robert72 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 To stop your constant moaning!! you can say moaning others will say speaking sense about the glum future of leicester speedway unless changes are made sooner than later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 you can say moaning others will say speaking sense about the glum future of leicester speedway unless changes are made sooner than later. would that be the shape and the shale your talking about nobert72? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 you can say moaning others will say speaking sense about the glum future of leicester speedway unless changes are made sooner than later. Over the last few weeks I have tried to be fair and constructive with my statements. I am not happy with the racing yet I have written a constructive letter to DH and recieved a reply within 7 days. I dont believe in senseless moaning. I have also stated on this forum how I feel the shape of the track is not the whole problem as the racing was a lot better during the latter part of last season when Glyn prepared the track differently putting more emphasis on grip on the outside and silicker on the inside. I do not feel that it is wise to change the track mid season, especially with the weather being as it has been recently. I shall continue to go to BP and hope that the racing is improved by changing the track surface; but this may annoy the riders!! Incidently, as I have stated previously, DH was not happy with the racing during the testimonal meeting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Over the last few weeks I have tried to be fair and constructive with my statements. I am not happy with the racing yet I have written a constructive letter to DH and recieved a reply within 7 days. I dont believe in senseless moaning. I have also stated on this forum how I feel the shape of the track is not the whole problem as the racing was a lot better during the latter part of last season when Glyn prepared the track differently putting more emphasis on grip on the outside and silicker on the inside. I do not feel that it is wise to change the track mid season, especially with the weather being as it has been recently. I shall continue to go to BP and hope that the racing is improved by changing the track surface; but this may annoy the riders!! Incidently, as I have stated previously, DH was not happy with the racing during the testimonal meeting. So are you going to tell us what was said in the reply ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobblytriers Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Whatever all Lions fans think about Coventry and their track, I must admit that it looks like you Bees are in for some exciting speedway this year with the riders you have. Looking forward to meeting you next year providing DH can get the track right at BP. Who remembers the East Midland Bowl? Hi John, are you suggesting (or do you know) that we'll be racing against Cov next season? Would that be a one off thing or are we going Elite League next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hi John, are you suggesting (or do you know) that we'll be racing against Cov next season? Would that be a one off thing or are we going Elite League next year? Hemsleys wallet is not fat enough , it would be the end of leicester to join the failing Elite league , having said that his ego is big enough for him to believe he could survive with the big hitters ,so it's not completly out of the question 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd7244 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hi John, are you suggesting (or do you know) that we'll be racing against Cov next season? Would that be a one off thing or are we going Elite League next year? I'm afraid that parting shot of mine was a bit tongue in cheek, but as I recall, before the start of last season in a report by the "Leicester Mercury". Dh's hopes and ambition for the club was to consolidate for the first year, challenge for honours this year, and then if everything went well, he would apply to get into the top flight in the near future. But as we and DH know, it aint gonna happen unless he and his staff can turn things round trackwise. I still live in hope though. It would be great to see the Lions mauling the Bees again, although to be truthful it didn't happen very often, and I can go back to 1949 when I was a little lad in short pants. JohnD7244 Enjoy your speedway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionsDen Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hemsleys wallet is not fat enough , it would be the end of leicester to join the failing Elite league , having said that his ego is big enough for him to believe he could survive with the big hitters ,so it's not completly out of the question In a letter to Leicester's shareholders last week (about 5 I think!) he stated that the Elite League was his intention. Ego or Sky money. It's either one - or both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'm afraid that parting shot of mine was a bit tongue in cheek, but as I recall, before the start of last season in a report by the "Leicester Mercury". Dh's hopes and ambition for the club was to consolidate for the first year, challenge for honours this year, and then if everything went well, he would apply to get into the top flight in the near future. But as we and DH know, it aint gonna happen unless he and his staff can turn things round trackwise. I still live in hope though. It would be great to see the Lions mauling the Bees again, although to be truthful it didn't happen very often, and I can go back to 1949 when I was a little lad in short pants. JohnD7244 Enjoy your speedway. Why should the track be a problem to enter the EL? apart from yet another excuse to bring it up. After all Belle Vue are i the Elite League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Why should the track be a problem to enter the EL? apart from yet another excuse to bring it up. After all Belle Vue are i the Elite League leicester and belle vue are both letting there fans down with tracks not fit for racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 leicester and belle vue are both letting there fans down with tracks not fit for racing. is that to do with the shape and the shale by any chance nobert72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd7244 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Why should the track be a problem to enter the EL? apart from yet another excuse to bring it up. After all Belle Vue are i the Elite League On reflection you could be right. It definitely wouldn't be the worst track in the Elite. Watched the Eastbourne v King's Lynn match, and that was absolutely diabolical. Two genuine passes all night. JohnD7244 Enjoy your speedway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 So are you going to tell us what was said in the reply ? Try reading my previous threads. Hemsleys