48]

As your arse which is in two halfs peoples meaning are not the same. Id say that if you dont go or live in another country I would be

very glad to pay 49 sek "

It is usually the case that when you insult someone, your argument is weak. Let me just offer the following.

I live in "speedway wasteland"- the USA. I have no access whatsoever to any television coverage. The sport does not really exist in this country. Bravo to Greg and the few who keep it going.I can and do buy a package for Football (Soccer ) and Rugby coverage. It costs me $15.00 per month. I get more than i could possibly watch. Premiership, Championship, Scottish Premiership, Italy, Spain. Premiership Rugby, Super 15 Rugby. All live and in high definition.

Last week i paid for the Smederna meeting, because i have become a fan of the club and wanted to support them. I got a single camera stream, just the track announcer, sound cut off as the tapes went up, no replays, no graphics whatsoever, no commentary (even if i can't understand it ) no interviews. For this it worked out to $7.50 plus whatever fees the credit card company add on for "Foreign transaction). I haven't got the bill yet, but let us say $10.00. Yesterday i was able to watch a legal stream from Denmark which had all of the missing elements . Interviews etc.

I can buy a legal GP stream for $5.00 with all the production. Thanks to the streamers i have just watched a Polish league match with Gollob, Lindgren etc. Thanks to the streamers i watched the Elite league on Monday and the Swedish meeting on Tuesday. Not "legal" i know, but the technology is like the genie, "It's out of the bottle"

Now for a "Filler" pairs meeting ,with all due respect, you want me to shell out for another single camera stream.

And i, as the customer, say "No thanks"

I know there was opposition to the initial decision to stream Allsvenskan. But the attendance figures for last season showed a sharp increase all round.

Having a 17 year old "techie" son, i subscribe to their thinking that the world has REALLY changed with the internet. You can use it- as an advertising medium. Say to sponsers- we can deliver X number of viewers online, and hopefully they will see value in it. What about approaching the Eskilstuna Tourist Board to advertise on-line with you? Or you can do as you are and demand payment. Sadly this most wonderful of sports is a minority interest for most people. Television is a poor substitute for being there.( until we get "smellovision" ) If it were at all possible, i would be there every week, supporting "my" team. I have no idea what the situation is with Allsvenskan streaming this season. Is this just Smederna or will the fixtures tomorrow require payment? I honestly don't think there will be many if that is the case.

We all love the sport and i hope you can respect a diverging opinion. Regards. Alan.

Edited May 3, 2012 by brandonbee48

[Ghostwalker]

I agree with you Alan. I am also willing to pay

but in that case i expect quality.

Allsvenskan streams. Last season i watched

all but one home meeting at the track.

 

I hope to do so this year as well.

 

I started going to Smederna's meetings in 2003

and i didn't miss one single home meeting.

 

But i just won't spend 50kr for low quality streams.

 

Anyway quite nice meeting so far and yes Alan

the sun IS shining still.

 

Very brave riding from kling in smedernas heat

vs Vargarna. A couple of good heats so far.

Currently there is a break for fence repairs

[brandonbee48]

Anyway quite nice meeting so far and yes Alan

the sun IS shining still.

 

I'll miss that! but there was a lovely Danish one yesterday, even though it interfered with the last two heats

Hope you are well. Alan.

[Ghostwalker]

results:

 

H1:

Griparna 6p

1. Daniel Davidsson 4p

2. Robin Törnqvist 2p

-

Vargarna 3p

3. Daniil Ivanov 0p

4. Tobias Busch 3p

 

H2:

Gnistorna 4p

5. Thomas H Jonasson 4p

6. Mattias Thörnblom EF

-

Hammarby 5p

7. Sebastian Aldén 2+1p

8. Simon Gustafsson 3p

 

H3:

Smederna 3p

9. Magnus Zetterström 3p

10. Rickly Kling 0p

-

Masarna 6p

Antonio Lindbäck 4p

Linus Sundström 2p

 

H4:

Griparna 5p

1. Daniel Davidsson 3p

2. Robin Törnqvist 2+1p

-

Gnistorna 4p

5. Thomas H Jonasson 4p

6. Matthias Thörnblom 0p

 

H5:

Vargarna 2p

3. Daniil Ivanov 2p

4. Tobias Busch 0p

-

Smederna 7p

9. Magnus Zetterström 4p

10. Ricky Kling 3+1p

 

H6:

Hammarby 2p

7. Sebastian Aldén 2p

8. Simon Gustafsson 0p

 

H7:

Griparna 3p

1. Daniel Davidsson 3p

13. John Lindman F/X

-

Hammarby 6p

7, Sebastian Aldén 4p

8. Simon Gustafsson 2p

 

H8:

Griparna 5p

4. Tobias Busch 2+1p

14. Andre Hertzberg 3p

-

Masarna 4p

11. Antonio Lindbäck EF (ef while in the lead)

12. Linus Sundström 4p

 

H9:

Gnistorna 6p

5. Thomas H Jonasson 4p

6. Matthias Thörnblom 2p

-

Smederna 3p

9. Magnus Zetterstöm 3p

10. Ricky Kling 0p

 

H10:

Griparna 2p

1. Daniel Davidsson 0p

2. Robin Törnqvist 2p

-

Smederna 7p

9. Magnus Zetterström 3+1p

10. Ricky Kling 4p

 

H11:

Vargarna 3p

3. Daniil Ivanov 3p

13. Ande Herzberg 0p

-

Hammarby 6p

7. Sebastian Aldén 4p

8. Simon Gustafsson 2p

 

H12:

Gnistorna 3p

5. Thomas H Jonasson 3p

6. Mathias Thörnblom 0p

-

Masarna 6p

11. Antonio Lindbäck 4p

12. Linus Sundström 2p

 

H13:

Griparna 2p

2. Robin Törnqvist 2p

13. John LIndman 0p

-

Masarna 7p

11. Antonio LIndbäck 4p

12. Linus Sundström 3+1p

 

H14:

Vargarna 2p

3. Daniil Ivanov 2p

4. Tobias Busch 0p

-

Gnistorna 7p

5. Thomas H Jonasson 3+1p

6. Matthias Thörnblom 4p

 

H15:

Hammarby 2p

7. Sebastian Aldén 0p

8. Simon Gustafsson 2p

-

Smederna 7p

9. Magnus Zetterström 4p

10. Ricky Kling 3+1p.

 

Final standings:

1. Masarna 30p
   
2. Smederna 27p
   
3. Gnistorna 24p
   

 

All scores are as I filled it in the program.

 

The meeting had a few really good heats. The sun shined almost the entire time but it got quite

cold towards the end.

Edited May 3, 2012 by Ghostwalker

[brandonbee48]

Thank you for your report. Sounds like a good meeting. Shame about the asking price

Regards. Alan.