Stoke V Heathens 21/4/12

[deathbymilkfloat]

can somebody in the know please tell me why the curfew at gloomer rd is 9.30pm

[Heathen1984]

And if curfew is 9.30, why on earth have a 7.30 start when u have to get thru 22 heats, shambles it was

[MrMungo]

can somebody in the know please tell me why the curfew at gloomer rd is 9.30pm

I was reliably informed that the curfew is at 10pm.

However...@ approx 9.30pm Jake Knight had a suspected broken ankle and we were waiting for a county ambulance, which is the norm at most tracks I've visited.

 

Effectively, they had 30 minutes to get Jake Knight seen to and taken to hospital and to stage the next batch of races (4 heats).

This was never likely to happen in 30 minutes time, so someone somewhere made the <correct> decision of calling it off early and to ensure that no more time was wasted.

[Baldy]

Read again and u might understand, u aint that stupid. Yeh two riders rode well but sumthin aint right when 4 riders av to pull out. 12 heats completed out off 22 is a joke, as many stokes fans were sayin there aswell.

Who say's our education system isn't failing. Still can't get "inly". Seems like it always happens at our place. I too was surprised that we had 7.30 start as well but, not sure if true; BSPA say the timing of this type of meeting. More than two riders rode well; I just named two to give an example. Not only rode well but in good times too and if you had been there you should of seen that. There were problems on 3 and 4 and they should of been sorted as soon as seen but no rider I presume asked for the ref to come down to the track and the ref did not see a cause to come down. I can only gather from that they thought it was safe to carry on riding. It would be interesting if any of the riders who rode there or have rode at Stoke could give us a view. I could be wrong but if some riders can ride it and others can't, it points to the riders who can ride that type of track and the ones that can not.

Edited April 15, 2012 by Steeplejack

[Derek 613]

Who say's our education system isn't failing. Still can't get "anly". Seems like it always happens at our place. I too was surprised that we had 7.30 start as well but, not sure if true; BSPA say the timing of this type of meeting. More than two riders rode well; I just named two to give an example. Not only rode well but in good times too and if you had been there you should of seen that. There were problems on 3 and 4 and they should of been sorted as soon as seen but no rider I presume asked for the ref to come down to the track and the ref did not see a cause to come down. I can only gather from that they thought it was safe to carry on riding. It would be interesting if any of the riders who rode there or have rode at Stoke could give us a view. I could be wrong but if some riders can ride it and others can't, it points to the riders who can ride that type of track and the ones that can not.

 

As I was in the referees' box I can confirm that no rider asked for a track grade never mind a track inspection.

 

As Neil Vatcher GB Under-21 manager said in an interview after "it was a case of the riders over trying as they all wanted to qualify for the final."

Edited April 15, 2012 by Derek 613

[trophykid]

There is a separate thread for this fixture, but of course the knockers come straight to this one. No constructive criticism offered, just attacks on Stoke Speedway whatever happened. Something in the past have been unprofessional , but not everything. The tone of some of the posts is one of malicious glee, at any piece of misfortune or incident. If the toast got burned at loomer road there'd be a thread on here moaning about it.

 

There is a separate thread for this fixture, but of course the knockers come straight to this one. No constructive criticism offered, just attacks on Stoke Speedway whatever happened. Somethings in the past have been unprofessional , but not everything. The tone of some of the posts is one of malicious glee, at any piece of misfortune or incident. If the toast got burned at loomer road there'd be a thread on here moaning about it.

[griffo]

I was reliably informed that the curfew is at 10pm.

However...@ approx 9.30pm Jake Knight had a suspected broken ankle and we were waiting for a county ambulance, which is the norm at most tracks I've visited.

 

Effectively, they had 30 minutes to get Jake Knight seen to and taken to hospital and to stage the next batch of races (4 heats).

This was never likely to happen in 30 minutes time, so someone somewhere made the <correct> decision of calling it off early and to ensure that no more time was wasted.

