Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 how do market a team thats basically sub nl standard. Except that this is NOT the case... As Steve & Laurence have said this is NOT a weak team to the extent being portrayed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Try reading some of the thread. The IoW is a MASSIVE circuit, couldn't be more alien to the USA lads. And still they were holding their own by end of the meeting (see below). RH is a much more suitable track size-wise for the Americans. A shame after the terrible blow of losing tonight's meeting that so many on here want to try and compromise Saturday's one too by claiming it's not worth attending... After heat 9 you might have thought that with a 40-14 scoreline BUT in the last six races once they were dialled in to the bikes and track we actually outscored the Islanders 19-17 !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 iow score? suggest you read the IOW website report which gives a fair and unbiased view of the meeting. I could also post what the ref Chris Gay sent me as a text last night if he was okay with me doing this. If you look back at the first ever tour match in 2005 at Stoke when the Dream Team had non stop bike troubles but went on to have a superb tour --- then perhaps you are being hasty in writing this team off? As you were clearly not at the IOW and have not read what has been said then you are being most unfair on the USA Future team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMGracing Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 suggest you read the IOW website report which gives a fair and unbiased view of the meeting. I could also post what the ref Chris Gay sent me as a text last night if he was okay with me doing this. If you look back at the first ever tour match in 2005 at Stoke when the Dream Team had non stop bike troubles but went on to have a superb tour --- then perhaps you are being hasty in writing this team off? As you were clearly not at the IOW and have not read what has been said then you are being most unfair on the USA Future team. The old black tape on the fuel caps huh Laurence.Black caps with black tape.Its almost impossible for a touring side to win any first meeting.Even when we brought over our own equipment it was tough to compete as the engines were not set up for the big tracks.If you look at the scores of the early Dream Teams 2005 through early 2010 we were very competetive. Somehow after that point the rider talent dropped or availability. This tour has a agenda to get the under 21 riders ready for the Ukraine. Support these young guys as we would support any British riders coming over to the USA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 As you were clearly not at the IOW and have not read what has been said then you are being most unfair on the USA Future team. I dont think so, just want ppl to be realistic about the team, if the U21 was the focus you would be better hiring a continental track and practicing as british tracks are nothing like the big continental tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonsDen Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 suggest you read the IOW website report which gives a fair and unbiased view of the meeting. http://www.iowislanders.co/news_11Apr2012.html Just read it - Can't say it is a very flattering report: “Wightlink Islanders had it all their own way in last night encounter with the USA Future touring team producing an untroubled 57-33 victory.” “The Statesiders had only a single heat victory to their name which came their way when the heavens opened at the start of heat 13. Apart from that the Islanders were relatively untroubled throughout the meeting.” “The home side men led from the start bursting into a massive 18 point lead as early as heat 5.” "Although not the strongest team in the World fair play to USA Future when the rough weather came they adapted to it better” Had it been around the corner I would have attended this meeting but for me it's not worth the £50+ round trip, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Okay I am really looking forward to this. I remember us getting cocky a couple of years ago and winning, I think, by only a single point. We do have four genuine heat leaders at NL level but a very very long tail. The yanks may not win but if thjeir previous efforts are anything to go by they will give it a go and be entertaining. And you never know one may just be a future Rocket. We are getting way too fussy as supporters. It was nt that long ago when we were out of business and would have prayed for any meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Okay I am really looking forward to this. I remember us getting cocky a couple of years ago and winning, I think, by only a single point. We do have four genuine heat leaders at NL level but a very very long tail. The yanks may not win but if thjeir previous efforts are anything to go by they will give it a go and be entertaining. And you never know one may just be a future Rocket. We are getting way too fussy as supporters. It was nt that long ago when we were out of business and would have prayed for any meeting. I agree. And also aren't people just the slightest bit interested in seeing some new names riding... One of the American team is a certain Greg Hancock's nephew for goodness sake...: aren't RH patrons not just a bit curious to see how he goes and then onwards with his career..? Seems some folk just want the same boring old fare week in week out and when something a bit different comes along they don't wanna know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 You are right Rockets the tail is where the U.S.A may pick up a few points and good use of tactical rides in the right heats may produce a few more ..We have to remember that the U.S.A lads are on borrowed equiptment some of which may not be that great .. I dont however expect our top 4 to be dropping many points though,,,.With the u.s.a being used to small tracks they may well perform better at Rye than the I.O.W . I hope so ,,cant be there myself as im working that night..