Marmite Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 When will the wildcards be offered to riders, and announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) When will the wildcards be offered to riders, and announced? Last year it was announced on 19th October so judging by that we should know within the next two weeks. Edited October 9, 2011 by ImpartialOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 On topic (as I am not impressed at arguments about spelling and the like)..........Ward, Pedersen, THJ and Harris...........the reason for including Harris is purely because there are no other British riders that could compete at this level currently............ RP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 When will the wildcards be offered to riders, and announced? THERE was a meeting between BSI/IMG ad the FIM this morning. Calendar should be out later this week, wild cards probably next. Picks have to be officially ratified and riders consulted. Situation in Poland with (at present) the one GP rider per club rule could still muddy the waters, especially at champions Zielona Gora who are not happy with the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I Think Pedersen, Harris & Lindgren will be automatic picks. Ward should also get a pick, but may decline because of the new gp rule in Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 On topic (as I am not impressed at arguments about spelling and the like) Thanks for that, i do wish posters would switch to the PM for arguments/discussions over grammar or spelling. Harking back to my initial post at the start of the thread i think the 'four already decided' that i suggested still hold pretty firm. Unfortunately, it will be a crying shame if Darcy Ward turns down an invitation. That gets me to wondering have the SGP selectors ever included a surprise nomination? One that fans didn't see coming or vehemently criticized? Also how has Thomas H. Jonasson performed in international standard meetings this season? Did he do well in the World Cup or was he not selected for that being relatively early in the season?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 That gets me to wondering have the SGP selectors ever included a surprise nomination? One that fans didn't see coming or vehemently criticized? Chris Harris 2007, 2009, 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Thanks for that, i do wish posters would switch to the PM for arguments/discussions over grammar or spelling. Harking back to my initial post at the start of the thread i think the 'four already decided' that i suggested still hold pretty firm. Unfortunately, it will be a crying shame if Darcy Ward turns down an invitation. That gets me to wondering have the SGP selectors ever included a surprise nomination? One that fans didn't see coming or vehemently criticized? Also how has Thomas H. Jonasson performed in international standard meetings this season? Did he do well in the World Cup or was he not selected for that being relatively early in the season?. two semifinals from two wild card apperarances. Rode very well in Målilla GP. Averaged on 7 points in the World Cup; Ev1: Thomas H. Jonasson (1,2,2,2,0,0) 7 RO: Thomas H. Jonasson (3,0,2,0,2,0) 7 Fin: Thomas H. Jonasson (0,2,2,1,2,0) 7 Edited October 9, 2011 by Ghostwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineman Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 It just shows you, doesn't it? Surprise nomination 2010 and finished equal 5th in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Chris Harris 2007, 2009, 2010. Very good hee hee. two semifinals from two wild card apperarances. Rode very well in Målilla GP. Averaged on 7 points in the World Cup; Ev1: Thomas H. Jonasson (1,2,2,2,0,0) 7 RO: Thomas H. Jonasson (3,0,2,0,2,0) 7 Fin: Thomas H. Jonasson (0,2,2,1,2,0) 7 Thanks for that info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Chris Harris 2007, 2009, 2010. Thing is, at the end of 2010 and 2011 Harris as shown he is just as good as the opposition, the only rider to beat the World Champion last night. It would be hard to keep giving him a wild card, but based off the lack of other real British contenders and based off his superb form in the last two GPs I would offer him one final wildcard for 2012. When he is competitive, Chris Harris is as spectacular as Gollob used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Averaged on 7 points in the World Cup; Ev1: Thomas H. Jonasson (1,2,2,2,0,0) 7 RO: Thomas H. Jonasson (3,0,2,0,2,0) 7 Fin: Thomas H. Jonasson (0,2,2,1,2,0) 7 Not so impressive when you calculate a true average of 4.67 from those meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Not so impressive when you calculate a true average of 4.67 from those meetings. true average? I think an average like that can't be more true (points/meeting) or do you some secret type of weird maths in Britain? coz' in my world (7+7+7)/3=7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) true average? I think an average like that can't be more true (points/meeting) or do you some secret type of weird maths in Britain? coz' in my world (7+7+7)/3=7. A true average is from 12 points. To say he averaged 7.00 is flattering his performance. Try points per ride rather than points per meeting. 