Daniel Smith Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Congratulations too King's Lynn, Peterborough, Rye House, Mildenhall, Ipswich & Lakeside in introducing this league. All matches will take part after the main teams apart from Lakeside which will be before all Lakeside meetings. They will consist of 6 heat 4 rider teams. Fantastic, bring on the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Good idea but where are the riders going to come from? Ipswich haven't run a proper 2nd half for anumber of season now, only having an after meeting practise session for whoever turns up and normally most of these are often a couple of under 15's, and foriegn guys who'd probably be ineligible for such a League! I hope it goes well but unless we can find more youngsters interested enough and/or able to have a go then such a League may struggle although such a League may indeed do exactly that! Edited February 5, 2012 by 25yearfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Great to see this in the South. A learning League for riders before they move into the National League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve povey Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 This is fantastic news what is most encouraging is that Jon Cook has iniated this league which means promoters are realising that these kids are the riders of tomorrow, so well done to all involved and lets see more of these leagues in the rest of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve povey Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Does anyone know the details of the league engine sizes, age groups etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) The main thing is to ensure that teams are equally balanced. What points limitations will be placed on participating clubs? Edited February 4, 2012 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 This League has to be taken seriously with a proper piece in programmes for people to fill out and results, averages and League tables published in the speedway star. It also has to be taken seriously in terms of team make ups. NL riders with starting averages of 6 or over should be excluded and teams should only include 2 NL riders per meeting. Riders should be signed to a particular team and shouldn't be able to ride for a number of teams as this would make this farcical. One aspect of team line ups that shouldn't be taken to seriously is the strength. Obviously if a club has a glut of riders they are going to use the best of the lot but Tactical substitutions shouldn't be used so riders will get their full quota of rides. If theirs a reason for one of the top 3 riders to not take rides then both the lowest two averaged riders in the team can take one extra ride each! The junior Leagues of the late 70's up until 1992 worked well but by then their had been a definate need for a 3rd Division which finally came about in 1994. In current times, the existing NL is needed but theirs also a need for a level below it as the NL has become very competitive. The Midlands League and Northern Leagues have filled the gaps inthese areas and hopefully this new Anglian League will do the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 May have been an assumption by me but I've took this league as an under 16 with no NL team place hence being a Junior League. Would be no benefit if NL riders are accepted????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 May have been an assumption by me but I've took this league as an under 16 with no NL team place hence being a Junior League. Would be no benefit if NL riders are accepted????? I don't think it would do any harm having 1 NL rider in the team. A young reserve, for example guys like Josh Bates, Max Clegg, Daniel Phillips, etc. Would be a good way for the non-NL riders to see how close they are to being NL standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I would say up to a 6 point NL average is way to high and also 2 NL riders out of 4 is too many. For me this league is for young riders to gain experience in team racing and to to get ready for NL teams. Personally I have no problem with 1 NL reserve per team but no more and no riders who have ridden at NL heat leader or above. If you look at some of the reserves this season they are still very inexperienced and this league would help them. It will also give some riders without a team spot the chance to show what they can do. Rules are going to have to agreed and stuck to. If they are then this can only be a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) May have been an assumption by me but I've took this league as an under 16 with no NL team place hence being a Junior League. Would be no benefit if NL riders are accepted????? And putting it in this section is only going to compound the problem, I would say. It is a Junior (inexperienced) league not a youth (age related) league. I imagine there wil be some MX riders making the switch competeing and they may not be 16. I'm of the understanding that it will follow the rules of the MDL & NJL in previous seasons with some ammendements. In the past it has been 1 NL rider in for each team but on occasions it has been difficult to get Youngsters with school commitments etc.... So another NL rider has filled the gap but I believe this has been tightened this season. The BSPA website has given this league it's on section on the BSPA site which is excellent news. Edited February 5, 2012 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve povey Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 what about riders like Robert Lambert And Nathan Greaves who are both 14 will they be able to race in these leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Probably not the answer you want to hear, but no. Riders must be 15 years old and it is actually called Anglian Junior League, never has Youth been mentioned. It has been mis posted in this section and everyone should look at the BSPA website for conformation. Great work by all concerned to get official recognition for their efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
