sandman Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 aww, he was quite the jokester..at least you didnt get the itching powder poured down the trousers... gotta let bye gones be bye gones.. i am sure there is a good explanation for the gum..He probably thought you could use a good old fashioned clean out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy moore Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 If i remember rightly boley proch was one of peter collins most feared opponents,boley is one of my favourite racers of all time.Anyone know of any photos on the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 (edited) must say i thought even though he was past his best most probably, Jancarz was a great rider when he came over and may have been a World Champ if he had riden in England earlier.but my main memory of the Poles is a test match at Hackney in`74 when England scored 17 5-1`s from 18 races.Ray Wilson`s exclusion stopping them from a clean sweep.That was a polish side that included Jancarz,Plech,Glucklich and Waloszek though Szczakiel was missing though i doubt even the great man would have made much of a difference Edited January 24, 2004 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMac Posted January 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Sandman, you've drifted off the subject a bit there...but I can confirm that JD didn't succeed with any jokes at my expense, thankyou! Never chew gum anyway -horrible habit! Â Now what about those Poles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 sorry TMC, tis my nature to drift.. seriously, there are very few countries that have produced more determined riders than Poland. now that they have good equiptment, bit of a different story than back then.. damn, its raining again outside, well not like it could rain inside.. unless i had a pipe break,.. is it raining there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crybaby Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 hello, Â here's the list of all Polish riders in Britain (thanks for Roman Chyla, the author): (Position, Surname, Name, Club, Year, Matches, CMA) 01 JANCARZ Edward Wimbledon 1977 28 9.61 02 JANCARZ Edward Wimbledon 1979 18 9.26 03 JANCARZ Edward Wimbledon 1978 25 8.60 04 PLECH Zenon Hackney 1980 23 8.34 05 JANCARZ Edward Wimbledon 1980 20 8.10 06 JANCARZ Edward Wimbledon 1981 17 8.00 07 PLECH Zenon Hackney 1976 36 7.92 08 PLECH Zenon Hackney 1979 20 7.70 09 CIESLAK Marek White City 1977 34 7.15 10 PLECH Zenon Hackney 1975 4 7.11 11 PLECH Zenon Hackney 1981 27 6.82 12 HUSZCZA Andrzej Leicester 1980 19 6.68 13 WORYNA Antoni Poole 1973 29 6.49 14 PYSZNY Piotr Halifax 1980 26 5.90 15 JANCARZ Edward Wimbledon 1982 14 5.83 16 TKOCZ Andrzej Poole 1979 21 5.82 17 PROCH Boleslaw Reading 1976 29 5.37 18 JANKOWSKI Roman Hackney 1980 30 5.32 19 WORYNA Antoni Poole 1974 36 5.27 20 SLABON Robert Eastbourne 1981 10 5.23 21 JANKOWSKI Roman Hackney 1981 19 5.19 22 PROCH Boleslaw Leicester 1977 10 5.17 23 CIESLAK Marek White City 1978 25 5.16 24 PYSZNY Piotr Halifax 1981 22 5.14 25 JURCZYNSKI Andrzej White City 1978 20 5.05 26 PLECH Zenon Sheffield 1982 11 4.95 27 PROCH Boleslaw Reading 1977 13 4.85 28 REMBAS Jerzy Leicester 1978 30 4.84 29 HUSZCZA Andrzej Leicester/R/H 1981 21 4.72 30 FLIEGERT Dariusz Edinburgh 1992 42 4.62 31 TKOCZ Andrzej Poole 1978 22 4.51 32 REMBAS Jerzy Wimbledon 1981 3 4.40 33 ADAMCZAK Kazimierz Newport 1976 9 4.10 34 ZABIK Jan Sheffield 1980 22 4.16 35 PYSZNY Piotr Poole 1979 1 4.00 36 BLASZAK Eugeniusz Reading 1976 8 3.67 37 REMPALA Jacek Ipswich 1991 17 3.66 38 DRABIK Slawomir Poole 1992 15 3.45 39 GLUCKLICH Henryk Reading 1978 20 2.94 40 TRZESZKOWSKI Jerzy Swindon 1978 11 2.42 41 SZCZEPANIK Grzegorz Leicester 1976 28 2.37 42 OLKIEWICZ Adam Halifax 1976 4 2.33 43 ADAMCZAK Kazimierz Exeter 1976 13 2.23 44 KEPA Marek Eastbourne 1981 3 1.14 45 KAFEL Jozef Eastbourne 1980 5 0.92 46 ADAMCZAK Kazimierz Hull 1976 1 0.00 - RABA Leonard Swindon 1978 5 0.00 - PUK Jan Eastbourne 1980 2 0.00 Â and the list of Polish riders in Britain from 1998 to 2003: (Surname, Name, Club, Heats, Point, Bonuses, P+B, CMA) 1998 GOLLOB Tomasz Ipswich 151 331 17 348 9.22 PROTASIEWICZ Piotr King's Lynn 116 187 17 204 7.03 1999 GOLLOB Tomasz Ipswich 77 167 5 172 8.94 2000 GOLLOB Tomasz Ipswich 108 248 9 257 9.52 SKORNICKI Adam Wolverhampton 131 162 32 258 5.92 2001 CEGIELSKI Krzysztof Poole 145 283 23 306 8.44 HAMPEL Jaroslaw Ipswich 141 221 32 253 7.18 WALASEK Grzegorz Poole 119 165 27 192 6.45 SKORNICKI Adam W'hampton 77 83 24 107 5.56 JABLONSKI Krzysztof W'hampton 55 57 9 66 4.80 BAJERSKI Tomasz King's Lynn 24 20 4 24 4.00 JEDRZEJAK TomaszBelle Vue 64 52 7 59 3.69 LABEDZKI Adam Belle Vue 23 18 3 21 3.65 2002 HAMPEL Jaroslaw Ipswich 61 104 7.74 SKORNICKI Adam Wolverhampton 71 117 17 134 7.55 ULAMEK Sebastian King's Lynn 125 217 13 230 7.36 PROTASIEWICZ Piotr Peterborough 108 172 17 189 7.00 WALASEK Grzegorz Poole 70 104 9 113 6.46 SLABON Krzysztof Ipswich 107 134 25 19 5.94 STASZEWSKI Mariusz Poole 103 103 16 119 4.62 CHRZANOWSKI Tomasz Poole62 54 13 67 4.32 PIETRZYK AdamKing's Lynn 54 52 5 57 4.22 JEDRZEJAK Tomasz Belle Vue 61 53 5 58 3.80 2003 PROTASIEWICZ Piotr Peterborough 110 222 15 237 8.62 ULAMEK Sebastian