 

Hi the Curfew is actually 9-30 pm the reason being that originally there was no curfew at all but then due to Stock Cars one weekend ,which was a 2 day affair some of the Drivers were still running and reving their cars at Midnight and after , the council put the Curfew time at 9-30 and it has been ever since,so in no way was Stoke Speedway responsible for the curfew

Cheers Griffo

[griffo]

Who say's our education system isn't failing. Still can't get "inly". Seems like it always happens at our place. I too was surprised that we had 7.30 start as well but, not sure if true; BSPA say the timing of this type of meeting. More than two riders rode well; I just named two to give an example. Not only rode well but in good times too and if you had been there you should of seen that. There were problems on 3 and 4 and they should of been sorted as soon as seen but no rider I presume asked for the ref to come down to the track and the ref did not see a cause to come down. I can only gather from that they thought it was safe to carry on riding. It would be interesting if any of the riders who rode there or have rode at Stoke could give us a view. I could be wrong but if some riders can ride it and others can't, it points to the riders who can ride that type of track and the ones that can not.

 

As i have said previously Steeplejack no good knocking when theres no one there with the same old Stoke knocker .really has a downer on Stoke doesn`t he

[Swift Saint]

As i have said previously Steeplejack no good knocking when theres no one there with the same old Stoke knocker .really has a downer on Stoke doesn`t he

 

I think he is till digesting that huge defeat we inflicted on them last season at Monmore. He wasn't quite so prominent after that

 

Malcolm Vasey

[Heathen1984]

Haha u on about me there. That victory at monmore was deserved by stoke and fair play deserved it, dudley were awful. Its all about winning trophys at the end of the day aint it and pretty sure we won more than you lot last season. Haha ommer um.

Just my opinion that when ever i go there, its just endless problems.

[greyhoundp]

Malcolm, yep you beat us fair and square last year, but also at YOUR home meeting we had to wait hours for medical staff to turn up, this year you have already had your pre season race off put back, light failures, meetings cut short, and its not even the end of april.

 

Surely as a Director of Stoke speedway, you and Mr Tatum by now should know how to put on a Speedway meeting, if things continue ar they are up there there is only one thing going to happen, Your own fans will drift away, and they wont come back, I know of many Heathens fans who have vowed never to return, but most of them probably will, but they will think twice before they do, the costs of getting to meetings is getting out of hand, luckily for you at Stoke you are pretty local to us at Dudley, so its not to bad, but Malcolm surely YOU of all people must realise things have to be put right up there,i really feel sorry for long suffering supporters such as Vog, who have to put up with this never ending catalogue of mishaps that seem to happen up there. Hopefully now that you are a director you can have more of an influence on what goes on, or if its only a Dressing up excercise to have you on board, then your hard earned reputation gained over many years will suffer as a consequence.

[ChubbyChesgire]

Its all about winning trophys at the end of the day aint it and pretty sure we won more than you lot last season.

 

Err no you didn't - we both won one - you won the Fours and we won the Pairs !

[deathbymilkfloat]

iv got to agree with heathen1984,stoke speedway is a joke,last season the ko cup match v dudley the start was delayed by 2 hours because someone had forgot to book the paramedic(i wonder if this was done on purpose as it was a scorching day so the several hundred dudley fans will spend more money on booze and food therefore lining the stoke managements pockets with extra revenue),then there was meetings when the track lights failed,and that has already happened again this season v iow,then there was saturdays fiasco with a poxy 9.30pm curfew,why start a meeting with a scheduled 22 races at 7.30pm,which meant trying to squeeze 22 races into 2 hours,why not start meeting at 6.30pm or even have it on the sunday afternoon,going back to the 9.30pm curfew why was this not implemented at several meetings which i attended last season and there was racing still going on past the allotted curew time,i admire all the potters fans who still attend the meetings as they must be die hard speedway fans,as i for one would have gave it up as a bad job at loomer road.

[ChubbyChesgire]

Yawn - this record appears to be on repeat !

 

Now I don't want to be controversial, but I'm going to discuss the subject that this topic is supposed to be about ! So given the weather forecast - what do we reckon the chances of this meeting going ahead ?!

 

Well we can hope that as this April's weather is what it's supposed to be like (rather than the heatwaves we've come accustomed to the last few years), perhaps we are in for a good summer ?! I can dream !

Edited April 17, 2012 by ChubbyCheshire

[vog]

iv got to agree with heathen1984,stoke speedway is a joke,last season the ko cup match v dudley the start was delayed by 2 hours because someone had forgot to book the paramedic(i wonder if this was done on purpose as it was a scorching day so the several hundred dudley fans will spend more money on booze and food therefore lining the stoke managements pockets with extra revenue),

 

I'm pretty sure this was the meeting the day after Cardiff? Where the original paramedic let us down, and the replacement was stuck on the M6 after a death on the roads. So it wasn't because "Someone had forgot to book the paramedic" at all.

