Neil Grantham Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I've noticed that day 2 of the 1987 World Final took the usual format for the first 16 heats (21-36) but the last 4 seem different Can anyone tell me who was in which helmet colour please, in heats 37 to 40 Cheers Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) From the meeting programme Heat 37 Jimmy Nilsen (Red), Heny Kroeze (Blue), Simon Cross (White), Jan O Pedersen (Yellow) Heat 38 Per Jonsson (Red), Antonin Kasper (Blue), Sam Ermolenko (White), John Cook (Yellow) Heat 39 Roman Matousek (Red), Erik Gundersen (Blue), Chris Morton (White), Roman Jankowsli (Yellow) Heat 40 Jeremy Doncaster (Red), Mitch Shirra (Blue), Hans Nielsen (White), Gerd Riss (Yellow) Hope that this helps. Edited October 16, 2011 by Robbie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Grantham Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 From the meeting programme Heat 37 Jimmy Nilsen (Red), Heny Kroeze (Blue), Simon Cross (White), Jan O Pedersen (Yellow) Heat 38 Per Jonsson (Red), Antonin Kasper (Blue), Sam Ermolenko (White), John Cook (Yellow) Heat 39 Roman Matousek (Red), Erik Gundersen (Blue), Chris Morton (White), Roman Jankowsli (Yellow) Heat 40 Jeremy Doncaster (Red), Mitch Shirra (Blue), Hans Nielsen (White), Gerd Riss (Yellow) Hope that this helps. Thanks for that All sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 What was different about the last four heats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Grantham Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 What was different about the last four heats? The normal 20 heat format would have had it: 37 (17) 1-8-15-10 or Riss-Doncaster-Shirra-Nielsen 38 (18) 9-2-7-16 or Kasper-Ermolenko-Jonsson-Cook 39 (19) 3-12-13-6 or Matousek-Gundersen-Morton-Jankowski 40 (20) 5-14-11-4 or Nilsen-Kroeze-Cross-Pedersen So, although the same riders compete against each other for their 5th rides, they aer jumbled. 38/39 in same order but different helmet order (apart from 39!), and 37/40 transposed and again different helmet order (apart from 40!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 The normal 20 heat format would have had it: 37 (17) 1-8-15-10 or Riss-Doncaster-Shirra-Nielsen 38 (18) 9-2-7-16 or Kasper-Ermolenko-Jonsson-Cook 39 (19) 3-12-13-6 or Matousek-Gundersen-Morton-Jankowski 40 (20) 5-14-11-4 or Nilsen-Kroeze-Cross-Pedersen So, although the same riders compete against each other for their 5th rides, they aer jumbled. 38/39 in same order but different helmet order (apart from 39!), and 37/40 transposed and again different helmet order (apart from 40!). Neil, just checked my programme and the heat format for the second day is completely different for all the heats (21-40). Riders kept the same numbers for both days - for instance, Hans Nielsen was No. 2 and Erik Gundersen was No. 13. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Grantham Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Neil, just checked my programme and the heat format for the second day is completely different for all the heats (21-40). Riders kept the same numbers for both days - for instance, Hans Nielsen was No. 2 and Erik Gundersen was No. 13. All the best Rob Rob I had a vague recollectoin that they kept the same numbers. I found a 40 heat format of which the second 20 go like this: 21 3-6-8-10 22 4-12-16-15 23 2-1-14-13 24 5-7-11-9 25 9-3-4-14 26 7-2-6-16 27 1-5-12-8 28 10-15-13-11 29 16-11-3-1 30 13-4-5-6 31 8-14-15-7 32 12-10-9-2 33 3-13-7-12 34 6-9-1-15 35 11-8-2-4 36 14-16-10-5 37 4-7-1-10 38 12-14-6-11 39 8-13-9-16 40 15-5-2-3 Is this what was used? Cheers Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Rob I had a vague recollectoin that they kept the same numbers. I found a 40 heat format of which the second 20 go like this: 21 3-6-8-10 22 4-12-16-15 23 2-1-14-13 24 5-7-11-9 25 9-3-4-14 26 7-2-6-16 27 1-5-12-8 28 10-15-13-11 29 16-11-3-1 30 13-4-5-6 31 8-14-15-7 32 12-10-9-2 33 3-13-7-12 34 6-9-1-15 35 11-8-2-4 36 14-16-10-5 37 4-7-1-10 38 12-14-6-11 39 8-13-9-16 40 15-5-2-3 Is this what was used? Cheers Neil Neil, that's the one. It's also the format that has been used in Ice Racing for many years. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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