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I suppose you can't please everyone all the time. Hiring a continental track and practicing would be even more money to find and will not give the riders competitive racing as they require. Also there are a fair number of speedway fans who enjoy watching the USA boys --and a very hard working UK committee of people who work damn hard to make sure the tours are a success. I have had an approach to bring a team of young Dutch riders to race in the UK on a short tour but wonder what response they would receive from the critics of touring sides ? For God's sake give all these boys a chance . It has cost them a small fortune to be here and they come with the ambitions of impressing and maybe getting a UK team berth one day as well as having bigger goals. Off my soapbox now !! See you at Coventry on Friday , Rye House Saturday and Buxton Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 The Dutch riders were a great success riding at Sittingbourne and I think a tour of riders from the Netherlands would be a brilliant idea! Go for it mate!! Remember a sizeable number of the RH 'fans' who post on here are constantly finding reasons NOT to go to NL matches at Rye, so I wouldn't guage too much from it if I were you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 If my wife feels well enough, we're hoping to travel down to this meeting, and shall be leaving home at around 1.30pm. Any up to date weather reports would be greatly appreciated, especially if you are in close proximity to the stadium. It should be a very good nights racing, so let's hope the weather holds out. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 The Dutch riders were a great success riding at Sittingbourne and I think a tour of riders from the Netherlands would be a brilliant idea! Go for it mate!! Remember a sizeable number of the RH 'fans' who post on here are constantly finding reasons NOT to go to NL matches at Rye, so I wouldn't guage too much from it if I were you!! Yes and those same Rye House supporters have the right to attend or not as in much the same way that they have the right to add their thoughts to a thread that contains the title RYE HOUSE. Rye charge a lot of money for admission and fans expect to be entertained. Sometimes in sub standard meetings such as the last USA meeting value for money was simply not there. It has nothing to do with supporters being anti NL. It's a shame that there are certain people who continually come on here to knock fans who pick and chose when are where they spend their hard earned money.For me personally i have always had a soft spot for the American riders and would love to see some real improvement and development. I will be there and i wish them well for not only this tour but also the trip to the Ukraine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I suppose you can't please everyone all the time. Hiring a continental track and practicing would be even more money to find and will not give the riders competitive racing as they require.So you think bouncing around the IOW will in any way prepare them for the U21? At least your honest about the real reason, the hope 1 might get a break in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Dekker -- it was a competitive meeting and that's what the riders want. These tours --this being the 9th --- have been going on since 2005 and the rider's aim is to get noticed as Chris Kerr, Kenny Ingalls and Tyson Burmeister did . But this one was actually added to give them track time and experience on the way to the Ukraine for the under 21 wtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Last Rye House vs. USA match I saw there might possibly have been another since I missed..) was in April 2010 and the result was Rye House 47 USA 46...!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I sincerly hope this is a good entertaining meeting ,,that the riders stay safe,, and the weather is fine,, unfortunatly while i would love to be there to support our Ben and the rest of the lads I have a gig in hampshire tonight...Not happy but we all have to work sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I suppose you can't please everyone all the time. Hiring a continental track and practicing would be even more money to find and will not give the riders competitive racing as they require. Also there are a fair number of speedway fans who enjoy watching the USA boys --and a very hard working UK committee of people who work damn hard to make sure the tours are a success. I have had an approach to bring a team of young Dutch riders to race in the UK on a short tour but wonder what response they would receive from the critics of touring sides ? For God's sake give all these boys a chance . It has cost them a small fortune to be here and they come with the ambitions of impressing and maybe getting a UK team berth one day as well as having bigger goals. Off my soapbox now !! See you at Coventry on Friday , Rye House Saturday and Buxton Sunday. and you haven't mentioned the benefit to the brit lads who ride against them what they gain from it. I know it's not the same tour but the meeting at Leicester last year was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Yes and those same Rye House supporters have the right to attend or not as in much the same way that they have the right to add their thoughts to a thread that contains the title RYE HOUSE.Personally I prefer to spend my hard earned money following the Rockets away from home.garrity is a national league rider he is no bettter than a lot of the nl boysHe is the curent NL Riders champion which suggests he is better than the vast majority of the NL boys Edited April 14, 2012 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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