Ben91 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 All GP riders not contracted to race here for the season should be barred from all of these meetings and places given to the riders who give their services to British clubs. Is this a joke? What you are saying is they will want to ride a full season in the UK so they get to ride in the Brandonapolis. Doubt it very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Un Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is this a joke? What you are saying is they will want to ride a full season in the UK so they get to ride in the Brandonapolis. Doubt it very much! No joke at all. All riders in meetings other than FIM meetings in this country should be riders contracted to race in this country: I know that many people feel the same way as I do and there have been masses of complaints when teams sign riders who commit only to ride until the GP Series starts for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 No joke at all. All riders in meetings other than FIM meetings in this country should be riders contracted to race in this country: I know that many people feel the same way as I do and there have been masses of complaints when teams sign riders who commit only to ride until the GP Series starts for them. I'd rather bring fans through the turnstiles tbh. It's wrong to blame these riders, if our Elite League wasn't so watered down or we had a squad system in place then they'd more than happily ride here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 What about me... I'm the other side of the world!!! Sorry ....forgot about you. So that's another one lost to Brandon. Not forgetting my other half who defected to Leicester when they opened again. Traitor! Also another Leicester friend who had to take early retirement so can't afford to go to both tracks now. ......RocketBen1.............. if our Elite League wasn't so watered down or we had a squad system in place then they'd more than happily ride here. I'm not so sure about that because I doubt if the promoters could afford to have all the 'top stars' riding over here again. And don't forget even in the days when they were all over here the attendances weren't that much higher than they are now at a lot of tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Un Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I'd rather bring fans through the turnstiles tbh. It's wrong to blame these riders, if our Elite League wasn't so watered down or we had a squad system in place then they'd more than happily ride here. Personally I would prefer the squad system and it is workable if the promoters wanted to use it. The clubs might have to provide bikes and mechanics for some riders but they could use the same bikes and mechanics for each pair of squad members who are not racing the full season over here. I am sure a half competant mechanic can record the prefered settings for either rider. I think with two top riders in each team and doubling-up for British riders only, you would have a squad system that could work. I would suggest that if a GP rider was involved that they do not have to ride three days before or after a GP and a non-GP rider would be signed as their cover. You could even work the fixture list so that the away club sees both riders once in the season. If you then have an eighteen home and eighteen away fixture list you can fill the season better and have racing on every week other than the SWC event and the British GP weekend. One thing I would say and that is that the SWC events should be raced over no more than six days, seven if the first event is in Poland. There is no reason for it to be any longer as the first two events have no relation to each other. You could have the first two events on the Monday and Tuesday (UK/Denmak/Sweden), Sunday and Tuesday (Poland/Sweden) or Sunday and Monday (Poland/UK/Denmark). Edited January 20, 2012 by The Little Un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cee the bee Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I must admit the squad system is an idea i like, but it has to be the right formula & for the right reasons. Just imagine as an ie Jonsson sharing No1 with Freddie Lindgren or Fisher sharing a second string with Pawlicki, it could work. When riders are known not to be available due to other commitments there will always be a back up in place. Edited January 20, 2012 by cee the bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 No joke at all. All riders in meetings other than FIM meetings in this country should be riders contracted to race in this country: I know that many people feel the same way as I do and there have been masses of complaints when teams sign riders who commit only to ride until the GP Series starts for them. This isn't the same thing as signing for a team a few weeks whatsoever. Saying that people don't like that (which I don't, either) does not back up any sort of argument that they shouldn't be involved in individual meetings which help speedway clubs make money because people want to see them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I must admit the squad system is an idea i like, but it has to be the right formula & for the right reasons. Just imagine as an ie Jonsson sharing No1 with Freddie Lindgren or Fisher sharing a second string with Pawlicki, it could work. When riders are known not to be available due to other commitments there will always be a back up in place. Brandonapolis Friday March 16th is the name of this topic ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cee the bee Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brandonapolis Friday March 16th is the name of this topic ! Tell those that began discussing squads then. The line