Oxford 87 142 10 152 6.99 HAMPEL Jaroslaw Ipswich 81 115 11 126 6.22 SKORNICKI Adam Wolverhampton 115 146 17 163 5.67 SLABON Krzysztof Ipswich 75 93 13 106 5.65 KASPRZAK Krzysztof Poole 90 96 12 108 4.80 Â best regards, marcin crybaby wolanski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 I'm being very picky here, but haven't you missed Sebastian Ulamek @ Wolverhampton in 2000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Richard Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 (edited) And what about Henryk Zyto .... I think thats how it is spelt. He was real crowd pleaser when he came over. Â oops just realised thats before the `70's .... I had better ring "Help the Aged" for advice on how to concentrate. Edited January 25, 2004 by Lee Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Thanks for the stats,Crybaby.Statistics arent everything but they underline my opinion that Jancarz(considering he was 30something when he came over was better than Plech,who was much younger.Must also point out that my opinion might be tainted by the fact that Zenon rode for Hackney.Both great riders though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Sorry disagree with this Steady Eddie was good, but In my opinion Zenon in his prime was brill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 The late great ANTONI WORYNA. must say that i thought the Poole management of the time were trying to put together a team consisting of the strangest names available.Lofqvist,Wirebrand,Odd Fossengen and Pete Smith! Woryna was one of the easier ones for the announcer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMac Posted January 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Top man, Roman Chyla! How are you keeping? It's good to see you are still keeping the Polish flag flying, my old friend! Â Zyto never rode for a BL club, though, did he? Â When the Poles were crushed in the 1973 World Series match by England at Hackney, for once the track didn't procide any good racing because it was very wet. A regular league meeting would have been rained off. Â Tony Mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peatbog Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 What about Tadeusz (Teo) Teodorowicz who rode for Swindon in the 60's, he decided to stay here in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy the shifta Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Please dont get me started about Polish riders, just ask any long standing 'Blunsdonite' about the 2 poles who came along and sadly failed to live up to expectations. Namely mr Raba and trezkowski (dodgy spelling i know) Â however Ed jancarz was a class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Top man, Roman Chyla! How are you keeping? It's good to see you are still keeping the Polish flag flying, my old friend! Zyto never rode for a BL club, though, did he?  When the Poles were crushed in the 1973 World Series match by England at Hackney, for once the track didn't procide any good racing because it was very wet. A regular league meeting would have been rained off.  Tony Mc Henryk Zyto rode for Cov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 What about Tadeusz (Teo) Teodorowicz who rode for Swindon in the 60's, he decided to stay here in England. sadly he died after a crash at West Ham.There was also Stefan Kwoczala and Marian Kaiser who rode for Leicester,but these riders are earlier than the date the question set out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantodan Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 In the 1960's a Polish club side toured. They were Rybnik. Â I remember a team with lots of strange names. Andreije Wyglenda was the pick of their riders. But Konstantyn Pociejowkawicz had the best name, fancy your teacher reading that off the register every morning! Present sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 In the 1960's a Polish club side toured. They were Rybnik. I remember a team with lots of strange names. Andreije Wyglenda was the pick of their riders. But Konstantyn Pociejowkawicz had the best name, fancy your teacher reading that off the register every morning! Present sir! used to dread a tactical substitution!needed to buy a second programme to fill in later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bd.erf. Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 There was a polish rider called Piotr Pyszny who rode for Halifax in the early 80s. I remember him taking ages to get used to the banked track but when he did he was quite good,no good away from home if i recall though. doe,s any one remember him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 My favourite memory of Polish riders in the UK was Dawid Kujawa walking out of Newport  I was never a Gollob fan when he was in his prime, he was too wild and dirty but now when the GP's go to real tracks and you see him ride, you realise just how great he is/was, I was watching a video of a GP from a few years back a few weks ago and he was great. You can see why the Poles idolise him, I'd love to see him back up there in the GP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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