HenryW Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 The British, Swedish and Polish leagues all currently use averages to determine the make-up of teams in their leagues. The Danes use a grading system to determine their team strengths. However, I am not sure how other leagues do things. Can anybody help by clarifying what rules are in place for determining team strengths in the other leagues, and whether there are any restrictions on Nationalities, ages (eg including under 21 riders), etc. The leagues that I am interested in are the German Bundesliga, the Czech Extraliga and the Russian League. Any information would be appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 The British, Swedish and Polish leagues all currently use averages to determine the make-up of teams in their leagues. The Danes use a grading system to determine their team strengths. However, I am not sure how other leagues do things. Can anybody help by clarifying what rules are in place for determining team strengths in the other leagues, and whether there are any restrictions on Nationalities, ages (eg including under 21 riders), etc. The leagues that I am interested in are the German Bundesliga, the Czech Extraliga and the Russian League. Any information would be appreciated... In the Finnish league we have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Not 100% sure on all of this.Had a look in the Bundesliga proggies i went to this year and no explanation given......But i think it is similar to the Danish Superliga.Gradings A,B and C.Not allowed to use more than two from any grade.Only two foreigners max in any team and at least one German U21.No GP riders.Foreigners i think will always be graded A,as are the best Germans like Kevin W and Smoli.Landshut had it good with Smoli and one foreigner at A,then Facher & Dilger B with Marcel Helfer as the U21.Wolfslake for instance had problems with the German B grade riders,but had a great U21 rider in Huckenbeck....Brokstedt had an ok team with Kevin + Tobi at A grade(but had to use a foreign A grade some meetings...)then the old duo of Matten Kröger and Stephan Katt who are steady without being super,but had trouble with the U21.Rather an unflexible system if one of the key riders is injured you have no chance of a good replacement and the good German U21 riders are few and far between.Wolfslake have got round some of the problems by using polish riders on German passes.Sekula at the moment(although he hardly seems worth the trouble) and i think Hlib in the past is another example,plus i had the feeling Szombierski was being lined up as well as he was on occasion listed for Mecklenberg-Vorpommern Championship and maybe even in the Wolfslake line-up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 In the Finnish league we have... Haha, F-S-P, I didn't got as far as considering the Finnish League yet Feel free to provide details about any rules that are in place for putting the Finnish teams together if you know them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Feel free to provide details about any rules that are in place for putting the Finnish teams together if you know them Four riders per team must fit under 30 points. They take their places in the team according to their averages #1 being the highest and so on... Sand Blowers actually won the league last season in a thrilling last heat decider. Their combined average was around 29,60. Foreigners (and Joonas Kylmäkorpi) will come on an assessed 10, alltough foreign U17 riders are 7,00. U17 riders are given their own figure, since there's again around 20 Swedish youngsters stepping up from 80cc. 10,00 would not give them even a chance to ride here. Averages are re calculated midway through for team building purposes. If your teams listed 1-4 when entered the season is over the limit, good on you and you are free to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Haha, F-S-P, I didn't got as far as considering the Finnish League yet Feel free to provide details about any rules that are in place for putting the Finnish teams together if you know them Know them?He probably wrote them up.I imagine it being a bit like Only Fools and Horses,when Rodney was unwillingly voted on the Housing commitee as Chairman while the old Chairman was only pleased to get out of the job and down the pub...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Know them?He probably wrote them up.I imagine it being a bit like Only Fools and Horses,when Rodney was unwillingly voted on the Housing commitee as Chairman while the old Chairman was only pleased to get out of the job and down the pub...... It took a couple of reads, but I guess you're spot on. After having whined about them (and how they were followed) for a few years I thought why not do them myself. 3rd times the charm, or however it goes... Next year should go without any major hassle. Edited November 21, 2011 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I was imagining it a bit like this...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) I was imagining it a bit like this...... Well it didn't go quite like that. That Rodney fellow is a bit lost though, I could have sworn he is Chris Harris! Edited November 21, 2011 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 As luck would have it,searching for the results of the Speedway on Ice meeting in Freital yesterday i came across the regs for next seasons Bundesliga.Simplified it a bit and dropped the mandatory German U21 rider,because of the reasons i stated in my previous post.Too few good riders or to put it another way too much difference between the riders that can be used.So... Just two categories A grade Kevin,Smoli and Hefe plus all foreign over 21 riders.GP riders not allowed B grade All other German riders and riders on German licence plus foreign U21 riders.Two foreign U21 riders can be used Team to be made up of 1 A + 4 B grade riders.So now 3 foreign riders per meeting can be used if the A grade is a foreigner and two U21 foreigners are used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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