under16watcher Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 is there any rules put out for this league racing as of yet and how do you go about getting a team spot? for example age limits, and standard of rider, bike spec etc thank you in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Congratulations too King's Lynn, Peterborough, Rye House, Mildenhall, Ipswich & Lakeside in introducing this league. All matches will take part after the main teams apart from Lakeside which will be before all Lakeside meetings. They will consist of 6 heat 4 rider teams. Fantastic, bring on the future Thats a really good idea , why has'nt someone thought of it before ? will the riders be just below National league level with maybe I current NL rider as a sort of mentor . the whole league a sort of stepping stone to natiional league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 ['Nikko'] I would say up to a 6 point NL average is way to high and also 2 NL riders out of 4 is too many. For me this league is for young riders to gain experience in team racing and to to get ready for NL teams. Personally I have no problem with 1 NL reserve per team but no more and no riders who have ridden at NL heat leader or above. If you look at some of the reserves this season they are still very inexperienced and this league would help them. It will also give some riders without a team spot the chance to show what they can do. Rules are going to have to agreed and stuck to. If they are then this can only be a good thing. Maybe 2 NL riders in a team max maybe too much but then again I think that all riders under 18 at March 15th of a particular season should be exempt from resticrtions unless they have gained at least a NL average of 8 or over. It would be wrong for all NL riders to be excluded from the junior League because riders get better by riding against better riders and this League has to show a definate stepping stone between junior League and NL! I agree that rules have to be stuck to which I hinted on in my long post on this thread. Since the old official Leagues were finished after the 1992 season there has been a few unofficial attempts to run Leagues at this level and they have normally failed because few people knew much about them with results not being published in the speedway star, riders riding for more than one team at the same time and generally rules not being kept to. The 1999 Development League which I believe was officially sanctioned was the nearest we got to a decent organised League but the organisers lost interest and it withered away. The BSPA have to ensure the 3 Junior League sare run properly and that results are included in the speedway star under the main meeting like they used to be in the 80's and early 90's. Basically they have to promoted like they are the 4th Division of British speedway which is exactly what they are! The old Junior Leagues of the 80's and early 90's for me as a fan used to add extra value to a meeting, sometimes these matches would provide more incident and excitment than the main meeting. Before these Leagues and the old style 2nd halfs died, that was part of the thrill of going ot a meeting, seeing young and or local rookies have a go at making the grade. In this day and age of financial struggle for most people and promotors looking to make meetings better value for money, a properly run and structured Junior League would help no end and if these Junior Leagues increased in popularity then on meetings where they wern't a Junior match, they'd be more scope for 2nd half scratch races. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Great to see so many clubs in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerowl Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 It is obviously a good thing to have a junior league but is there much point for the lads while those champions of British speedway, Louis and Morton, fill their teams with Australians and continentals, ignoring all the British talent in the process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Probably not the answer you want to hear, but no. Riders must be 15 years old and it is actually called Anglian Junior League, never has Youth been mentioned. It has been mis posted in this section and everyone should look at the BSPA website for conformation. Great work by all concerned to get official recognition for their efforts. Shame if 15 is the entry level. Robert Lambert is 14. When he celebrates his 15th birthday I don't know, but what I do know is he is sensational from what I have witnessed during his second half outings at Rye House last year with 4 laps timed sometimes faster then in the main PL match. The BSPA or, whoever, cannot be allowed to sit on their hands at the risk of he and other talented prospects plying their trade elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Shame if 15 is the entry level. Robert Lambert is 14. When he celebrates his 15th birthday I don't know, but what I do know is he is sensational from what I have witnessed during his second half outings at Rye House last year with 4 laps timed sometimes faster then in the main PL match. The BSPA or, whoever, cannot be allowed to sit on their hands at the risk of he and other talented prospects plying their trade elsewhere. I don't think Robert will be 14 until the 5th April this year, but I'll stand to be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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