ImpartialOne Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 It bugs me that riders who do not attempt to qualify through the qualifying system get wildcards. Fair play to Darcy Ward, yes he failed to qualify but he tried, Pedersen and Lindgren didn't although I think Lindgren did the year before Chris Harris annoys me by not doing the qualifiers, he got in the series in the first place through a wildcard and only once in all the years he has been in the series has he qualified for the next year. That is a rider who SHOULD be doing the qualifiers rather than sitting back and expecting yet another reprieve. 8 crap GP's and one good one doesn't mean you deserve another chance IMO 5 Brits done the qualifers, Kennett, Stead, Barker King and Wright. At least they tried to qualify under their own steam Not sure what the answer is other than no Brits in the series, we don't have any who deserve it which probably is what we need to finally wake up and realise just what is happening to British Speedway I absolutely agree. Harris even had the audacity in his podium interview to say that he's proved he deserves a wild card for next year. No you haven't Chris. You've proved, as you said, you are the best Britain's got at the moment, which isn't much but if it was down to me I'd give you a wild card for Cardiff and probably Gorican if Pavlic Snr allowed it. A podium place in Gorzow might swing it but I can't see that happening with Darky taking one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Ward, Pedersen, Harris and either Lindgren or Zagar. There you go....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Ward, Pedersen, Harris and either Lindgren or Zagar. There you go....... nope possibly Ward but enough with the rest,. its time to put an end to charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIE-JA Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 My money is on Grigory Laguta for a wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Who do you think is missing that is capable of finishing on the podium? Niamh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIE-JA Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Who do you think is missing that is capable of finishing on the podium? Niamh Peter Ljung? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUDGIE Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Who do you think is missing that is capable of finishing on the podium? Niamh Very sensible, the answer is no-one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) WieJa you may be right if he can convince BSI that he will be properly organised and be fully available to appear in all rounds both of the Lagutas did a lot of damage by missing Cardiff and Kings Lynn then their nephew Tarasenko missing Poole U21 meeting I have also heard that a major Russian sports channel is interested in taking all GPs and Wtc in 2012 which could help his cause My personal views is it will be Bomber,N Pederson,Lindgren and Ward Edited September 28, 2011 by flagrag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) Who do you think is missing that is capable of finishing on the podium? Niamh its hard to know if a rider would be able to finish on the podium if he never would get a chance to prove it. One thing is proven though is that both Harris and Freddie also seems to lack the ability to finish on the Podium, Lindgren have 5 podiums from 4 seasons, 1-2008,2-2009,0-2010 and 2 this year. Harris got 6 podiums from 5 seasons of which 1 is from this year. at least Nicki P is among the top scorers in the leagues but neither Lindgren or Harris are. non qual, riders that are ahead of Harris and Freddie in Sweden scoring wise are: Nicki Pedersen, Grigory Laguta, Jurica Pavlic (only 4 meetings for him), Grzegorz Walasek, Daniel Nermark, Darcy Ward, Ryan Sullivan, the something for Poland: Ryan Sullivan Grigorij Łaguta Adrian Miedziński Maciej Janowski Matej Zagar Piotr Świderski Nicki Pedersen Fredrik LIndgren Sebastian Ułamek Daniel Nermark Rune Holta Troy Batchelor Krzysztof Kasprzak Janusz Kołodziej Rafał Okoniewski Niels Kristian Iversen Martin Vaculik Bjarne Pedersen Chris Harris so take your pick, lots of good names to choose from. Edited September 28, 2011 by Ghostwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 So the riders who finished 2nd and 3rd in the last GP don't have the ability to finish on the podium! Niamh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Who do you think is missing that is capable of finishing on the podium? Niamh Why do you think that is the most important criteria?Personally i would like a rider who adds something to the series over the course of the GP season,not just once in a very blue moon like Lindgren and Harris.And to add to that we also have Pepe and Bjarne next year.Another couple of bluemooners if ever there were I do think Laguta is capable of bringing a bit more and even possibly a few podium finishes.But that isn't for me so important as adding some excitement most meetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 So the riders who finished 2nd and 3rd in the last GP don't have the ability to finish on the podium! Niamh 1 podium even a WC rider can do that. Zorro have two semi-finals from two attempts, THJ also got two semifinals from two attempts. Harris only managed 2 semi finals besides the podium. Despite riding in every GP. IMO If a a rider like THJ makes two sem-finals from two attempts as well as entering the qualification process he would be a just a good pick as Freddie and Harris. Also as i have said before if no other riders gets the chance to prove themselves in the GPs how could you know that they would not perform better then the regular charity cases? Harris got 1 podium finish this year but also 9 none podiums, Freddie got two podiums but also 8 non podiums, Nicki got 1 Victory this year which puts him ahead of FL and CH. How many Victories have Freddie got from his SGP career? Zero, How many victories have Harris achieved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Bomber has achieved 4 podiums in the last 14 GPs, that's better than 25% podium finishes. Niamh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Bomber has achieved 4 podiums in the last 14 GPs, that's better than 25% podium finishes. Niamh but this year he has only got 10% podium finishes. if you include all of last years Gp's and this years he has 5 podiums from 21 Gp's (23%) i think. but lets look at 2009 as well he had 0 podium finishes from 11 Gp's so thats 5 podiums from 32 GP's (15%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 but this year he has only got 10% podium finishes. if you include all of last years Gp's and this years he has 5 podiums from 21 Gp's (23%) i think. but lets look at 2009 as well he had 0 podium finishes from 11 Gp's so thats 5 podiums from 32 GP's (15%) that's about 1 in every 6 GPs, which given that a few riders will achieve a 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 isn't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Bomber has achieved 4 podiums in the last 14 GPs, that's better than 25% podium finishes. Niamh so why only count the last 14 gps are the others one not valid as results in anyway? it also means that 3/4 of those GPs weren't successful. Edited September 30, 2011 by Ghostwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Bomber has had ample opportunity to show what he can do and failed a lot more than he succeeded. Time to give someone else a try. Plenty to choose from who are capapble but no real Brit contender. Wuffy maybe next year if he continues his good work. The other Brits not a hope. Nicholls and Harris are our top two at present and both stink out the series more than they contribute to it. Time to accept that the SGP is beyond the Brits and make them qualify and actually get in by acheiving something rather than just a pity-pick based on the assumption that Brit viewers will only watch if there is a Brit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 that's about 1 in every 6 GPs, which given that a few riders will achieve a 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 isn't bad. it's not bad but it's not great either. the percentage could probably be less if you go back further. his form from the end of last year is where the majority of podiums come from, but he was only in the series last year after another wild card oppurtunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinders Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 so why only count the last 14 gps are the others one not valid as results in anyway? it also means that 3/4 of those GPs weren't successful. You sure you are not anti Harris with your comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Shouldn't the reigning British Speedway Champion be considered as the 'British' wildcard if one is to be considered at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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