7 from 6 is not an impressive score. Edited October 9, 2011 by ImpartialOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Not so impressive when you calculate a true average of 4.67 from those meetings. true average? I think an average like that can't be more true (points/meeting) or do you some secret type of weird maths in Britain? coz' in my world (7+7+7)/3=7. Ghostwalker i so hate to have to correct or disagree with you as you have so much valuable input to the forums but....???? i'm very puzzled by this. Surely there is not a speedway fan in the world (or a mathematician) that would dispute the TRUE average from the stats provided is indeed 4.67. By your argument an unbeaten rider scoring 3 3 from 2 rides would average 6.00 and a reserve scoring 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 from seven rides would have an average of 7.00 Edited October 10, 2011 by manchesterpaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ghostwalker i so hate to have to correct or disagree with you as you have so much valuable input to the forums but....???? i'm very puzzled by this. Surely there is not a speedway fan in the world (or a mathematician) that would dispute the TRUE average from the stats provided is indeed 4.67. By your argument an unbeaten rider scoring 3 3 from 2 rides would average 6.00 and a reserve scoring 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 from seven rides would have an average of 7.00 British speedway averages are always calculated from 4 rides. So he is simply apportioning down the points scored into a format comparable to club speedway. Therefore 4.67, which is second string level, and not really impressive enough to justify a SGP place. And by the Chris Harris, who lots of people are complaing is not good enough scored 16 plus 14 from the two world cup events he rode in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 British speedway averages are always calculated from 4 rides. So he is simply apportioning down the points scored into a format comparable to club speedway. Therefore 4.67, which is second string level, and not really impressive enough to justify a SGP place. And by the Chris Harris, who lots of people are complaing is not good enough scored 16 plus 14 from the two world cup events he rode in. Statistics can be used to show either side of an argument. Harris's figures from the GP series, 74 points from 57 rides is only a 5.19 average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Very interesting article posted by Steve Magro on the yahoo speedway group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ghostwalker i so hate to have to correct or disagree with you as you have so much valuable input to the forums but....???? i'm very puzzled by this. Surely there is not a speedway fan in the world (or a mathematician) that would dispute the TRUE average from the stats provided is indeed 4.67. By your argument an unbeaten rider scoring 3 3 from 2 rides would average 6.00 and a reserve scoring 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 from seven rides would have an average of 7.00 I'm amazed myself that anyone could think 7 from 6 is an average of 7.00 Even more odd was his claim that I had some kind of strange calculating method! For Ghostwalker: Points divided by rides multiplied by 4 gives you a true average that can be comparable to any other average. Eg: When a rider scores 17 from six rides that is not a 17.00 average, but 11.33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I'm amazed myself that anyone could think 7 from 6 is an average of 7.00 Even more odd was his claim that I had some kind of strange calculating method! For Ghostwalker: Points divided by rides multiplied by 4 gives you a true average that can be comparable to any other average. Eg: When a rider scores 17 from six rides that is not a 17.00 average, but 11.33. your methods ARE strange. There is no way 7+7+7 which equals 21 can be anything else then 7 when divided by three, Which is an average score of 7 per meeting, or 1,4 points per heat. I also think there is something wrong with SGP's score. Take a look at this link: http://speedwaygp.com/swcresults/32 and heat 22. THJ is positioned furthest to the left like he had won that heat but he has no point listed in that heat and the table below says 0. Troy Batchelor is listed as 3rd in the heat but in the table its says 0 for his 5th ride. It doesn't matter really as i still think the the charity cases Lindgren and Harris should be given a leave from the GP series until they can get themselves in. Its time to let other riders have a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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