 

then there was meetings when the track lights failed,and that has already happened again this season v iow,

 

And has, as far as I am aware, been sorted by Stoke going back to mains power. If that happens again, it will be a power cut that is nothing to do with Stoke Speedway.

 

then there was saturdays fiasco with a poxy 9.30pm curfew,why start a meeting with a scheduled 22 races at 7.30pm,which meant trying to squeeze 22 races into 2 hours,why not start meeting at 6.30pm or even have it on the sunday afternoon,

 

Did Stoke set the start time? Or the date? Maybe the Sunday afternoon was kept as a final rain off date, just incase? Did Stoke cause numerous falls? No, but it seems to be a time to slate Stoke.

 

going back to the 9.30pm curfew why was this not implemented at several meetings which i attended last season and there was racing still going on past the allotted curew time,i admire all the potters fans who still attend the meetings as they must be die hard speedway fans,as i for one would have gave it up as a bad job at loomer road.

 

From what I recall, it is 9:30, but if we have to go over we have to document it. By time the ambulance would have gotten there, then having to run a further 4 heats could have taken well past 10pm, and that just isn't on.

 

Is Stoke the most professional of clubs? Not always. Does it deserve the amount of criticism coming from a couple of Dudley fans? Not a chance. But alas, I can't change that, so blame away. Just, don't let actual facts hold you back.

[Heathen1984]

Thank you vog im not outbto slag stoke speedway off but several times now i av visited, its just been endless problems, its no fun when your there, even stoke fans had enuff saturday.

 

Chubby we won national shield aswell mate, not bad considering we were poor last season, so mr vasey its all about winning things.

[griffo]

iv got to agree with heathen1984,stoke speedway is a joke,last season the ko cup match v dudley the start was delayed by 2 hours because someone had forgot to book the paramedic(i wonder if this was done on purpose as it was a scorching day so the several hundred dudley fans will spend more money on booze and food therefore lining the stoke managements pockets with extra revenue),then there was meetings when the track lights failed,and that has already happened again this season v iow,then there was saturdays fiasco with a poxy 9.30pm curfew,why start a meeting with a scheduled 22 races at 7.30pm,which meant trying to squeeze 22 races into 2 hours,why not start meeting at 6.30pm or even have it on the sunday afternoon,going back to the 9.30pm curfew why was this not implemented at several meetings which i attended last season and there was racing still going on past the allotted curew time,i admire all the potters fans who still attend the meetings as they must be die hard speedway fans,as i for one would have gave it up as a bad job at loomer road.

Hi I was not there on Saturday so I cannot comment on what went on,but on hearing from someone who was there the amount of falls and re-runs wasted a lot of the time, and the injury to the rider that had to be taken to Hospital and having to wait for the emergency ambulance led to the Cancellation of the meeting after the twelfth heat.People have said there should be 2 ambulances, Stoke are not the only team to have only one others do as well and do as Stoke do and call in the local Ambulance Service. also no racing can take place when the Paramedic is attending to the Patient. Your reference to you might think it was done on purpose when the Paramedic did not arrive is completely wrong ,the paramedic was booked but there was a mix up in dates from their end not stokes.Getting to the Curfew as there was still 10 races to be run on Saturday and it was 9-30 then it would have gone on far to long afterwads. There can be a slight overun ,say due to injuries but then a report as to be made to the council but the time on Saturday would have been way over. There is a very sad person that puts down every minute over the time the meetings end and sends it into the council.

[builderbob]

lets face it stoke are not only cheats but rubbish as well. dont give stoke the big meetings let the iow put them on

[Swift Saint]

lets face it stoke are not only cheats but rubbish as well. dont give stoke the big meetings let the iow put them on

 

Please detail our so called cheating or is that just keyboard bravery?

 

Thank You

 

Malcolm Vasey

[Baldy]

Yawn - this record appears to be on repeat !

 

Now I don't want to be controversial, but I'm going to discuss the subject that this topic is supposed to be about ! So given the weather forecast - what do we reckon the chances of this meeting going ahead ?!

 

Well we can hope that as this April's weather is what it's supposed to be like (rather than the heatwaves we've come accustomed to the last few years), perhaps we are in for a good summer ?! I can dream !

I think it might be a Saturday night without speedway....at least at Stoke. It's rain, rain and more rain for the next 4 to 5 days. If the lads cannot get on the track to prepare the racing surface then no chance of a meeting. Pity, hope I'm wrong as looking forward to this meeting.