Nobblytriers Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Hello all, I have been reading the debate on track shape for a while now. I also think it is wrong, I think by moving the inside curb back up the straits a good way would give more lines into the corner. at the moment the track looks like it has a D each end. I could not understand why it was so hard to move the drains away from the inside curbs?? I thought all you would have to do was remove the covers, lower them and seal them off, the put new drain holes further in to the infield. could still keep the drainage system that was there but would just have to run pipes under ground to the original holes. But I am told this can not be done due to the fact that it is not like a normal drainage system where the water just flows away, but in fact under the bends are big water tanks that collect all the water, and they would need to be moved, I think that is where the great expense would come in?? I am not a ground worker so would not really know how much it would cost ? Or how long it would take to do?? If the info I have been given is wrong then I am sorry, and hope some one could put me right, but if it is correct they it may explain why it has not been done? That's what I was thinking and I asked earlier if anyone knew how the drains were constructed. I can't see it being a big job if it's as you've described but I can't find anywhere that shows you how the drainage system is put together. Can anyone shed any light on this? These tanks could be settlement tanks . When the water drains off the track it takes some of the surface with it. The track material settles in the tank and is then pumped out and reused on the track. I beleive this is what happens but perhaps Tsunami could put me right on this. If that's the case then maybe BTFC's solution could still be used? Also, I've noticed some coloured markers around the bends on the infield at BP. Are these for where new drains could go ... or maybe the new white line? Is there something already planned and we've just got be patient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) isnt it time that DH spoke up about IF changes are going to be made to the track or not before the club lose more fans Edited May 4, 2012 by robert72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 isnt it time that DH spoke up about IF changes are going to be made to the track or not before the club lose more fans Why don't you phone him and suggest that's what you think he should do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Why don't you phone him and suggest that's what you think he should do then? do you have his number then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 That's what I was thinking and I asked earlier if anyone knew how the drains were constructed. I can't see it being a big job if it's as you've described but I can't find anywhere that shows you how the drainage system is put together. Can anyone shed any light on this? If that's the case then maybe BTFC's solution could still be used? Also, I've noticed some coloured markers around the bends on the infield at BP. Are these for where new drains could go ... or maybe the new white line? Is there something already planned and we've just got be patient? Thanks for your reply, nice to see that I was not alone in my thinking. Could any one tell me ? If my idea was to be done, how difficult would it be to add more shale and get it to bind with the surface that has been there for nearly a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 do you have his number then ? Its in the programme!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Thanks for your reply, nice to see that I was not alone in my thinking. Could any one tell me ? If my idea was to be done, how difficult would it be to add more shale and get it to bind with the surface that has been there for nearly a year now. I think it is possible, look at how they bind in shale to make cardiff and copenhagon, dont think it would be a hard job with the right tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Adding in more clay to the shale mix would help bind it together and would produce more grip. I Think you will find most tracks classed as grippy have a good amount of clay in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Following the updates for the Somerset match, I thought the meeting was at Leicester for the first ten heats. Heat 7 was the only heat where passing took place after the back straight on the first lap. Fortunately, things livened up in the last five heats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 What no track deabte today???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 What no track deabte today???? I think Jackson and Robert should write to DH and complain that the racing is too good at BP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainlion Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I think Jackson and Robert should write to DH and complain that the racing is too good at BP!! Thinking of the saving, 1 stamp and 1 envelope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Thinking of the saving, 1 stamp and 1 envelope Far too cryptic Bornagain . You'll have to spell it out Edited May 6, 2012 by speedibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I think Jackson and Robert should write to DH and complain that the racing is too good at BP!! when was that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIE-JA Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 when was that ? Last week and the week before that you thick pillock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 dont rise to nobert72 he will be back at school tomorrow,busy doing his paper round after school then his homework so hopefully he will go quiet on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Last week and the week before that you thick pillock. you and nob should sell those glasses you wear because BP would be packed solid each week if people saw what you 2 idiots think you see each week, riders,promotors and many,many fans have expressed the SHAPE IS WRONG TO PRODUCE RACING.AND NEEDS CHANGING 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 you and nob should sell those glasses you wear because BP would be packed solid each week if people saw what you 2 idiots think you see each week, riders,promotors and many,many fans have expressed the SHAPE IS WRONG TO PRODUCE RACING.AND NEEDS CHANGING you forgot the shale nobert72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIE-JA Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 you and nob should sell those glasses you wear because BP would be packed solid each week if people saw what you 2 idiots think you see each week, riders,promotors and many,many fans have expressed the SHAPE IS WRONG TO PRODUCE RACING.AND NEEDS CHANGING Then why has there been some good, entertaining racing you retarded moron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobblytriers Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I think wie-ja has a point, though I can't say I agree with the last part of his sentence I think that there's definitely been an improvement in the last couple of meetings, and this is without any change to the track shape. Maybe it's the amount of water, or the depth of shale or the type ... I don't know. Others have suggested that it's because the riders in the last two meetings have been more equally matched. Maybe so. What is interesting is what seems to be happening at Glasgow. They spent alot of money on track changes (I'm not sure when they were made - anyone know?) and despite winning the league last year, the crowds have gone. Winning on it's own is not enough. Apparently, the racing isn't very good, so I'm reading, so although they've changed the track to make the racing better, it hasn't worked. Does that mean that it's not just down to track shape and this is why DH hasn't gone down that path? If BP is shaped like Wolverhampton, how come there was a cracking meeting there just over a week ago? If it's just down to the shape then I would expect the racing at Wolves to be way below what was on TV a few nights ago and be pretty much the same as BP. I hope that things are on the up now for the Lions and for the racing at BP. We've got some good racers in the team and it's been good to watch them race in the last couple of outings. Keep going Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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