wallet is not fat enough , it would be the end of leicester to join the failing Elite league , having said that his ego is big enough for him to believe he could survive with the big hitters ,so it's not completly out of the question At the Q and A session pre season he said it was the long term aim to go EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) leicester and belle vue are both letting there fans down with tracks not fit for racing. Sorry I don't agree Leicester and Belle Vue would be letting the fans down if they stuck 2 fingers up at the sport and turned round and walked away, which is what I would do . I don't see a queue forming to take them over. At the Q and A session pre season he said it was the long term aim to go EL. U are quite right of course he also said it at the 'Long Eaton reunion Do' so not just talking off the cuff either. I have to say if it does go EL i'm not sure I would enjoy it as much. I don't get star struck Edited May 3, 2012 by TMW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Tina, how can you defend both clubs, belle vue have had all winter as have leicester, both tracks needed work, both promotions failed and let the fans down and the riders, ask belle vue fans and ask a large majority of leicester fans and you would get the same answer, racing what racing. I think there would be a few people interested in buying leicester if it was up for sale at the right price, its got a great chance of success with the right person in control and would have massive support if the product was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Sorry I don't agree Leicester and Belle Vue would be letting the fans down if they stuck 2 fingers up at the sport and turned round and walked away, which is what I would do . I don't see a queue forming to take them over. U are quite right of course he also said it at the 'Long Eaton reunion Do' so not just talking off the cuff either. I have to say if it does go EL i'm not sure I would enjoy it as much. I don't get star struck You certainly would'nt enjoy it for long . he would be bankrupt half way through the first season and Leicester would close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Tina, how can you defend both clubs, belle vue have had all winter as have leicester, both tracks needed work, both promotions failed and let the fans down and the riders, ask belle vue fans and ask a large majority of leicester fans and you would get the same answer, racing what racing. I think there would be a few people interested in buying leicester if it was up for sale at the right price, its got a great chance of success with the right person in control and would have massive support if the product was right. Belle Vue don't own their stadium and aren't able to make changes apart from the GH taking priority every penny they have is going into the new stadium which is costing a fortune. Leicester, I believe are spent up aswell. I would say that work which was done as a good will gesture last year is being called in now that Ken Naylor is no longer involved, reading between the lines from LionsDen. You certainly would'nt enjoy it for long . he would be bankrupt half way through the first season and Leicester would close Not at all I would say. Like Cardiff I only go for the atmosphere you can keep the rest I don't wnat to drag this thread out anymore so this will be my last word on the subject. Not defending anyone just defending my point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hello all, I have been reading the debate on track shape for a while now. I also think it is wrong, I think by moving the inside curb back up the straits a good way would give more lines into the corner. at the moment the track looks like it has a D each end. I could not understand why it was so hard to move the drains away from the inside curbs?? I thought all you would have to do was remove the covers, lower them and seal them off, the put new drain holes further in to the infield. could still keep the drainage system that was there but would just have to run pipes under ground to the original holes. But I am told this can not be done due to the fact that it is not like a normal drainage system where the water just flows away, but in fact under the bends are big water tanks that collect all the water, and they would need to be moved, I think that is where the great expense would come in?? I am not a ground worker so would not really know how much it would cost ? Or how long it would take to do?? If the info I have been given is wrong then I am sorry, and hope some one could put me right, but if it is correct they it may explain why it has not been done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Belle Vue don't own their stadium and aren't able to make changes apart from the GH taking priority every penny they have is going into the new stadium which is costing a fortune. Leicester, I believe are spent up aswell. I would say that work which was done as a good will gesture last year is being called in now that Ken Naylor is no longer involved, reading between the lines from LionsDen. Not at all I would say. Like Cardiff I only go for the atmosphere you can keep the rest I don't wnat to drag this thread out anymore so this will be my last word on the subject. Not defending anyone just defending my point of view So leicester are in real trouble then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Hello all, I have been reading the debate on track shape for a while now. I also think it is wrong, I think by moving the inside curb back up the straits a good way would give more lines into the corner. at the moment the track looks like it has a D each end. I could not understand why it was so hard to move the drains away from the inside curbs?? I thought all you would have to do was remove the covers, lower them and seal them off, the put new drain holes further in to the infield. could still keep the drainage system that was there but would just have to run pipes under ground to the original holes. But I am told this can not be done due to the fact that it is not like a normal drainage system where the water just flows away, but in fact under the bends are big water tanks that collect all the water, and they would need to be moved, I think that is where the great expense would come in?? I am not a ground worker so would not really know how much it would cost ? Or how long it would take to do?? If the info I have been given is wrong then I am sorry, and hope some one could put me right, but if it is correct they it may explain why it has not been done? These tanks could be settlement tanks . When the water drains off the track it takes some of the surface with it. The track material settles in the tank and is then pumped out and reused on the track. I beleive this is what happens but perhaps Tsunami could put me right on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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