up here is brilliant. Sod the naysayers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Magic added to line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Looks a good line up. theres no way I could agree with the suggestion that riders not riding in the UK should be banned. Look at the bigger picture. These meetings probably have quite a few different objectives. You want to entice people in to watch, get the locals excited about seeing riders that they might not get the chance to see otherwise (therefore fans make an effort to come along and see for example a favourite who might not be UK based). That brings money in for the club. Theres also the chance not only for the club to look at riders they might be in a position to entice later in the season but for riders to get a feel of the track and perhaps think more favourably to UK riding or see if a track they have previously felt ok on has now changed on prep and is suddenly a track they despereately want to ride. Ok maybe unlikely but if a top class rider has ridden on a track and enjoyed it there is more chance of him coming over in the future. As things stand, the meeting line up announced so far looks really competitive and should make good viewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Un Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have no problem with people who look at this differently to me, at the end of the day it is just an opinion and everybody is entitled to their own opinion whether we agree with it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I never understand what all the fuss is about. If you like the riders lined up go, if not then dont As a season ticket holder I can't wait to go, exellent that it is included in the price and also in my opinion its a great line up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerman Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Don't say you are moving as well? Jacques/Tim are relocating to the Somerset area and because they aren't too keen on P.L. racing will be supporting Poole. Now that will take some doing. SCB has gone back to Wales, I think 21st mostly goes to Birmingham and Wolves these days. All these fans lost to Coventry. Where are you Jacques - it's been 2 minutes already. I would strongly recomend the racing at The Oak Tree Arena. I have seen some really good racing there on the few occasions I have visited. The big advantage of the PL is you only get to see the visiting teams once unlike the EL where there is a god chance you'll se them 4 times at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Jacques/Tim you will also see Swindon at OTA on March 23rd :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) I would strongly recomend the racing at The Oak Tree Arena. I have seen some really good racing there on the few occasions I have visited. The big advantage of the PL is you only get to see the visiting teams once unlike the EL where there is a good chance you'll se them 4 times at home. Sorry for the misunderstanding packerman - it was just a joke. Jacques would no doubt rather stick pins in her eyes than support Poole. I've been to Somerset twice and love it there. I've got nothing at all against Premier League racing as long as it is racing and not just follow-the-leader stuff like at Leicester my local track. Hopefully the racing will be better this season with the changes made to the track and a different person preparing it. We'll see. Regarding perhaps seeing visiting teams 4 times in the E.L. We only got to see Poole and some others once at Coventry last season - the downside of the new system. Edited January 30, 2012 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I would strongly recomend the racing at The Oak Tree Arena. I have seen some really good racing there on the few occasions I have visited. The big advantage of the PL is you only get to see the visiting teams once unlike the EL where there is a god chance you'll se them 4 times at home. Erm, you see half the league twice in both leagues. Koc and play off aside but you get them in both leagues. Plus I can't get my head around this seeing more teams thing, you see the same 7 home riders all year, don't you get bored of that? What about the GPs with 15 riders the same? If its he best arguement for PL vs EL then it's a bit rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Anyone know the cost to get in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Jacques/Tim you will also see Swindon at OTA on March 23rd :D Ha ha, sadly we won't have moved then .......... Sorry for the misunderstanding packerman - it was just a joke. Jacques would no doubt rather stick pins in her eyes than support Poole. I've been to Somerset twice and love it there. I've got nothing at all against Premier League racing as long as it is racing and not just follow-the-leader stuff like at Leicester my local track. Hopefully the racing will be better this season with the changes made to the track and a different person preparing it. We'll see. Regarding perhaps seeing visiting teams 4 times in the E.L. We only got to see Poole and some others once at Coventry last season - the downside of the new system. See what trouble you cause.. Packerman, it was a joke, ( not a very good one I agree) We will definitely be visiting the OTA when we move ..and Poole only when the Bees are there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 See what trouble you cause.. Packerman, it was a joke, ( not a very good one I agree) We will definitely be visiting the OTA when we move ..and Poole only when the Bees are there! I know. Sometimes I think I should just stick to farming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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